Kai, your writing, in a word is magnificent. Yet this seems inadequate to describe the joy and envy that I experienced reading your posts. The sentence I've quoted here is one of the most beautiful things I've ever read.
Kai Duby wrote: But the nuthatches that have taken up residence in the bird house near my door are always starting up a cacophony of "mur-mur-mur"s that wake me to the strange but pleasant dichotomy of forest and town.
Please, for the sake of humanity, drop whatever you are doing and become a writer full time. You have a gift that MUST be shared.
I have watched in awe as you have crafted and created wonders. Wow, I am blown away with your skills, creativity, and Awesomeness.
All of that being said, I must say that I think your writing is even more powerful than what you have nurtured in your work at the lab. It seems to come natural to you. What a great future you have.
Please, Please, Please keep writing either here, in a notebook, on a tree or wherever. The world will be a better place if you do.
Elizabeth Rose wrote: We call it "designing for ownership." How do you design systems where the idealists (many in the permaculture world) can experience how their needs may or may not be met BEFORE there are commitments or agreements that might not work out. Land stewardship, farming, facilitation - these are intense and taxing tasks, often less glamourous than our instagram feed. The problem is the solution, right? If we can design our people systems to cultivate ownership of a project, more wofatis get completed, the sawdust bucket gets full, the garden gets weeded.
Ms. Rose, I couldn't agree more. unfortunately authoritarian regimes don't work in this environment. Plus your way takes "so much time"
We got one here in Torrance County, New Mexico, specifically in Edgewood, NM Here's the text. also check out the attachment
~ 2017 Seed Swap and Fruit Tree Workshop ~
You're invited to bring seeds, bulbs, tubers and other potted or bare root plants to swap or share – please label as to type of seed i.e. “Grandma's Zucchini Squash”
List the variety and describe the plant and its fruit or flowers as thoroughly as you can!
Tables and chairs are available if you need room to set up and lay out your garden items, seed envelopes, or plants you bring to swap.
Seeds from our seed bank will be available!
Co-op membership forms will be available
Fruit tree selection
Fruit Tree care
Garden Soil Preparation
Guest Speaker: Dwight Luna, an authority on growing fruit trees in NM
Date: Saturday – March 4, 2017
Time: 10:00 am – 12:00 noon
Location: Edgewood Soil and Water Conservation District Office
2506 Route 66, west of Moriarty, NM
♦ East Mountain Seed & Garden Co-Op (a division of EMCC Helps, Inc. a non-profit 501c3 corporation)
♦ Edgewood Soil and Water Conservation District
Donations will be accepted
For More information, event updates, visit our website or email us!
“While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.” Genesis 8:22
Website: http://eastmountainseed.org Email: email@example.com
This thread and the forums in general continue to remind me how little i am.
i constantly find myself thinking, "i didn't know that" and how much of a student, in all things i am.
At other times i think, fuck that i'm fucking brilliant and awesome, i am, you SHOULD listen to me.
i think that sometimes the word "should" is very appropriate in some circumstances ie: you shouldn't poke the bear
or you SHOULD eat your peas
more recently i write stuff and i think why does anyone read this shit i write?
i then think why does anyone think that their time is worth spending here and i think yeah that's cool or not.
so i try to think that what i write is funny memorable and respectful of everyone and i shouldn't be mean, or nasty.
So I come up with these rules that i try to adhere to when i write/post something.
1) who am i writing for you or me
2) Am i trying to be mean, funny, witty,
3) what is my point
4) am i contributing or detracting
5) what would my wife, mom, kids say if they read this
6) what would future lorance say if he read this 5 years from now
7) own what you say, asshole!
and finally "if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all"
My desire is to be constructive and helpful. I envision the 365 days in AA going something like this.
Our couple arrives April 1 2017 at the Lab. They begin by unloading their meager belongings into AA. They unpack their sleeping bags, (its still nippy out this time of year) their cooking supplies, some food and clothing. They let the dogs explore their new home for the next 365 days. They get the lay of the land, they get an idea of what needs to be done to repair or improve AA. By now it's been a long day as the sun begins to set
April 2, 2017 Paul arrives to discuss what his expectations are for the improvement and repair of AA. An agreement is reached as to what is expected to be completed in the first 60 days. Besides the work of AA, the following tasks need to be completed and identified
1 - Build a mini chateau de poo
2 - Build a solar shower
3 - Firewood lots of firewood 4 cords minimum
4 - Garden construction, maintenace
5 - Fetch Water
6 - Feed the dogs
7 - Do the daily post to Permies.com about the doings at "365 Days in AA"
8 - Make Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner
9 - Get up at sunrise, go to bed at sunset
10 - etc
April 3 2017 - April 1, 2018 Do items 3 - 10 over and over and over again.
