If she stops eating, peeing or pooping it's serious. If she doesn't do one of those for 12 or more hours, and you have a vet, best to take her in for professional help.
Many farmers around here miss the early signs of sickness, so it's really good you noticed it. Are there any sudden changes - taking less than 6 hours to make the change - or is it more gradual?
If you have a mentor (perhaps the person who you got them from?), then maybe they could come around and have a look. They know the history of the animal and can advise what to do.
My first instinct is to suggest backing soda as free choice - which you are already doing. It might help to put a little pinch of baking soda on her lips or gums so she can get the flavour of it and remember that she likes it.
My second instinct is to wonder if she is pregnant. The babies usually form up on the right side and look like bloat near the end of gestation. This would also lower appetite and energy. It also makes them a little bit dreamy and extra affectionate.
My third thought is mineral imbalance - too much or too little? When in doubt, cut back. Mineral overdose will kill an animal faster than a deficit.
Do you know the general mineral profile of your area and of where your goat's food is grown? The commercial mineral mixes are generic so quite often we need to add or subtract from the mix to meet our local requirements.
Maybe try giving DE as free choice instead of part of their feed. There's a lot of different opinions on DE as a wormer. I find that most worm issues can be prevented with pasture and diet management and that too much DE over time can affect digestion. I keep stronger stuff like DE for when the animals show signs of worms. But, as I said, opinions on this are divided, but it's something to try.
Did you mention salt? There shouldn't be any in your minerals (even though salt is a mineral) as they can OD on minerals to get to the salt.
Today I had a wonderful meeting with a papermaker. We talked about hemp, flax, and how the papermaking group is transforming invasive species into useful things. I'm hugely impressed with their work.
The conversation turned to nettles. I had some nettle skins I had stripped in years past that I forgot to hide out of sight. So we got to talking about it. One of the things with making paper is the difficulty in separating the fibres from the woody part of the plants. Stripping the skins of the nettles solves this problem.
I sent some home with her to test. Things are busy, so it will probably be a few months before we hear the results. But the method sounds a lot like how some places process nettle fibre for yarn. Boil the material in an alkali solution remove anything, not cellulose. Then process the results into the desired form.
The persons involved may be pursuing criminal or civil charges. No lawers yet, but it's a history of behaviour that led up to this and the individuals I'm advocating for want documentation that is acceptable to the police or the judge if things escalate.
Does this change the documentation and tests we need?
There is an area that is suddenly dead of nettles, weeds, and grass that was vibrant and alive two weeks before. The line where this death is very marked and rectangular.
I thought at first a bit of wood was put there, but there's none of the leggy white growth that happens when something like nettles grows underwood.
Not sure how to test for this but I can't think of anything non-chemical that would cause this damage.
We have an old lamp in the basement I was thinking of rewireing.
Then I thought, it sure would be nice if that lamp wasn't attached to the wall with a cord.
So I wondered, would it be possible to put a battery in the base (looks like there is enough space) - and if so, what do I need to know about batteries - they seem to want to breath or something.
Maybe the battery could be rechargeable? I would like to be able to get 10 or more hours of light from one charge. I need it to be a fairly bright light so I can do detailed work by it. But it could also be less bright for ambient lighting.
Maybe I could charge the light from a USB cord and battery pack when the power goes out.
What would I need to make this work? Almost all my electrics experience is with hose-power (wiring behind the wall and rewiring things we plug into the wall).
Yesterday morning there was a pesticide drift from the north. Second time in under a week. I think it's something they use on their horses as it smells like seven.
The problem is, my back-up mulberry trees are on the north property line. These trees are growing in a STUN situation so they aren't' as tender as the leaves from the trees that are growing next to the chickens. I was saving these mulberry trees for last because the bigger worms can eat tougher leaves. But now...
... I don't know if it is safe to use these leaves. I don't know enough about sprays. Can the leaves just be washed off? I'm hoping I won't need them for a week, but would a week be long enough for the chemical to dissipate?
It's been a while since I bought a bra. They tend to be difficult as I have, um, a generous endowment and a small ribcage. 34 G was the last one I bought, but I suspect my size has changed a lot in 10 years. Because of all the weight, wearing a bra puts a lot of stress on my solar plex which effects my digestion. wired bras are right out.
But there a thing and stuff and I probably need to get a bra to make things work.
So... If I'm going to be wearing this thing next to a sensitive part of my body, I want it to be natural, preferably organic.
Are there any good organic bras that might accommodate my size issue?
Kai Walker wrote:
Every forum I have been to wants as much activity as they can get.
That's probably why so many forums fail. They sacrifice quality for quantity.
