Thank you everyone for your comments and helpful advice. My apologies for the delay in responding. We got back to the land today. They are apple trees, not sure which type at the moment. (The land is in france, very close to the pyrenees, so a varied but good climate with a lot of rain). They have had about 4 years of neglect, and are choked. I understand the brambles were strimmed at ground level in May or June this year, so I found quite a lot of it easy to pull out from the ground working up. I used hand tools. There will have to be a phase two involving a ladder! I don't think we will be able to do goats or pigs at this stage, maybe in the future. Its in quite a shady area, if that has any implication beyond the obvious Id be interested to hear views. Bw