Hey Lisa hows the property doing? Has it sold? I’ve been curious about having a little space down there for growing food and enjoying in the winter because my parents live in Bonita Springs. Been sort of looking for 5 years but nothing special has shown up. I’m wondering, if it’s still for sale, about how long a drive is the property from Southeastern Bonita springs? What are the neighbors like? Have you had any troubles with locals who don’t understand what you’re up to? Have you found any kindred spirits in that areA? I’m curious why you are leaving, if you don’t mind me asking....
We are a couple looking for our community. We have 20 acres an hour north of Portland that we would love to share with other low/no tech lifestyles. We live with very few modern comforts or technologies. We collect rainwater and haul creek water in buckets for bathing, dishes, cooking, drinking and watering the gardens. We built our 175 sq ft home with materials off our land with only hand tools. We make raw goat cheese, and raw yogurt and drink milk from our goat and harvest wild edibles. We bake sourdough bread on our rocket mass heater and cook with only wood. We poop in a hole and clean ourselves with water. We’re super fancy.
If you would like to live similar but aren’t sure you’re up for it, come visit, stay or permanently live with us to find out! See how it feels living more directly with your immediate natural environment, and relying on technologies and electricity less.
**We may even be interested in renting out our handbuilt house if the right person was interested in having the whole place to themselves for a while and really wanted to get the full experience.
We’re also willing to trade food for work if someone wanted to do an off grid internship with us.
We’re wild abode living on Facebook, check out some photos there.
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828. 216. Eight 799. Leave me a message if you call because calls don’t always show up if I’m out of service. Look forward to hearing from you and possibly a visit!!
Hey! Nice to see your post. My partner and I are in western WA, an hour north of Portland. We are on 20 acres with 2 creeks and south facing mature woods mixed with 10 year post-logging forests and some clearings. We are always looking for open minded people who want to come learn how we make it work. We use very minimal electricity, 40 watt solar panel, and do not have running water. We use rain water and creek water. We haul water in buckets daily. We are growing lots of corn, oats, tomatoes, kale, squash, beans, oats, tomatillos....we handbuilt our tiny hobbit house with materials we harvested off our land. We have a lot to offer to the right people,people wanting to live low-tech and more direct with nature. We have several visitors and helpers come through over the summers. We have a tipi, camper and yurt on the land for anyone to attend to and live in, and some extra wood stoves for cooking. Let me know if you want to explore Washington! We’d love to have ya!
Thanks for your response glenn. So in your description you talk of making the inner half inch mostly clay and the rest mostly grass, now do you mean actually make the riser out of this or are you saying to surround the bricks with this? Either way sounds like a great thing to try, we've got lots of clay and Grass around. Have you or anyone you know tried this? I am really interested in making my own riser out clay. What do you think about subbing grass for horse manure? A 50/50 mix manure/clay for the first 1/2 inch, then more like 85% manure for the insulation. Seems like the Fermintation would make it stronger as a riser.
House updates: got plaster layers on, windows in and all 7 roof layers in place! We are attempting to start our rocket mass heater but we know it's a tricky thing and we are attempting to do it as natural and cheap as possible using local and reclaimed materials. Would really love to have any visitors who have any experience building rocket mass heaters. Here's some photos
Curious what you ended up using?? I just did a search for "natural insulation for rocket mass heater" and your thread popped up. I see you didn't get much help here but since it was a year ago I thought you probably figured something out by now! We are building one this week and we're hoping to use only materials from our land...saw dust, clay straw etc. but haven't found that it's too successful. Would love to hear from you about any tips you learned in your process and if you ever found a local insulation source?
If you have interest in learning some natural building techniques and are in the see Washington area this summer and fall, let us know! We are looking for an intern to help us get the house livable by the cold and rainy times. We are building a 160 square foot round house with all material materials from our land. Everything has been hand harvested except for the windows and pool liner for the roof. We are doing cordwood walls next, which involves making cob, and then we will be putting on many layers of the living roof. We will be doing lots of plastering and collecting of materials from the land over the next couple weeks.
We will provide meals and a camp spot and lots of fun knowledge in exchange for your help! We have creeks to swim in and 20 acres to relax within. Let us know. We're a fun scene.
Thanks for starting this thread sunny, it's definitely the reason I was sure I needed to contact you both! And I am forever grateful that I did. I just wanted to post here that my partner and I are also searching for an Anastasia inspired community. We have 20 beautiful acres in rural southwest Washington. 2 creeks, south facing hills, mixed hardwood forests and temperatures above 20 throughout the winter. For anyone who clicked on this thread looking for a place to start a Kinsdomain with like minded folks, send me a pm or email Jaime.firstname.lastname@example.org. Search my user name to read more details about our vision on this land in other threads I've started. Thanks sunny and sequioa! Hope to come for a visit this year or next.
