wow that's a great site! that makes it easy to find plants for different uses.

I may be too new to the permie scene though because I have no idea how to identify these plants or where I can find them.

I plugged in nitrogen fixer with full shade and thats a shrub and this is what it came up with.

http://pfaf.org/user/DatabaseSearhResult.aspx

thanks been reading for a while now and had a question that I didn't see any answers to.

ya there's a good 5 feet from the fence that remains shaded all day long i'm not worried about the trees so much as what will need to be grown beneath around the trees as part of the guild.

I want to create a permaculture food forest in my backyard but i'm just wondering what the impact of a wooden fence in the backyard has on it. Very little light can get through so how does this impact growing near the fence?