I can see why there has not been anyone who has taken you up on your offer of free rent for a year. While there has been some terrific work done on AA it seems based on my experience seeing it a year ago, and reading a lot of the posts, AA has a long way to go to be a real home. It would certainly help to have some hearty souls live there and fix some of the problems that still exist. At present it's a pretty groovy log/primitive, off-grid cabin. Please don't misconstrue my intentions here. I think this is a terrific experiment that a years residency would yield many benefits to the permaculture community.
If there was any incentive to the couple for staying the entire 365 days I think there would be several volunteers who don't mind going without water, electricity etc
Will they get the two weeks off like our intrepid ants got in the ant challenge?
Would firewood be available to our daring duo to heat AA? Water?
Would the chateau de poo be located more closely to AA or would our heroes be expected to make the trip every morning? or perhaps a private "chateau de poo 2 or 1/2" can be built?
Is there or might there be the possibility of building a solar shower near AA?
What happens if something happens that makes AA unlivable? ie: a tree falls on it? lightning strikes? snowed out? flooded out? grizzly bear shows up? burns up?
What if our couple were the ones that burned the place up, would they be held liable? Insurance?
Will they be allowed to have firearms with them?
Can our brave people have outside jobs? Could they work for the ants?
Can they do bounty work once the 60 days have passed and they have completed the work on AA?
What level of participation in the Base Camp/Lab community will you expect from our terrific twosome?
What happens if the couple decides to breakup but one wants to stay?
Once our brave couple takes up residency at AA, will others be allowed to use AA, like the ants or will AA be their private residence, except for tours?
Hope I don't get banned for saying some of these things. Good Luck!
Thanks so much for your words of advise. I am constantly amazed when I see people operating a chainsaw without even the barest of safety equipment. So many things can and do go wrong. Hopefully others will take the time to read and profit from your words.
I wanted to thank you for taking the time to post here. You spoiled the rest of us with your "daily" postings of your adventures last year. It was the first thing I looked at each day. I found them entertaining, thought provoking, informative and fun.
Although your posts have been less numerous as your first year, they have nevertheless been as profitable and enjoyable. I must say that I do miss your daily reports.
I know that's not your problem but mine. I should go work harder on the garden or some other mind numbing thing, but change is hard and I find myself longing for more of your pictures.
I understand how hard it is to keep up the "herculean" pace you set last year, and this is not a plea for more but rather an idea for you to ponder.
On this side of the cyber world, I DAILY, receive a daily report of the happenings of the website from Pauls "This is Paul Wheaton's daily-ish email ..." Now I am not suggesting that we get the same kind of thing like Paul's but perhaps you could persuade the other members of the ant village to post more as a cooperative. ie: this is chris, I drove the tractor today, ie: this is evan I dug for water today.
Perhaps by sharing the load of posting by everyone you can get some relief and we can hear what others in the village might have to contribute to the conversation.
This is a remarkable accomplishment. Your devotion, work and perseverance are truly an inspiration to all permaculture practicers and wannabes.
WATER!!! What a great way to mark your anniversary.
When I visited the lab last October, one of the reasons I rejected the idea of living at the lab was the lack of water.
Youz guys ability to find water is life itself. The possibilities are now limitless. Remarkable!
This day should be forever remembered and commemorated with a plaque, memorial, and national holiday, oooooooo ... a fountain!!!
How about naming your anniversary date as Founder's Day?
I take it you are looking for someone with experience to direct the "resort" with ideas towards the comfort and joyful experience of the glampors while trying to secure funds for further projects of world domination. Further, you are looking for someone with a bunch of ideas to entertain folks and make their visit enjoyable, memorable and exciting. All of this to be accomplished through the watchful, benevolence of yourself.
1) Yes you and your family can spend the weekend in a real live tipi where you can experience the warm comforting heat of a RMH
2) Come to the land of permaculture, get away from all the hustle and bustle of the big city
3) Ever pooped in a outhouse, wanna get in touch with how your ancestors use to do their business
4) Ever killed, dressed, butchered, cooked your own pig, cow, squirrel, bear, elk, porcupine, swan, duck, moose, deer, chicken, wanna? we can show you how for a price.
