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I am toying with the idea of improving the quality of the water I use for irrigation. There seems to be some evidence that
it can improve yield and improve soil structure.

Looking at the three possibilities –

1) Aerating the water source by simply pushing air and oxidating the water.
Need to see what the current  dissolved oxygen is at present and then increase the oxygen level
To see if this will have any effect.

2) Magnetised water. Running the water through a pipe encased with magnets.

3) Dose the water with Hydrogen Peroxide. Need to know the dose needed and the method of delivery.

From what I have researched so far there does seem to be a benefit of the above three methods.

I would like feedback if anyone has done this and their findings.

I will most probably be doing some simple trials with each and doing some mix and match of the three.

My logic is for a minimal expense, if the yield and the soil improve it’s a no-brainer.

Cheers
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Can I see the evidence of the process please?
 
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I quickly found these notes and I am surprised at the content
Hyper-oxygenating water increases nutrient uptake and conversion efficiency which enhances the growth and development of roots, vegetative and flowering characteristics. For instance, oxygen will oxidise organic phosphate into inorganic phosphate which can then be readily used by plants.
Fromthe-importance-of-dissolved-oxygen-in-irrigation-water/
"Dissolved oxygen (DO) in irrigation water is often completely neglected. It’s a parameter that is completely ignored and yet it can have a significant impact on plant health, root development, fertiliser & water uptake as well as yield. Even some of the most advanced farms who pay attention to just about every parameter which influences plant growth and yield completely ignore water DO requirements.
The typical origins of water used on crops is rainwater - high in O2"

"Insufficient water DO can lead to other problems as well.
For instance Nematodes prefer oxygen poor soils and irrigating plants with water poor in DO will allow them to come near the surface where they can easily damage plant roots."
From manetising irrigation water
". The results indicated that irrigation with magnetised water and then adding fertiliser (MWF) had a positive significant effect on the water
and soil properties, the tuber engineering parameters improved and the potato productivity increased by 40.5% higher than the NM method.
The fertigation unit has to be installed after the magnetic device because the direct magnetisation of the water with the fertilisers contributes to the cracking and increases the solubility of the fertilisers that may lead to the possibility of leaching some of them away from the roots, which implies losing some of them and, therefore, decreasing the effectiveness or fertigation"
 
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I will relate my experience with “magnetized” water.  In short, it doesn’t work.  I bought the magnets, installed them in my in-laws home which has terribly hard water.  But the water never changed and the scale buildup never diminished.  I wished it worked, but it was only a wish and I don’t believe it anymore.
 
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I can see potential value in aeration, perhaps encouraging plant-friendly aerobic organisms and adding ions in a way that mimics rainstorms. I can't speak with certainty as to the specific mechanisms though.

Magnets and water? Pure sci-fi as far as I can see.

Peroxide injection is used in wells where there are specific organisms that cause problems. The volumes that would be required for irrigation seem prohibitively expensive.
 
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Anthony said, "I am toying with the idea of improving the quality of the water I use for irrigation.



I can relate to wanting to improve the quality of water used to water the plants.

My water is very alkaline so every time I water the plants, I am adding more alkaline to my soil.

What I would like to suggest is what I want to do.

Make compost tea.

Here are some threads that might be of interest to you or others:

https://permies.com/t/158434/composting/Great-site-compost-tea

https://permies.com/t/164511/Soil-Web

https://permies.com/t/174352/lazy-approach-improving-soil
 
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Hi Anthony,
I know your question was specific to water, but don't neglect all the other factors that can increase soil health. Increasing the fungal and bacterial content of the soil will increase nutrient availability. Increasing the organic content can provide food for said microbes as well as increase the water holding capacity so the water stays for longer by the plants (without drowning them), and doesn't just drain down to the aquifer. Adding compost can help with all that. A kind of mulch would also help. I don't know your scale, but these things can help get the same result you are looking for (healthier soil and more nutrient availability) while using the water that is already there.
 
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Somewhere years ago I remember reading about using the drip water from ac units on house plants.  Apparently this water was so low in oxygen it sometimes killed the plant.  The remedy recommended was pouring the water back and forth between a couple of buckets before using.
 
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