David Livingston ... merci beaucoup for sharing links about MarmiteNorvegienne. I've looked at the links and photos.
I see you live in Angers, France. My older sisters do also. I've lived in France twice in my life, and had two more visits since then. I miss the foods and lifestyle. It's so different from the states. It's nice to see such interests as this wonderbox cooker in France.
Seriously... after watching the video posted by Jennifer Herod, I watched a few more videos from the same gals. I am impressed and want to make this 'slow cooker' wonderbox.
When I saw "hay box" it made me think of the way I've kept my chickens' water from freezing during recent arctic freezes. I made a 3" thick nest of hay (straw) in a large steel mixing bowl and settled an old copperbottom One gallon pot in that nest. I fill it with very warm water in the morning and it stays liquid all day even at 8F degrees. By the end of the day, it would develop a thin ice layer but the hens had no problem pecking that to get their drinks.
So I might fill my wonderbox with straw instead of styrofoam beads. Maybe someone already mentioned that. I have lots more to read on this thread.
I'm here looking for answers to pretty much the same question. I recently harvested a 7 1/2 month old, Rhode Island red laying hen. I made broth with all the goodies, including the feet, which I peeled first. And saved the beautiful chicken fat. I let the chicken rest in the fridge for 4 days. It was slightly more flexible. I put it in the oven and roasted it the way I would a turkey. Breast was good, legs and thighs were tough. The broth from the roasted carcass and bones was EXCELLENT in flavor! Next time, I'm going to try the slow cooker or a nice Coq Au Vin, with Burgundy. My fave.
But, I'm thinking that a beef steer must hang to cure for some time before butchering begins.
So, should a cleaned, feathered chicken also hang in cool but not cold temperature for the meat to relax? I'm about to harvest a dozen hens.
Forgive me if this has been answered on a separate thread that I've yet to find.
Peace to all.
Though I lack the funds to donate, please know that my love for mother earth is generating, right now, at Light speed across the Universe to see this through.
What could be more perfect than such a garden of pure natural abundance? How about a thousand or more such orchards.
Here's 100% of my positive energy in the grid towards success with this. On all levels.
~ That is so cool! Great photos. I can't help but think of how many man-hours it took to peel all those logs. You guys did an awesome job of fitting them. How scary now to put all that dirt on top, but what great timing. Winter is just about on us in the Pacific Northwest. Congrats to you, Paul Wheaton, on having such a dependable community of souls to make this all happen. Happy wofati'ing!
*waves northward* ... hiya Bethany! ... Thanks for the update on your situation. I was thinking about you the other day when our KREM2 weather forecast a big change coming with highs in the 40's! This past week of relatively warm weather with afternoon Sunshine has felt great down here in east Chattaroy! What a blessing for you folks especially to be able to finish up enough in your cabin to stay in it instead of the camper.
Hubby and I got our chicken coop painted. Our 20 chickens have been wonderful and it's time to 'harvest' a few of them. I've enjoyed reading through all the helpful tips in Permies chicken forum. Wanting to do the best possible job without freaking either them or me. We did 3 roosters in the summer, shortly after they started crowing as solid proof of their identity. They tasted soooo good!!! We're going to roast chicken for our Thanksgiving meal this year. Just two of us, don't need a huge bird. Been a great year for building as opposed to the past 2 years of mostly cleaning up other peoples messes on this land. We're far from done, but wow it looks different here.
Looking forward to seeing pics of your family all nested in your new cabin. Congrats to you all!
~ Thanks all for replies. You've given us lots to consider. I took pictures of the honey yesterday. I'd called them '1 gal. cans', but they're actually labeled "5 lbs" each. Six cans to a case. Sad loss if that's how it ends up.