5) Ever run a backhoe
6) Wanna chop down a tree
7) Tour guides available for your personal trip to the back country to see lots of trees etc
Ever seen two pigs doing it?
9) Help with this years harvest. Bring the kids to dig up the potatoes and carrots and put them up for the winter.
In all seriousness, I can see the opportunities to share with others depending on the time of the year.
Hmmmm.... this description gets my restaurant owner/manager, hospitality person, juices flowing. Several questions come to mind.
1) Autonomy? Who would be in charge of the resort phase, Paul or me?
2) Where would I live, How would I eat as I was building this great resort?
3) Resorts usually mean services, ie: who will clean the guests tipi, make the guests bed, feed the guests? Would you be looking for direction from the resort director?
4) Any kind of budget to work with?
5) What kind of profit expectations do you have?
6) I've listened to 76 podcasts and counting.
My wife and I are retired with a fixed income so making money immediately would not be a problem for us.
Thermal bridging is when the heat is transferred by conduction through a solid frame structure. Like the metal sill plate of an exterior door gets cold so fast. If you put the studs up tight to the 1x10 they will conduct the heat and bypass the insulation.
Sounds like thermal bridging is counterproductive to my goals.
And you don't need to spend the expense of 2x6 just to get a 6" cavity to fill. You can use 2x4s spaced out using spacer blocks at the floor and ceiling. That will remove thermal bridging from the wood, too.
You just saved me a bunch of money! I'm gonna try this.
Depending on your goals you could simply strap the exterior with 4-6" of EPS and then cover with siding or whatever finish you choose. Probably simpler and cheaper than simply framing the outside of the walls.
Sean, Sorry I didn't make it clear. On the exterior side of the 1x10s there is stucco. So I probably don't want to do anything outside.
What kind of temperatures do you get year round? IIRC you are in the desert?
This morning it was 9 degrees F. But mostly winter temps are around 32 degrees F during the winter months. 90s in the summer.
These houses were built with 2 - 1"x10"x7' rough boards placed back to back and then stucko on the exterior walls with no insulation. There was only one 1x10x7' board on the interior walls. Inbetween the boards were rags. Newspapers, cardboard, an even an old table cloth covered the interior walls under a very thin coat of plaster. So basically the R factor was -- Well -- not much.
I've banged this around my head for about a year now. I have a vision of what I want it to be in the end.
I sometimes think that the best solution would be to just tear down the whole kitchen addition and start from scratch. It seems it's easier to start over than to redo but I'm trying to get my head around the idea of dealing with what I have rather than forcing the world to my bidding. This is one of the things that draws me to permaculture.
So often in my years. 57, I've heeded the bulldozer's dance rather than paying attention to what the earth is trying to tell me. I'm trying to listen better.
That being said - a plan makes sense. Thanks for that input.
I live in central New Mexico. Summers are generally in the 90s and Dry
Winters are mild, compared to Canada. We rarely get below 20 F. Thanks for asking.
I learned about a product called "Ultra Touch Denim" - sounds interesting, a little better R factor, comparable in price to fiberglass, not itchy, looks like it's easy to use. Anyone use it?
I also learned about another product called Roxul, it's suppose to be a wool-like product and comparable in price, also not made of fiberglass, not itchy and easy to work with. Anyone familiar with this?
One thing I've learned that when you're talking about R factor the biggest thing is thickness of walls - the thicker your walls the more R factor potential you have. According to one chart you would need 15 inches of wall space to achieve R50. Doesn't seem very practical in a redo situation. Any thoughts?
I did consider cellulose - I'm going to take down the interior 1x10s and I was thinking cellulose was loose and had to be blown in so would I need to put up some sort of barrier to keep the stuff in place? If so, should I just use a plastic or maybe EPS?
I'm a long time lurker. I've learned so much here. Thanks.
I thought I would ask if anyone has an idea/opinion on how to improve the R-factor on our existing house walls that basically have R-factor Zero? We have stucco walls with 1x10 boards, 2x4 studs then 1x10 boards then stucco again.
I'm looking for an alternative to traditional pink insulation.
I was thinking about spay foam insulation. The costs seem to be too expensive to contract it out for a small house like ours. <800 sq feet. It seems difficult to find the product, and train on the equipment to do the installation. Am I wrong?