Daron Williams wrote:When you start doing the light straw clay work I would be interested in helping out. I have been wanting to use that technique for a shed next year and would love to get some hands on experience before jumping into it.
Hey Daron we are doing light clay straw this week and probably next. Let me know if you'd like to come down and learn a bit with us!
Does anyone know how to edit a post? So update on the house. We are almost done digging out the foundation. We have a big rock that will basically be our back wall in the tiny house. We're still tinkering with the details of where the posts are going, but we will start digging post holes in a few days. We're digging down 2 feet for most posts, others we will be chipping away rock to make a semi-flat surface. There are 10 posts total, the ones in the front will be further apart than the ones in the back. We found some free windows that are about 7 feet wide, so weve adjusted the posts slightly to accommodate the beautiful windows. We're going to dig the root cellar, greenhouse, and outdoor kitchen spaces out after we get the house framed up.
To moderators: wondering if there's a way to edit my original posting? I want to add in a few building techniques we will be using and some of our resources and building models. (Cordwood walls, rocket mass heater, attached greenhouse, earthen plasters, "building a low impact roundhouse" by tony wrench, "the hand sculpted house" by Evans, smith and smiley).
Also wondering if I can get this added to the regional forums for the Washington coast region, pacific coast? Or whichever fits best. And lastly added to the natural building forum please let me know if any or all of this is possible. Thank you!
Hey Kelly that sounds perfect As one of our resources for our hobbit house we have been using the "hand sculpted house" by one of the authors is Linda smiley, a director at the cob cottage company. We really love the book and it was an inspiration to us last week the hard debate of whether to use our small tractor for the foundation or do what we really want which is dig it by hand came up. I opened to an ominous page in the book read it and felt inspired to dig it by hand. We spent 3 dry days last week digging and sifting and are feeling great about it.
We would love to have you out at any point of home building to help out. I'm not sure if you are interested in the whole process or just the actual cob making and using, but you are welcome to come for any or all of it. Digging the foundation will take us another month or two depending on weather and how much help we are given. We have a couple folks coming down this next weekend for a digging party if you are interested you can come join in the fun and meet some people we probably won't get to the cob part until August or september I'm guessing. Once foundation is dug we will put up posts and rafters which we have collected most of. Then roof of possible woven cattail reeds on too of willows twigs. Then some insulation and the classic pond liner, our hope fully only man made ingredient. We're planing On a living roof of moss. All just possibilities until we are at that point. So let me know which part of the building you are inspired to help with and I'll try and keep you updates about our progress. Would be great to meet and greet sometime whenever you are free. We're here most days all day email me for future communications bc it's easier for me to check that.
Axel Eaton wrote:Sounds sweet, I'm exploring the idea of doing a coastal bike/surf/farm trip. In the case I do, I'd love to come stay with you. Similar to wwoofing I'm assuming?
Hey axel. Thanks for the message. Your bike trip sounds great. I have often thought about doing something similar. We would love to have you come out for a visit on your journey.
Our situation isnt exactly like wwoofing because we do not have a farm business that one would be helping on. We are just homesteading and we thought we would enjoy sharing our natural building experience with anyone around who wants to see how it works and get some hands on experience. I know i would have really enjoyed learning some of these techniques for free when i was searching for natural building workshops. We do not charge like a workshop or retreat, but we don't have any income currently so we can't take on providing 3 meals a day for people. We are willing to offer lunch to anyone who puts in a days work to say thanks. If someone came who was a huge help and really had no way of paying for their own meals, we could probably try and figure something out that would make it worth it for all parties. We hope that the skills learned at our place are a valued payment. Let us know if you end up taking the trip! Good luck.
Alright! Would love to have you down. That will most likely be in the late summer or fall so I'll try and keep you in mind when the time comes. I will try and document progress on this forum, although We're so busy that not sure how often ill get to it. Remind me later if you are wondering what point were at
We are starting work on a 150 square foot tiny hobbit home on our 20 acres near castle rock WA. We are looking for anyone interested in coming for any time period to learn and help on the house project. We've never built a natural home before but have plenty of building experience and knowledge on the subject. We are currently collecting downed trees and stripping them while digging the foundation and sifting out rocks to use later. We want to use cob, light clay straw, timber framing, building into a hill and burrying the house under ground. We plan to be building all year so pop in for a day or all spring! Let us know if you have any interest, no matter your skill level and we will work it out with you.
