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Does anyone know where you can get seeds for this plant?

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I did some looking around. I found this site: http://www.heirloomseedswap.com/item/955
 
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Thanks Steve: My search for them, had also led me to that site, but I couldn't find the actual listing. Your post led me right there, and I have sent an inquiry.

Thanks again!
 
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I hope you are able to get a hold of some seeds. It might be neat to save seeds from it to share next year.
 
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Have them on hold. The seller has a good selection of edibles though most of them are for warmer climes. Another was the finger millet, which we will try in pots just to get seed.

Will let you know how it goes, and yes we will save seed, and if things work out you are most welcome to any seed we come up with.
 
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Thank you, that is very kind of you. Send me a PM so we can keep in touch.
 
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Got them to germinate. It took a 30 day stratify in wet vermiculite. I tried a couple of other approaches and nothing else worked.

Kind of flying blind now. I found little bit more info here: http://www.eattheweeds.com/spinach-vine/

Looks pretty amazing,
 
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I bought it as a plant two years ago, and it self-seeded last year. Is this the same plant here, Basella alba?

Basella alba

I know it as Malabar Spinach. Its so much easier when people bother to learn the proper nomenclature.

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No, we grow Malabar Spinach as well, and the seed is readily available. I ended up getting it through Seedsavers from a man in Poland.

http://www.eattheweeds.com/spinach-vine/

 
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They look very similar, from what I can tell. I have the rubra subspecies, with the red/purple vines. What is the scientific nomenclature? Are you talking about Hablitzia tamnoides? I can't find much more about it. Though considering the time required for germination, it would have to be something special for me to cultivate it here. Where is it from?

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yes it is hablitzia. 4 week cold stratify is required. As noted, seeds were from Poland.

Two articles:

http://www.utne.com/Environment/In-Search-of-the-Elusive-Caucasian-Spinach.aspx

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=626951727318592&set=a.626951713985260.1073741829.531746770172422&type=3&theater

 
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I see. Thank you. I'd love some detailed nutritional information on it. Please post it if you find any.

It seems i misunderstood the germination requirements. Sounds like if you let it go to seed or seed in the fall, it should do fine on its own, no?

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It's a perennial in very cold climates. You need to dig a little in the following blog but there is some good info and pictures.

http://alanbishop.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=banter&action=print&thread=2246

Cannot find any nutritional information.

 
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A little more:

http://www.pfaf.org/user/ViewThreadDtls.aspx?idthread=113&idforum=17&name=Ronny%20S
 
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OK, we got 10 plants from the seeds we planted. We wasted some seeds because we didn't stratify them, and we have some left over. It's interesting to watch those in the ground grow. The original vine has grown about 2 feet and it looks like it is ready to flower. At the same time there is a lot of new growth at the base of the plant. Not as prolific as New Zealand or Malabar but they are not perennial. Looks like we should be able to get plenty of seed.
 
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Ed Waters wrote:OK, we got 10 plants from the seeds we planted. We wasted some seeds because we didn't stratify them, and we have some left over. It's interesting to watch those in the ground grow. The original vine has grown about 2 feet and it looks like it is ready to flower. At the same time there is a lot of new growth at the base of the plant. Not as prolific as New Zealand or Malabar but they are not perennial. Looks like we should be able to get plenty of seed.


How are they doing? Did you like them?
 
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Hi,

I thought I had found Caucasian spinach seeds, but I've just opened the package, and they look too much like "standard" spinach seeds.
Does anyone have a good picture of Hablitzia seeds?

Thanks in advance.
 
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