Maude Harold

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In the heat I'm finding I need to use up the grain within a few days. In the winter is seems to slow ferment indefinitely. If it sits in poor conditions it will grow mold and stinky ecoli bacteria. VERY bad for fowl. iWhen I add things like scratch  or corn to the spent grains they get up fermenting quickly. The trick is getting the right mix of nutrient, I'm not sure I've figured it out though I do try to calculate it. Im not sure I've really figured out how to quantify the spent grain, there are several variables to it nutritionally (how wet, how efficient the mash was, how much protein was in the grains to begin with.) One cool thing about spent grains is not only are they fermenting, they were presprouted before malting.


So far when it starts to go bad I am adding it to the compost pile, which has been rocking the compost pile, it's awesome. Still, not the best use since I am paying for feed. I'm going to try two new things to try to use up more of it for the ducks directly.

1. I'm going to try using my extra eggs and some scratch grain with the spent grain and yeast to make baked flock blocks that I will freeze. Maybe even if they don't like them I can sell these to chicken people to offset feed. I don't think there are regulations around here about doing that..

2. I'm going to try adding a deep compost pit to each paddock, I think I could use this as an anchor point to help revitalize each paddock while also persevering grain for the ducks. Sort of like for pile chickens, but due to the harsh climate I'kk use the earth insulation, maybe even add some strawbales on it. I'm thinking Ill dig at least 4'x4' square hole 3' deep, adding not moldy grain and then recovering with dirt and mulch. I'll start the next couple paddocks at the same time so we can see if there is an ideal incubation time to break into this for the ducks. I'm interested to see what insect activity it brings at which stage. I do have 3 chickens that follow the duck flock, scratching their caked poop areas. It might make sense to incorporate them directly w/ the compost style feeding.

I feel like some sort of insect farm is a no brainer..but I'm embarrassed to admit how many worm farms I've killed. lol. I can dig you piles of worms from my compost but a worm bin lasts me a couple of months.  

I'm not sure how to quantify if these things are working, I have so many ducks (41) in so many different stages of growth in a mixed flock. I've considered dividing the flock into my "keepers" and those that are being raised for slaughter or are up for sale. I've also considered dividing the muscovy and anconas, though there are some things I like about having them together.  
7 years ago
have you checked out the women in ag program for washington? I know some women that have been involved in the program for a long time and also ranch/farm in eastern dryland WA.
7 years ago
I have access to a nearly endless supply of tons of spent grain and gallons of 'dumped yeast' from my brewer husband. I have read quite a bit about feeding it to pigs and chickens, but I need to figure out how to best use it for my egg ducks and muscovy.

I have tried offering it to them as a separate  free feed supplement, I've mixed in with flock pellets, and I've mixed it with corn. The corn seemed to go the best, oddly they ate a greater portion of the spent grain than the 20% mix I intended because they usually leave some corn in the feeder. I worry about this since I'm trying to raise them efficiently for meat. The birds free range in their paddocks 24/7 so they do have good access to supplemental forage. They look healthy but I have seen them fatter.

some of my limitations:
harsh climate, this year to date ranged from -10 to 110F
cash poor

opportunities:
I have a few acre pasture, some of it has been divided into a shift paddock system for the ducks but there is a ton to work with.
lots of extra eggs
access to poultry offal in large quantity



some ideas that we have bounced around were

pile/compost style feeding like chickens
meal worms
bsf
red worms
making flock blocks (maybe they'd like that more?)
trying other protein/carb additions
some sort of silage/fermenting thing
feed to fish or some aquatic thing and then feed them to the ducks?


What ideas do you have or what have you observed? What other animals could I incorporate to use up the grain?
7 years ago