We are also interested in building a small community here, of 10-20 people and would love to find anyone interested in possibly living here. We have 2 creeks on the property, many cedars, Doug fir, a few large maples and many alders, all southern facing hills, some wetlands, open areas, forested areas, many many fruit bushes and hazelnuts, and many microclimates. The property was logged 10 years ago so, exxept for near the creeks, there are plenty of 10 year old trees coming up. makes it very nice to do our fruit and nut tree plantings. A very long growing season and a 60 foot greenhouse to share. We want to live as simply as possible while meeting our needs. Harvesting wild foods and growing perennials is a must for us. Interested? We love visitors!
Do you mind expanding on why you don't want electricity on your home?
I have no problem w/ E, just how it's made. Bad E: coal, nat gas, oil; Good E: Solar, Hydro, human power
I'd love to visit but I live in Central New Mexico ... maybe in my travels this summer?
Thanks for the words.
thanks for the question Lorance. I don't want electricity around because I feel that it takes away from my experience directly with life and nature. I think that life is more fulfilling, lively, exciting, intuitive and joyful when I am encouraged by my surroundings to live in the present moment and learn how to operate myself in an intuitive way. Relying on electronics to do work for me takes away from my direct experience of myself and the world, and i feel more fulfilled when I am experiencing life fully. Mostly i want to raise children in this sort of very intuitive space, so that they develop their own deeply intuitive powers...and of course do not want to spend all their time looking at screens like so many of us seem to. Also, I think "good" bad" when talking of energy manufacturing is definitely on a gray scale and based on personal perception. There are many disadvantages to the mining of the materials involved in solar panels, have you ever done any research on that topic? can be quite persuasive against their use once you have an idea of the "cost". Some people may feel that the solid jobs provided by the coal/oil companies makes it worth the damage to the earth. Some materials in solar panels are only mined in much less developed countries and results in something that many call "slave labor", plus tons of mining of the earth. Which is worse, coal or solar? depends on what you read you who you ask. My point is that unless you are directly involved with the entire process, i.e. hauling and chopping your own fire wood to cook with, then its very hard to know who all and what all is affected by your choices. I want to be as aware as possible as all the affects of my choices, and i would like to be in community with people who feel the same. Human generated electricity works sometimes, but then what device do you use to convert it and where do all those materials come from? Repurposing things does help, such as building a wind turbine from scraps, i would just prefer to learn to live without. I do not want to be dependent on it for a healthy life.
HOpe you can make it out sometime! just let me know.
lorance romero wrote:Jamie, dig your thoughts! Curious, how do you do internet if your not down with electricity?
That's exactly why we have the 40 watt solar system. We charge our hotspot and cell phones with it so we can look for like-minded community from out here in the boonies. That is why, even though we could easily function day to day without electricity, and many days we do, we have some temporarily while we establish a community. I just want everyone that's Interested to know that the intention is for zero electricity as soon as we are more established and sustaining ourselves a little more with what we can provide on the land. I would LoVE to do away with the solar system right now, but we would be lonely
So great to connect! I'm available for a visit really any time. I'm pretty much there always. Right now its pretty chilly and wet, we live in the greenhouse right now so it warms up during the day, mornings and evenings are usually in the 40's though. So what i'm trying to say is, ya, come on down, but schedule your visit according to how warm you prefer to stay You are welcome to stay the night, you can pitch a tent or a bed in the greenhouse, its 60' so theres plenty of space right now (we had tomatoes and peppers in there last year, but theres just some chickens in a chicken tractor in a small portion of the space now). Or a day visit is fine too if you prefer, since you aren't too far. My partner will be home on the 4th, so if you would like to meet both of us come after that. If it makes more sense for you to come before that, that's totally fine too. I enjoy having visitors any time, we don't get too much company out where we are. If you'd like to watch the weather and plan for a dry day that may be more enjoyable. A lot of the land is extra saturated, so bring rubber boots! My email is email@example.com. We can talk more details though email once you have an idea of when you can come
So were not completely electricity free currently, but once we have a community started thats the way we will go, so we are wanting to attract others who are interested in living without electricity from the beginning. We are close though, we only have a 40 watt solar panel currently. We burn candles mostly, sometimes turn on our single light. We would like to have our own bee hives to make all our own candles with. We have raw 20 acres with 2 creeks, one year round. Its a beautiful spot out in rural western WA, about an hour north of Portland. We are inviting anyone who is slightly interested to come out for a visit. We are friendly and love to have visitors. We are ideally looking for 10-20 people to share this space with, 4-6 families. Our goals involve growing/wild harvesting all of our own food, having our only power source be human power, having group meals daily, building all the homes very simple and from materials found on the property, developing a self sustaining food growing system that involves lots of perennials and wild foods, and foods that reseed themselves well, offering donation based workshops on all sorts of things to the greater community, and growing deep bonds with the surrounding towns. This area is not currently very "permie" minded, but we hope to bring new ideas and offer them to those who are interested free of charge. We like volunteering and helping others and hope to form some sort of work co-op where we can help the local community out on projects that require physical labor or a crafty skill set. Currently we have a 60' greenhouse, a tipi and a mangled half standing yurt. We have some fruit trees planted and are accumulating local seeds for starting more fruit/nut trees. We have a few grapes, many strawberries, asparagus, rhubarb, artichoke and many many herbs that are all coming in now or soon. We drink the creek through a berkey. Come hang out if you're in the area. come live here if you love it.