We had no other means to store this food, except under a huge steel roof shed that my husband built out of trees he cut down. No walls. The honey along with many of our belongings needed to sit there under tarps for 6 years while we went to Oregon to care for our ailing folks. The last passed away in early 2011, so we moved back to WA and bought our own land. Two weeks ago, we hired some young guys to move a huge load of our stuff. They were careful but stacked too high, one of the honey cans obviously broke.
It took us a few days to clear a path to the cases. When I took these pictures, I noticed the obvious lack of insects. I saw ant trail, but none feeding on that oozing black liquid honey. Same with bees. None going near it. That's a sure sign the black stuff is no longer safe to eat by any means.
We have yet to pop open one of the less damaged cans.
We have about 40 1-gallon cans of Honey. My husband bought it in 1979. Yeah. SEVENTY-NINE. Some of the cans are bulging. Ten years ago, we opened a can and consumed the dark sweet liquid. We ate for about a year and still have part of that gallon in a jar. Obviously, we're still here, but we've been afraid to try it again. It doesn't smell bad, but we wonder if the dark color is something leached out of the metal cans. It was packaged in Cucamonga California.
It's such a large amount of honey that we can't bear to throw it away. What should we do?? How can we test it for toxins?
Allen Lumley... thanks for the referral to http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp . I'd already seen that particular video you suggested, but I did watch it again. That wood stove is a small box-like thing that they attached to a rocket system. What I'm talking about is a very large barrel woodstove that we already have and the idea is to build the rocket stove INSIDE it somehow without cutting it apart. Leaning towards stacking fire bricks inside to create the 'stove', and maybe packing cob around the front edges to house the chamber where heat flows before exiting the chimney.
I should take a pic of our old stove. I looked for one online and can't find any even close. Ours is about 55-gal., heavy steel shaped like an oak whiskey barrel with 1/2" rivets at the seam. Someone had installed a door w/damper using a kit made for barrel stoves. There's a hole at the back end of the barrel where the chimney pipe sits. We had a friend create a flat steel unit to straddle the top making room for two pots. And the stove is currently lined around the bottom half with firebrick. I can vouch for the fact that this unit is a creosote-creatin' SOB, as I spent enough days on the roof cleaning the pipe. We had no other options for heat back then, but we won't be using this beast indoors again unless we can transform it into an efficient rocket stove.
Thanks for all input.
Thanks to Joe Braxton for the link to an ideal and easy method to test soil for clay. I've been looking at my own soil recently hoping to find a clay layer. Past experiences with sculpting red clay and work with porcelain slips gives me a headstart on identification. But when it comes time to building my outdoor rocket-stove oven, I want the right mix. What I'm finding looks like crushed granite, kind of sandy... SHARP sand (as I noted in another thread that SHARP SAND is a must for Cob making.) We also had a couple inches of Mt.St.Helens ash deposited over all of northeast WA a few years back, so when the soil is dry, I believe that's the dust I see flying around.
Last week, I put several big shovels full of that granite/sand/ash/clay-looking layer in a wheelbarrow, added water to several inches over the top of the dirt. Shoveled it around to stir and let it sit. Two days later, when I poured off the clear water, I could see the silty clay-like layer on top. I'm hopeful about this being an ideal mix to which I only need add some cut straw bits. The area I'm digging out is my new Hugelkultur bed. I'd already pulled all the rich topsoil off the top. Just need to sweep the rest of the organic matter off that Hugel bed and begin scooping out some of my future granite/sand/clay cob mix.
~ I actually came to Permies this morning for a different question, but am glad to catch this post with Erica's response. We haven't begun to build our rocket stove heater yet. Meant for husband's Trapper's shed that we hoped we'd have put together by now. Nope. Not even started, but we have enough repurposed lumber and used materials laying around to create a 12'x16'. We also have several options for the stove ... ie: various old propane tanks and a 2001 water pressure tank.
We also have a cool-lookin' hefty old barrel stove on legs which was our only source of heat 10 years ago. I think there's probably some way to turn that barrel stove into a rocket stove. I'll keep mulling that over. We don't have a welder. Maybe I can use fire bricks, or an old steel bucket. (would have to fit through the door.)
