• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Linning the outside of the stove with soap stone?

 
Posts: 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Has anyone thought of or tried making holders that would hold soap stone slabs( or fie bricks ) on the outside of the drum ? So the when the drum heats up the stones would store heat for maybe a longer heating time per load?
Just a thought ,
John
 
pollinator
Posts: 4154
Location: Northern New York Zone4-5 the OUTER 'RONDACs percip 36''
67
hugelkultur fungi books wofati solar woodworking
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
John Moran : Yes, Both bricks and several kinds of rocks have been successfully applied to the outside of the drum! It is best left to a 2nd Rocket Mass Heater R.M.H.Build,
or for a retro-fit onto an existing R.M.H., as would any attempt to 'Cob' more than 1/2 way up a barrel, always remembering that the total 'depth' of the Heat Riser should
always be 3Xs the 'depth' of the feed tube !

The reason that soapstone is often preferred and a premium is paid for soapstone, is that it expands with heat only slightly, and also contracts only a little while cooling !
Therefor it does not 'Creep' enough to break a mechanical bond with what ever is used to make-up the outer shell of the R.M.H..Any failure here would result from the
amount of the expansion of the metal skin of the drums used on the outside of the R.M.H.! It is also slightly more than medium dense, and as such absorbs more heat,
and then radiates the heat out into its environment more efficiently than most other stone. It is for these combined characteristics that soapstone commands a premium
price on the open market !( It often 'looks' pretty too !)

Within the monolithic construction of the Thermal Mass Bench any common field stone will integrate well with the Cob, having said that there is a place that I travel to once
a week, that is generally up hill from my home and I generally can gather 20- 50 #s of rust red rocks of high Iron content which I transport home to add to a pile next to
my soft orange 'Common Brick' Pile! I am stock piling for future builds! I also have my Eye out for damaged/discarded Jo`tol type stoves with soapstone sides. Any soapstone,
or other rocks cleanly cleaved along fracture lines will be saved for Future facing stones ! I hope this helps and is timely, For the Good of the Craft, and all things Permies !

Think like Fire, Flow like a Gas, Don't be the Marshmallow! As always, your questions and comments are solicited and Welcome PYRO - Logically Big AL !
 
gardener
Posts: 3471
Location: Southern alps, on the French side of the french /italian border 5000ft elevation
194
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Many things have been done along that way.

I'm trying to get a friend to make me a square barrel, onto which i could pile bricks, concrete pavers or whatever.

There's an ancient soapstone quary near by me. But the guys from the local geological society don't want to tell me where!

Look at brick latice pictures in google pics. I like the looks of that.
 
allen lumley
pollinator
Posts: 4154
Location: Northern New York Zone4-5 the OUTER 'RONDACs percip 36''
67
hugelkultur fungi books wofati solar woodworking
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Satamax : Go see the local historian and ask about a stone one of your ancestors may have worked in ! They all love to talk and will probably give you lots of leads !
Good luck ! Big AL
 
I agree. Here's the link: https://woodheat.net
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic