Orchardist is the nomenclature you have to use to qualify for ag acknowledgement without mondo mono cultural fields.
You gotta be very careful about sounding like a regular person, wowing them with permaculture may make you appear sketch in your district.
Basically they need to equate money to what your doing so your food forest is a simple mix of orchard growing of fruit tree's mixed with long term timber.
Those two categories don't have any high scrutiny like talking about meat or consumables, even bee's drag you into pasteurization standards.
You escape having to produce instant visuals or financials because of the long term investment everybody understand comes with trees, in the mean time you sell free range eggs if that's legal as pest control and weed management.
It's just about finding something your already doing that qualifies you as engaging in standard farming of one kind or another, a hatchery is still farming. After that just close off everything else your truly doing as experimental, nobody can say your a flake these days for making compost for your business.
I'm glad the subject of % came up while reading down this thread and thanks to dale I can skip the car suggestion. If your looking to crush them on a massive scale put them in between to sheets of corrugated metal and drive over that so it's faster and nobody gets any cuzz there under the metal.
This topic is in Bill Mollison's original 1983 pdc recordings. The answer is to sprout them, that's when chickens naturally tackle them in the spring for a limited period. What's more the assimilable protein goes up as well as the tannins begin to convert.
I understand the logic when you consider how many wild ducks are subject to hunters who are more into shooting with a drunk that providing food to survive.
I would discourage from a inputs vs output's point of view, your going to be on your own with undomesticated ducks and breeding for meat or eggs can come with downsides you can't see ahead.
There's enough to do which lines of ducks that have evolved alongside man for mutual benefit that I wouldn't considered it a standard beginning for the uninitiated.
My muscovies are a perfect example of a breed making a deal with man that has allowed it to range the globe vs it's natural climate of southern america.
I run around in all directions for them all year round, in exchange I can have 8 pounds of meat in 12 weeks. I couldn't even consider the dress out weight of a wild duck feeding any homesteading needs without having to kill allot of wild ducks.
I can't beat Abe's economics for an above ground cistern; but if you need modern,modular, stack able, and portable water storage.
I use allot of ICB tote tanks, the same ones you see in all those aquaponics videos. Where I live they cost 100 bux to store 250 gallons.
$1500 would only get you 3750 gallons, but that's if you need that much and want to spend that much.
Obviously we could build a hell of a pond or allot of swales for that money, but were not always in a position to do the ultimate in efficiency due to life circumstances.
I rent, so to fence bear's from 1 side of an acre cost me $2500 in that construction portable fencing, I can pull the steaks out and walk away with my entire investment but it was a hell of allot to pay to go 200 feet.
whoa thats quite the project you got going on, I've never herd of icf houses.
I'm from the monolithic dome camp, but I think I ended up there cuzz it's all i can mentally handle building myself with no construction background.
Poo on the porch... #1 way to stop it is do not come out of that door when you feed them.
We long ago through it was nasty but cute, next year the big male would be coming through our front door when we let the dogs out.
By 4pm I can have 30 ducks on my porch crapping it up. They know food comes out of this door, and it usually comes around 4 so if you don't feel like eating just sit there from 2-6 and something will surely happen.
I try producing false alarms like coming out the door and putting a handful of grain back into the yard for them to chase.
In the bad ol days we got allot of poop on baby gates n such but now there pretty good and have learned to stay within eyesight of the door but not at the door. I go back n forth so often to throw them off and then go another way out the house to feed them.
It's not a full solution like putting a screen door on your porch, but it's our patterns that they exploit so shake it up so they don't have a routine they run on you.
why does this make my bear problems seem like a kitty cat is pooing in my garden problems.
My heart goes out to you cuzz you really don't want to kill a puma, but when it comes to getting it's lunch your looking at an assassin.
Is portable electric fence paddock shifts possible for you? It might help your guardian animals as well in not getting hauled off to the forest.
With Taro it's more of a how long you wait is how much you get, let a taro go for 18 months in a good spot with a mild winter and your going to need a wheel barrel.
If you want a quick harvest like those baby taro you see in the market then you get very little. For instance leaf taro doesn't have it's roots harvested and is more of a multiple cut food.
It's wet and cold 70% of the year here so i mainly sprout the baby taro's and if we get a perfect summer I get slightly larger baby taro, but my planting locations havn't been the smartest either so usualy i just get leaves.
If you guys are hot for solumis try sun calc. http://suncalc.net There all build off working with google maps, the main difference with sun calc is you can scrub the position of the sun back and ford to any time of day.
I absolutely could not understand how the "vertical sun" of the lower tropics works in relation to planting orientation for tall and skinny or fat n short plants.
It wasn't until i watched the sun going across the sky back and forth many times before I could clearly see it's behavior as a light source.
Hey um just for your information, in case you ever come across someone who may be in this situation some day.
Right now im struggling trying to find quack grass root for tea, it's one of the 3 key ingredients in treating bladder stones and infections in dogs and humans.
One place has the tea and it's some swank organic shop 3 cities away, I dug up all the different long grasses I could find but no match.
We've got to get her to dissolve and pass these stones or the only alternative is surgery. I watched the surgery and im not a fan of having my lady's bladder reamed out with a tea spoon.
Everything has a purpose, even if it's on the other side of the country or globe where mountain water gives people high uric ph.
Now someone help me find people who need creeping buttercups by the barrels.
Do you have any natural predators you can cycle over them before and after a gardening cycle? Like put it a cover crop to draw them out then put chickens onto the orange peels and sprouts full of slaters?
I have both slaters and slugs at the same time, they both come surging out of the woody mulch to kill the top and bottom of my plants. Chickens scratch them up and out, my ducks only dig them up in the wet season.
If you have lizards then there may be much better alternatives available to you, but I only know the blue tongue eats slugs, pill bugs is more of a digging affair.
going to have to give a bump to lacto fermented blackberry, It makes a spread that gives you a head buzz from the bubbles. I take it by how fizzy it get's it would go to alcohol easy and on to vinegar if things are right.
Im so happy with the pineapple vinegar that if anything goes alcoholic on me I just start rooting for exotic vinegar.
I havn't had a cable plugged into my tv for over 7 years, personally I found it presented quite a significant social change for the better.
Yes you'll live a life where you don't know what people are talking about, I tell people I don't live my life choking down current affairs to show I'm on top of things trivial that don't effect how we live our lives day to day.
I'll say, does some celebrity's new boob job help the taste of the dam coffee in the machine at work? Cuzz if it doesn't i'll stick to being the top predator of the office coffee grounds for my garden instead.
The joy and laughter you can bring socially just by the humor you give to being a representation of what life can be like unplugged from the forced stream of media. The other people begin to recognize your strangeness to them, is also what makes your social presentations always interesting.
I watch movies of my choosing, I don't choose from what is presented to watch. Yes I'll shout out, did anyone see star wars I just watched it this weekend and it's pretty good, "yes more laughter", but the bottom line is often you end up being the one who brings up un-accessed memories in people they have long forgotten.
When I talk about my weekend of not having any plans but a list of farm things a mile high; somebody might say wow your life reminds me of my grandparents who use to live on a farm, I use to eat rabbit when I was a kid.
You still can read the news, you just don't stream the news, you still watch things, but you have self directed education. If my daughter wants to go on a 2 day tv binge, she can do it in front of commercial free documentary after documentary. When people hear that kind of talk, they shut up and start reconsidering the choices there making in their lives, and you living the way you are fosters that.
You do not have to be socially banished, but can socially thrive as a unique and new experience for other people socially. That makes you one of a kind.
Why can't you just build a culvert bridge? They have been around forever.
Partially dig in a large enough pipe to take 1.5 times your maximum water capacity and fill in over it so you can drive across.
I could go on and on about the variations to the structure, I'm a fan of gabion retaining walls. Whether you go level across or have a bulging bridge is your fancy.
Just look around any suburb, every stormdrain/ditch goes right into a road and out the other end through culverts.
The hemispherical shape doesn't crush easy at all, regardless of if it's plastic, metal or cement pipe.
I got a question, how can I nutritionally reduce the need to clean my dogs anal glands. The two small dogs we can do but to hold down, but the old man livestock Pyrenees is allot of work and he's too old to drag his bum, to top it off he's not ours but we feed him because he protects our property as part of his territory. His owner wont take him to a vet and he's only alive because we feed him secretly because he's fed on gruel dog food.
This is about the only question I haven't been able to answer myself via research.
I have one of those powder shooter things, i bought it years ago then packed it away because I have never had a use for it other than being a waste of my money.
BUT 3 years later it finaly came into serious use as aphids where killing 75% of my elderberry, if I had known sooner i wouldn't of lost so much of the tree.
I essentially blew diatomaceous earth on the undersides of all tree's being effective, It tries them out, disrupts the ants, isn't a poison and washes off when i want it to.
I don't like things that annihilate, and i'm not a fan of spraying soap on living things in any lethal dose for an insect.
It works because it's matting and tends to catch on the leaves or fall to the lower garden, I like to do it when I see 3-5 days before rain.
What sad is how many times i just threw it in the air before even considering putting it in front of a hand crank fan.
watercrest is what I grow in a tube under the gutter downspout, it's way more pungent and nutrient dense and it continues into the winter. I also want to try feeding them typher latifolia "catails. I know we can eat the shoots but Im wonder if the micro ruminant can chomp through the full grass without gas.
Yeah they can get stung in their feet and caruncle, both take a fair bit to get the stinger in and out so limping for a few days would be natural. If I was getting stepped on our pecked at, I can't see a reason why not to go suicide stinger.
I couldn't find anything on the internet, the closest was feeding rice straw to ruminants. I can conceive of mushroom waste as silage without the bacteria, but I don't see it as a whole enough food. There is good hay and bad hay, I don't see it as great silage but a reasonable binding and bulking agent.
If I had some I would definitely like to try it, rabbits are mini ruminants there just not as grand on eating gruel forage perpetually without getting ill.
You would have to dry it or drain it a bit, as you would be feeding it out by the bucket to each rabbit. Serving it wet will make things go yucky before they can eat it all. I can throw in a 6 foot sun choke plant and its gone by morning.
I'll go grab some out my pond and try it on them, I've never been able to grow enough to satisfy the ducks. If they get loose and hop in a pond, 4 or 5 can kill off the duckweed in 10 mins.
But I think if you heap it up onto a mesh and spread it out, it will drain enough to behave like fresh green pickings. I'm dying to do it with azolla but our weather grows too little too late, n like I said the ducks.
That article hit the nail on the head, the bacteria that develop on decomposing grounds are extra goodies I can multiply in my tea. I want more than just the npk of things, npk alone is not what I call fertilizer. Those microbes that turn unavailable material into available material is how I get fertilizer out of what's already innate within my soil structure. There's plenty of food out there it's just locked up in one form or another, I don't even want to go into the medicinal aspects of what's being applied to plants or I will be avalanched by evidence I should get off this computer and go jam some comfrey n such in the garbage bag n start cooking.
Yep I'm feeling good to go now, I recommend us all checking out the article as it may unlock another dimension of interest and evidence that in our communities there's an abundant return of surplus that we must prevent from becoming a pollutant. As permies we love free stuff, and turning garbage into gold is our Midas touch.
So I'm looking at this weeks coffee ground haul from work and I see 5 gallons, which is the exact amount of worm castings or compost I use in my tea brewer.
I've already broadcast it everywhere and it's boring in it's availability to plants, as I mainly feed it to the mulch to bring the worms higher. If I "worked it into the soil" as all the websites say, I wouldn't have any skin on my hands left by the time I was done.
What I don't know is how the nutrients remnant in the almost carbon like structure are stored or released, so I fail to be able to articulate the reason why I should be able to displace the nutrients into the water.