Anyway, we have yet to formulate Le Plan as to which size/style/option will work best in the smallish space, but it sounds like we'll go for a straight up chimney to get the best 'draw' and function from the rocket stove. I had been leaning towards that horizontal design until I read your posts this morning.
Thanks for keeping us informed. *waving* from Chattaroy WA. (north Spokane county)
Amazing how sleek and portable they're making Solar power equipment. We don't use much electricity, so one of those smallish systems will work great for us. Someday. Glad to know we can create solar power from the basic elements too, minus the fancy packages, ie: just a battery, some cables, and etc. Thanks for that input! Ours would be a permanent placement, so it doesn't have to be anything fancy.
Bummer, Paul, about the house deal. On the Bright Side, this may be just the kick needed for the creative minded. Maybe work out a deal with Pacific Yurts, buy 'em by the dozen or something. Willing to bet they'd appreciate some ad space on Permies.com. Set up a huge circle of yurts and all the immediate needs for daily life with a big community firepit in the middle.
26 years ago, I heard about a place that offered room and board, or camping space, in exchange for a certain amount of labor, involving cleaning cabins, weeding, and other chores within the workshop community. I wanted to go there for cob and straw bale classes, but that didn't happen. I can't remember the name of it but it was near this place which seems to be fairly new. I perused the website, Paul, and I believe some of this may apply to what you need for proper leadership and goal setting. http://www.emeraldearth.org/mission.htm
~ Congrats to you Paul on finding your land. Will you share a Google Earth image for us to see the location? I'm guessing you might hold your own workshops for some projects on "TL". It's going to be Awesome!!!
Back in 1979, I bought a book by Ray G. Scott, 'How to Build Your Own Underground Home'. It was my dream to live in a cave, or earth shelter. Since then, I've lived in 4 tract homes, 3 mobile homes, and one small cedar home that I designed and had built, but didn't like the location 1/2 mile from a busy highway. After all these years, purchased in 2011 the land of my dreams, where it's very very quiet, but it came with a moldy old double-wide that we're currently stuck in. The seller painted it floor to ceiling ... yes, the floors too... with that special paint called Kilz. They missed a few spots like, oh, an entire bathroom and the whole wall behind the kitchen sink where I can't reach it. And our first winter blessed us with ice melting in the walls which flooded floor in 2 rooms, so we had to fork over big bucks for a steel roof. I'm old enough now that I'm no longer able to work like a horse. I have to overlook the obvious flaws and enjoy the deeper blessing of having this land in the woods. Nearing 60, I still love to build things and work gardens. I missed out on some great opportunities in my life, and now I too toss around ideas, like maybe renting some garden space to a few city folk in exchange for some manual labor on our almost 4 acres. Kudos to Mike Oehler for seeking help. Hope the right ones show up for the tasks. If I were 20 years younger, I could really enjoy such a community, as long as everyone was involved and committed. It's the lazy types who scare me. Interested to follow how it goes for Mike.
Curiousity got the best of me, so I forked over my precious email addy and watched Geoff's videos. I need to learn that if Paul Wheaton says it's good to watch, it is INDEED good to watch. (Thanks Paul.) While I can't do anything to change the 4 acres we bought ("as is") in 2011, we are just now developing ideas on how to maintain this chunk of forest. Farmlands north and west of us, wooded areas to the east and south. Hugelkultur and Permaculture foremost on our brains, it's nice to have input and encouragement towards improving the land for all its inhabitants. I enjoyed Geoff's videos.
So I watched the two short videos, but ... as a former advertising salesperson, can't shake the creepy feeling of this guy insisting on having my email addy. What a sales pitch, typical pusher. If it's free, post it on YTube and let it Be. I don't think he'll have anything more interesting than what I already find at Permies.com with no strings attached. It took me over a year to trust Permies with my email. *LOL*