Hi Sam , I'm happy to see this thread is still going . I'm inspired to try some Goji berries here after reading your posts . we are finally producing fruit ,and I had lost interest after so many failed attempt's . I am thankful my wife didn't give up . apricot,fig ,pomegranate ,grapes, mulberry , peaches , asparagus ,blackberry ,and pistachios have all survived to produce fruit except pistachios ,they are only 3 years old now . I will be attempting cutting from a pear in spring from my sister's house, it has the most sweetest juiciest fruit . now I need to come up with other solutions for the critter's who took alot more than their share . Thank's Sam ....happy holiday's