I know in my setup bacteria is dislodged by aerated force against the dome surface that clamps to the bag, but really i don't believe you can beat atomic structures apart.
Plants work with a myriad of collaborators with innate abilities of there own to augment elements and pass them downstream.
What seems to contradict that clear rational is the particle size and clear mutations of the base bean, from roast, to grind, to brew, to sit in a bag hot and start to go fungi.
I get this intuition it's already carrying the self digestive elements within it's carbon architecture to be separable like the carbon found attached to the nutrients and bacteria in compost.
It's ability to provide the ignition in composting verifies it's catalytic content, which is what where after in many ways from composting and castings.
I feel like there's a third stage before brewing, and I don't know why I feel like comfrey, yarrow, lucerne, kelp, lacto bacillus and molasses are involved.
Its borderline anaerobic if it wasn't form the crumb structure of the coffee mixed with those wet elements, the maximum I want it to go is 3 days in a garbage bag.
Like when you forget the vegetable scraps behind the door and they are steamy when you find them. Active microbe material basically, that will multiply in the aerated water and break down the elements in the grounds to soluble levels all the way through the process.
The amount of rabbits you would need would be inhumane, they need air and unless you heat that too it's going to be cold. The insulation is good but the circulation is wonky, but if you had a solar heater situation I could see 10 having an effect. There not chickens they burn way hotter, but with insulation and a daytime boost of solar heated fresh air... I think 60-70 is reasonable to expect. I don't like hanging cages but that's my affair, I think there practical and efficient for the human. Litter expansion is where things tilt to the uh oh, and ammonia management becomes critical in such a tight space. So ventilation overrides the sprouts and the temperature drops.
Rabbits overwintering in the greenhouse can be better for both and if you include the worms to manage the poo into the structure, you have enough rich soil to feed the rabbits, the sprouts and additional material for planting out. But that's a different project, I think you can do it if you have some solar ventilation and temperature moderation with the heater. I think I failed to ask if there was natural light or not? Rabbits heat in more of a bubble style, they insulate themselves in, where poultry dry themselves by radiating outwards while producing heat.
Best of luck, and when Im thinking rabbits I'm thinking a 10+ pound rabbits like my giant chinchillas, I don't have any authority on smaller rabbits.
Round pole raised beds? I don't think i could come up with enough soil to fill the beds with all that pine, but radiatta is a beast so you have to do what you have to do. What kind of equipment are you looking to do the job with? anyone can chop a tree down but how do you move it and how much are you moving. Any use for large logs i've had can't touch the scale your working with. Id say go for hugelkulture but that's an excavator type project to put that much wood that deep underground and in controlled amounts, tis no hand job. Do you have anymore details of what resources you have in abundance? I don't care to just spout off at the mouth of what you should do, if i can suggest something viable based on your details I'd feel like i could be a better help. It's a matter of scale, 100mm i could chop it all down with a brush cutter, 300 mm would take me allot longer with a chainsaw. A dozer laugh's at all of it, but that's not exactly creative, efficient, or dynamic.
sunchokes you don't attempt to dig until first forst, especially if your in a short season. They often don't set tubers big enough to eat when strugling but the ropes you find between the tubers often sprout if they close enough to the surface. I grew 10 last year and found about 15 tubers and thought i over harvested, this year 20 grew from those rhizomes i reburied. They will overwinter even in iceland, i found when they came up naturally they grew allot better than when i stuck em in the ground late in the season. I put the bed where i had them under 8 inches of straw and i thought i killed it. They came up later than i thought but have now reached 12 feet without falling over. If your plants arn't that big leave them for a better start next year. digging around in a low yielding bed only gives rize to distrubed baby tubers. I've only gotten them to flower once last year and is was only 2 of twenty, they tend to need a true long season to flower when they prefer which is in sep/oct/
I topped my plants this year to see how extra side shooting effects tubers and flowering, but really i just wanted it to grow more green for the ducks and rabbits without falling over.
how much cardboard are you talking and do you expect to ever remove the cardboard? cuzz the answer is unfortunately no. I have buttercups from 1 inch to 3 feet tall, cardboard doesn't stand a chance against the dormant rhizomes and generations of seed.