Kai Walker wrote:
Every forum I have been to wants as much activity as they can get.
But this one seems to me that significant activity is shunned?
Therein lies another confusing aspect for me to digest.
I don't think the goal of permies was ever to become popular. I'm amazed we have as many members as we do. For some reason, people want to spend time here. Even though permies a heavily moderated environment.
One of the aims of this site is to create a perennial resource where we can talk about and explore permaculture. when reading old threads, you may notice that there is very little chaff to distract from the conversation.
Kai Walker wrote:Yes please sign me up for the almost a post thing.
Almost-a-post is for posts that are almost perfect. They have to be pretty amazing but have only one tiny thing wrong with them.
Almost-a-post uses up a lot of staff time and a staff member has to like the post enough to think it's worth putting the energy and effort into improving. Nine times out of ten, the person who needed to change one tiny thing throws a tantrum about moderation instead of changing that one tiny thing to meet publishing standards. If someone has a history of complaining about moderation, it makes staff less inclined to use this feature.
Also, the post has to be amazing with only one tiny flaw. If a post has a lot of flaws or nothing in it that meets publishing standards, it gets removed.
Posts that do not meet publishing standards are removed. This is NOT open for discussion.
Permies.com is a highly moderated site. Your posts are eating up a huge amount of staff time by posting things that do not meet publishing standards. The staff here are volunteers who donate their time to permies because they are lovely people who feel permies is a nice place to spend their time.
It sounds like you are telling us how we SHOULD run this site. This isn't going to work.
Permies.com is run the way that Paul Wheaton, the owner and self-proclaimed tyrannical dictator, says it will be run. If you feel okay with that, then you'll make the effort to learn what is expected of you when you post to this site.
If you are like most of the human race and aren't comfortable with a highly moderated website, then it may be time to look elsewhere.
You are a hairsbreadth from being banned from this site. Think carefully before you post again.
Even 'natural' sunscreen can cause symptoms in people around you. Soy, nuts, coconut, and anything that offs gas can affect people who are sensitive to those substances and in extreme cases send a person into anaphylaxis shock.
Also, having to reapply this stuff over and over again, every day... that sounds annoying and expensive.
An alternative would be to be like our ancestors; choose sun-safe clothing, create shady spots with trees or popup tents, and build up a resistance to the sun slowly over time.
R, you are so lucky to live in BC, the low humidity is one of your helpers when it comes to leaf curl as you have noticed. ...
It's not low humidity so much. When it's not raining, everything is dew-drenched each morning except for a few weeks in August. It's the family tradition to grow peaches and apricots under the overhang of the house where the dew doesn't reach. A lot of people here tell us one cannot grow peaches where I live. But I didn't know that until recently and we've always had a peach tree. I bet if we tried to grow it out in the open, we would have a lot of trouble with the leaves curling.
There's a lot we do in our family because that's what was always done. My father learnt from his grandfather who was a farm Boy (would be considered farm manager in these days) and did things the way that they had always been done. Chemical and tractors were a recent invention and a waste of money because he could get better yields with less input using the traditional ways.
Three days ago I had the heat on to keep the room over 70F. Yesterday, the weather shot up and it was 80F overnight and hotter during the day. We had to take measures to keep the room below 85F. Crazy!
But even more crazy is in the first two hours after 'breakfast' yesterday, the worms were hungry. By noon they had eaten two days worth of food. I'm glad I had someone check in on them otherwise I would have had a mutiny.
We already have some that have shed their skin twice. Maybe third instar? Or possibly forth? I don't know.
Having to import materials means using resources to get that stuff there - often money. It's depriving one area of a resource to feed another. It's worse if it is a finite resource.
We import resources to transform land into something we envision. But often this ignores that the land already has everything it needs to become something even better. As humans, our vision is limited. We see a vegetable garden, when maybe the land would be better off as an orchard or pasture, or both. But it's not in a convenient place to be a pasture, so we import stuff to force it to grow vegetables.
So importing isn't ideal and it's not sustainable.
However, it is a good stepping stone.
Not everyone has access to a land that is perfect for growing squash. But we have the tools to transform the land by moving stuff in.
Quite often people do this badly - think chemical fertilizer - by creating systems that need constant inputs and irrigation to be maintained. That's expensive. I advocate importing as little as possible to create a system that is self-feeding.
If a system is well designed to match the location and the humans maintaining it, then importing materials works.
Wonderful! I wrote you back. This is going to be fun. I enjoy your posts on permies.
I wouldn't mind trying my hand at a few other things as a way of diversifying my income for this badge. I'm also curious to try new things to see if I find anything I like doing. I'm not good at putting myself out there so I don't know what I would be good at.