jesse tack

Hi Grant and All,

Two main questions on starting thousands of trees from seed.

(1) how do you do it at Versaland? I've only ever seen the picture of the plywood box with Chestnuts sticking out the top.

(2) would you ever use the Jang seeder to walk a row of tree seeds in parallel with one of your existing tree rows?

I imagine tilling shallowly that small area, laying out several rows in tight succession, sowing an appropriate ground cover, and planning to sell them as nursery stock over the next 2-5 years.

If not, why not.

If maybe or yes, do you have any cover crop recommendations that would aid the tree seeds along without stunting their growth?

Thanks for all you do. Inspired and moving along in Michigan. Jesse

Hello Mark and All,

I love your book, it is one of my favorite 'permaculture' books to date!

Question about the stun method of 'sheer and total utter neglect'. When establishing, say 5000 apples, do you grow 5000 seeds from multiple varieties in a nursery bed, in the field, or elsewhere? If so, how do you prepair the beds for seeds?

If you are planting seedlings by the thousands, do you have suggested nurseries that you purchase from (other than Forest Ag )? Gather from zone 5 wilderness? How do you go about gathering that volume of plants affoardably?

What about gaining access to large quantities of seeds, any suggestions on how to get 10,000 cherry seeds of various varieties? Etc.

Equally, how do you gain access to large quantities of scion wood?

Thanks for any suggestions!

Not sure if this has been posted yet or not. From PRI-Aus, a boom-less hot water design.

http://permaculturenews.org/2012/11/23/rocket-stove-hot-water/#more-8783

We are at a PDC right now in Detroit and have been considering ways to manage the Japanese knotweed too. Some of the students found research that suggests that the accumulated toxins are in the roots and do not travel up the stem. So we took some machetes and a few folks and chopped em down. Laid right on site, chopped up into smallish pieces. We are sheet mulching it out and could further cover that with other organic matters and plant right into that. We could plant non-edible productive plants though I think edibles might be just fine.

Good luck!

oh i see, i missed this conversation: https://permies.com/t/9121/permaculture/Horticulture-United-States-Pocahontas-husp

husp=the ficticious term that Paul made up "horticulutre of the united stated of Pochahontas

cool, i like it!

whats HUSP?

July 22nd through August 4th

Costs from $300-1800.

You and yours can attend 1 day, 1 section or the whole course. In fact, you can pick 5 days to come and they can be spread out anyway you like. We are trying to meet our students needs in both time and cost commitments. If you have the inclination, contact us: 734.709.1176


This course is about to be epic! Time banking, Urban Community Center building, food forests, mushroom remediation, at the corner of MLK and Grand River in Detroit! You really cannot beat this price we are offering either. A full, certified PDC, taught by 2 excellent teachers Larry Santoyo and Keith Johnson at $300-1800 combined with Time Bank/Work Trade informal/semi formal economies. We wanted to plant the seeds of permaculture design within the city of Detroit and help co-create a beautiful template for the Urban setting. Detroit is the world's premier Post-Industrial site for demonstrating a way out of this mess we have about us.

Thank you Paul Wheaton and all the great posters at Permies.com for your great work! You are an inspiration to us all. Please share this with interested individuals in your life. Thanks again.

What other cities need Urban Community Centers based on permaculture design?

Hey Trav!

Just wanted to bump this up a bit in the feed. This course is about to be epic! Time banking, Urban Community Center building, food forests, mushroom remediation, at the corner of MLK and Grand River in Detroit! You really cannot beat this price we are offering either. A full, certified PDC, taught by 2 excellent teachers Larry Santoyo and Keith Johnson at $300 combined with Time Bank/Work Trade informal/semi formal economies. We wanted to plant the seeds of permaculture design within the city of Detroit and help co-create a beautiful template for the Urban setting. Detroit is the world's premier Post-Industrial site for demonstrating a way out of this mess we have about us.

Thank you Paul Wheaton and all the great posters at Permies.com for your great work! You are an inspiration to us all. Please share this with interested individuals in your life. Thanks again.

What other cities need Urban Community Centers based on permacultulre design?

Hey Everyone, Im Jesse from Lapeer Mi. I live currently in Ypsilanti. I have a permaculture design company called Aurora Design Solutions. We are doing an 'everybody come to the PDC' PDC in Detroit from July 22nd through Aug 4th. $300. Larry Santoyo and Keith Johnson. Anyway, we are beginning to serve Michigan communities through edible and medicinal landscape designs for community hubs like churchs, schools, hospitals, etc.

My main interests are in large scale foresting (edible and material), remediation of toxins, and abundant foods, medicines, and work. I am starting a perennial nursury at home, small scale right now. I've planted about 50 fruit trees this year in Lapeer and Ypsi. We are hosting this Design Course and hope to begin community projects next year. Exciting times for me personally and it is nice to see all these permie Michiganders!! Let's work together sometime!

Please consider coming to Detroit this summer too! Any day you want you can come, if not, I wish you good luck and happy partnerships with Nature until we meet!

http://auroradesignsolutions.com/courses/

Yes the whole day is free! I have to work sadly...but I'll be there at the movie.

Thanks for spreading the word. Detroit Permaculture is really happening this year!