What does work but it's no instant gratification is solarizing the plants and soil with 1 summer under black plastic. Reveal in the fall to start germination of the seeds then cover for 1 winter, the next year you will have gotten ridden of 95% of it. Rodents will have a burrow fest under the waterlogged soil and in the spring you can create the type of garden or broad scale planting that's appropriate to your local conditions.
I had to get bees because I can't harvest enough of it for the ducks to make a dent in an acre, it makes good mulch or compost fodder if you can mow it down and collect it mechanically but it's not worth it by hand. What I've found more effective is to cardboard it; cut chunks of it out and replace with compost and plant with potatoes. I noticed one year there was an empty spot in the buttercup coverage and when I checked it, potatoes planted from years ago had regrown multiple times in the same spot. The organic matter potatoes leave behind displaces the rhizomes which only dominate in unfavorable conditions. Where I had black plastic I planted flax and potatoes bare soil and just walked away. In the next few weeks i'll start sowing peas and radishes into the die down, the key is not to harvest the potatoes but let them bulge the earth and then bring in the rodent highways that destroy the rhizome matte over the winter. They never get all the potatoes and the next year the potatoes return to build and dominate the soil. The radish and peas I want for there greens I leave as much roots in place as I can during a soil reconstitution phase. Buttercups really identify an oxygen problem in your soil, that plant doesn't drown.
Did someone say rabbit heads.
Ok so heres what you do, once finished you will have second guesses about feeding it to the dogs because it smells so good.
Collect all your heads in the freezer i usualy wait till I have 10 to 20, stick em in a pressure cooking and let er rip for about an hour at 15psi. I usualy throw in whatever else fits, usually sweet potato and other hour pressure cook items like carrots n dried herbs.
Once done you'l have a nice furry grey mass of jaw meats, n brain meats, n lots of what was once bone but now looks like cartilage. Put em in the food processor if you've got a decent one and let it blend for a minute. The teeth and everything become homoginized and then you can spoon it out onto wax paper and freeze it for doggy meals. I usualy clip off and dry the ears separately for dog chips, but there no pigs ear so they go pretty fast.
Dogs go insane for this, and if you saved the offal you'll have even more grey misc to feed out. I gave some to two dogs who were visiting that have lived a long life of kibble and they knew right away what was up.
If you have a bigger dog I suppose you could skip the food processor and just hand out a soft head a day defrosted, but I dunno how you'd freeze it without it becoming a mass hence why i blend up n spoon off. Plus i can sneak loads of things the dogs wouldn't eat if they could isolate it like fennugreek n blackberry leaves.
i do, just about every water harvesting system has a formula. im on the bus atm but ill dig it out of brad langcasters rainwatef harvesting book when i get home. try his book name plus the word formulas maybe you can find it on the net in the meantime
that way of making apple cider vinegar would probably cost 100 dollars a gallon and heal nobody to any larger extent. I loved the steps and was like wow if you can make it through all those stages without screwing up via neglect, you get to taste your way to your medicine or poison.
I'm not bashing the method, I know the author can do it and that's amazing but how do i feed my family and animals this winter with a critical health resource. I can't spend 6 weeks leaving it up to serendipity and we could all get sick. Inoculating the new batch with a old batch is as apart of human fermenting culture in all it's subcultures.
That guy is most likely building new and unique generations of bacteria in the apple cider vinegar medium that no one could duplicated. Just changing the fly's that end up in the jug introduces all sorts of new interactions. Fermenting "thumbs up" "Permaculture appropriate technology" thumbs down.
I would like to try it thow, I can't seem to ever successfully cultivate mushrooms by intention but as soon as I dump a slimy moldy decaying lump of carbon material anywhere I get loads of mushrooms. So there's a good chance if I follow the instructions poorly and pay no attention it will work just fine.