my partner and i have 20 acres in toute WA. WHere are you at? would love to have you stop by. Theres no warmth for sleeping though, we don't have a house yet. But a day visit if you're close would be great! A longer visit when the nights warm up a bit is also welcome. perhaps we could be your first stop!
hey jen, so where are you now? In idaho somewhere? My partner and i have 20 acres in southwest washington. Were looking to have a small community here. 10-20 people. our common theme is low to no electronics. Currently we use a 40 watt solar set up for extremely minimal charging of computer and phone. But once we have a community going we plan to get rid of the solar too. Human powered community is our goal. We eat meat, raise a few chickens, getting better at bow hunting and fishing. our goal is to grow lots of perrenials, wild harvest, and fill inthe gaps with some annuals. trying to keep away from labor intensive farming. Love natural farming. Come for a visit some time if you're in the area.
hey you 2,
well living in hawaii sounds pretty amazing. Are you still there or have you come over to the rest of the states already? I just wanted to let you know that my partner and I have 20 acres in Toutle, WA and we are welcoming folks who want to live simply back in nature to come stay and see if they want to call this place home with us. We are hoping to have 4-5 families here eventually, growing all our own food or eating the wild foods that nature provides us already. Thought we may have enough in common so wanted to reach out. We don't have a farm that needs "run" currently, we are just getting started. And its more of a homestead than a "farm". But we intend to support the whole community some day through things we produce or craft on the land. Let me know if this sounds interesting to you and we can discuss more details. Good luck on your search!
really connecting with the lifestyle you've created in my mind. Sounds a lot like how my partner and I live in Washington state. We are considering moving if we can't find community where were at, but would love to connect either way. You seem like you'd fit right in with us. i'll pm you. later
Love your message! absolutely is on line with what i'm imagining for my ideal home. My partner and I have spent the last few years trying to find the perfect space and community for what we believe is right for us. We are all about NVC, try to practice it daily.
We are still on the lookout for our ideal home and excited to move somewhere new early spring. I would love to talk some more details with you soon! I'll pm you and we can discuss more
First of all i’m really hoping that you are still checking these messages because my partner and I are extremely interested in what you have described. First i would like to tell you just a little about us. We have been on the hunt for a like-minded community for years (both before we met and together). We are currently living in Washington state and have a posting on the ic.org site which i will try to remember to link at the bottom. We have had a few visitors but nothing too hopeful for future land-mates. We are loving the lives we live but are feeling a definite lack in the social area. We are craving community and going searching next month to find it. Before we got together, I was living in North Carolina in the blue ridge mountains. Jared lived out here in the NW, so we gave it a go out here but with the agreement that we would search for community in both areas together to see where called to us most. We are taking an extended road trip starting in just 3 weeks to the east and hitting up many friends, family and hopefully some promising communities or people looking to start community. We are in a healthy financial situation and can currently contribute to buying some land or buying a parcel or whatever it turns out as. We both have spent many years gardening/farming, had chickens, milked goats etc. Jared has fantastic carpentry experience and I have done some natural building internships. We are really interested in living kindly/simply/directly with the earth, which to us means using less factory made things and more forest made things. Our IDEAL lifestyle involves living in a earthen structure made entirely from things of the land surrounding us. We are accumulating and practicing the knowledge of wild foods so that we can eat what nature provides and spend less time growing and preserving “non-wild” foods. Currently most of my days are spent preserving the foods we have been growing all year. We live off grid, with a single solar panel, but still have some internet, computers and cell phones around. We have a 13 year old “alert” dog who keeps the gardens free from deer and the chickens free from predators, and 2 newly acquired kittens in order to keep the mouse population in check.
We are looking for someplace to care for, and that will care for us in return. We are looking to share space with other loving folks in hopes that we can be there for each others social needs. To love and support each other, to help out on the tough projects, to learn from each others interests, and to have dinner and a good conversation with a few times a week. We are pretty laid back and I am feeling that we would have a good connection. Hoping to hear back and possibly meet up with you all to discuss living situations and possibly homesteading together. Looking forward to it! p.s. i tried to pm you without success. Not sure whats going on but pm me if you can.