Lisa if you must go wild style and try to make vinegar with damaged apples n water, please at least do yourself the favor of adding apple cider vinegar mother to help the process get going. One of the issues your going to have is surface area via the chop method, and that really makes it hard to establish a medium for the correct agents to dominate the brew. By adding a cup of braggs or any other form of organic acv you at least arn't waiting around for vinegar flies to impregnate your mass with the correct bacteria. No vinegar fly no bacteria, no surface area = other iggy guys in the water.
Best of luck, even a blender with water to make a slurry is better than chop and fill when were talking open air fermenting.
im a champion of the giant chinchilla, there a rare heritage breed, fast forage conversion, great temperment. i dont think you can go wrong, its a matter of what factors appeal to you, helping save an endangered breed ranks higher than abosolute efficiency for me. obviously the breeder matters, you might find a great new zealand but its only great if you feed them pellets. My rabbits are bred to convert ferns and blackberry vine into rabbit meat, if you feed them store pellets they destroy the feed tray in anger.
if you go to youtube and search for swale digging click the fourth link to a buncha people chopping at sod. At least on my youtube if you look to the links on your right the top link has allot on harvesting water the permaculture way.
the most acurate mechanical way is an excavator rental with a tilt wrist bucket, next is a plain excavator, after that a bulldozer and lastly a backhoe. It's not that it can't be done with a tractor, it's just your going to take longer, be less accurate and more likely to mix topsoil with subsoil.
You can rent an excavator guy all you have to do is discuss and stress that it's an uncompacted contour berm and he should know what your talking about n start asking why is it uncompacted if it's a contour berm. A trencher is way too narrow and your going to have to chase the dirt, I'm not sure what clips geoff lawton has online for swales but if you'd like i could find some links to that and dam building with geoff just so you can see how the machine works the land when its being built.
I dust my tree's with diatomaceous earth anytime I get a 3-5 day dry hotspell, the aphids dehydrate and die along with other under leaf parasites. The ants get throw for a loop which helps break the aphid consentration efforts, if they didn't cluster the aphids it wouldn't murder the tips like they do. Plus the ants deter ladybug larvae from eating the aphids. I use a hand cranked blower to get a fine cloud everywhere, but you can just throw it.
I have that plant and have been trying to spread it like mad as the ducks and rabbits tare into it so i'm always running out, I'm glad to know i can save the seeds green so I can get them in the ground and sprouted this season. Do you know if drying them damages the ripening if it's too fast like a dehydrator. I can dry cold right now and it takes 5-7 days or dry hot and it would be done overnight. I'd probably plant them in bands butted up against alfalfa, I'm a fight invasive with invasive type, japanese knotweed makes great shade vegetation in the duck pen and the pen is bordered by a cedar hedgerow. arch angel mint fights buttercups while feeding the rabbits and the buttercups feed the bees and ducks in spring. Alone I would probably go crazy but with everyone balanced with each other I probably cultivate more weeds than plants.
nitrogen deficiency is yellowing of the leaves, iron is yellowing of the leaves with green veins. The brown spots are not related.
Where i live nobody seems to know what im talking about when I say ferrous sulfate, so I had to resort to grinding up iron vitamin tablets and dissolving them with vinegar before mixing with allot of water. It saved my raspberry's twice and I did my fruit trees before they had a chance to show signs.
grinding up the iron tablet is something you can do tonight, try tomorrow and thee the results in 3 days, if you can get the sulfate that would be great and need less reapplication.
Is this your survey? i did it while i was on the train so i didn't splurge on the essay portion. What I'd probably like but I dont think it's possible to address is expandable essays for highly agree or disagree. When it asked 7 questions on has permaculture greatly changed your life and I answer Hell yes 7 times, i'm a pretty good candidate for a lemme explain how awesome it's made things. I think i screwed up and chose yes to farmer but then the questions where out of my league and I couldn't roll back so I had to put in 0 for income, 0 for products n so on. I think most homesteaders think their farming when life goes beyond lettuce but they may not qualify as a professional farmer even though they manage more diversity.