I know this is an old thread but this seemed like the right place for a horseradish question.
I have recently discovered the stuff relieves my allergies and have been going through a lot of the store bought mixes. I've tried a number of brands but the one that starts with a K is far more spicy/ potent than all the others I've tried. If I was putting it on food I might want something a little mellower but I'm not. I'm looking for sinus clearing eye watering stuff.. finally my question.
What makes that brand so potent. Considering the ingredients amongst all brands are very similar I'm under the impression it's the variety of horseradish? Am I wrong? If I'm right what are the spicier varieties? If I'm wrong what's the secret to strong horseradish? Is it the recipe? The growing conditions?
Thank you all for the great information. While I appreciate all the great tips for finding land, my biggest obstacle in this area is price, what I'm really looking for in this thread is more along the lines of an order of operations, like Redhawk suggested the first step of.
An order of operations and sources that address the operations in a systematic way.
If this isn't in the best place for it to be please don't hesitate to move it.
This is about growing but indirectly.
Background: I've been lurking here for awhile. A couple posts here and there... I'm close to buying a few acres. I want to do a permaculture orchard, small market/ annual garden, and a greenhouse for microgreens and season extension of the stuff will use or profit from. I want to use permaculture techniques. I understand the very basics from lurking and other research but not very confident about anything yet. I have a degree in horticulture and have worked in the field off and on for years but mostly in ornamentals or turf. Gotta pay the bills. My personal studies and interests have focused on food and organics.
Ive watched a bunch of permaculture videos on youtube but they seem to be very low on content... void of most methods and explanations at least. They seem more like an advertisement for design courses or a, "Hey look what we did!" Which is very inspiring but not exactly what I'm looking for.
Question: I want a permaculture lesson plan for myself that focuses on these topics. I don't want a design certification or anything like that. It's not in the budget. I want a list and order of a the books I should read and the movies I should watch. Ideally things I can get from the library but I'll spend a few bucks if you convince me. So if you can suggest a book list and order to read them I'd greatly appreciate it.
Chris Griffin wrote:The show producers influence a lot of what Tony and Amelia do. This season's trip to the coast for salt made the couple look ignorant in my opinion. I live near and in the same climate as the couple, I know that they travelled about 250 miles to the coast to collect their sea salt. The deer meat was left where? Our winter was super mild when that was filmed. Deer meat, venison, is safer canned than cured or smoked. Tony and Amelia are very intelligent people, but gave in to the producers need to show "drama". I just wanted to blow off a little steam in regards to the " show"...
I have little doubt that Tony and Amelia know what they are doing and have some control of what is happening in the show. By this I mean they are barterers, and so likely are getting something for every silly drama thing they do for the show. My guess is they get some grace on pushing some information point that they want to share but the production thinks is too boring when ever they do some silly unreality show drama thing.
Couldn't agree more Devin. I'm not sure if the sequence was portrayed accurately but I had a huge problem with tiny and Amelia harvesting a deer but being to build a dehydrator and go to the beach to get salt AFTER the fact! I know they're smarter than that and would have found a way to barter for salt or build the dehydrator first.
Terri Matthews wrote:Permaculture is not tapping on a metal bowl while you chant. Permaculture is tonight's blackberry pie, made from berries that I grew, and it will follow a dinner of the fish that I caught. Mowing a lawn and planting herbs can be called Permaculture: chanting while tapping a bowl is not!!!
Hi. I respect your opinion but the site isn't about permaculture. Some of the people on the show use some permaculture like techniques. I'm sure some people that do permaculture ride a bike, go to church, do yoga, collect stamps, whatever.
Thanks for the detailed response. I have a bit of experience with older backhoes and a good deal with skid steers. Not thousands of hours but a few hundred. I appreciate you easing my mind about cutting down trees. It just rarely feels like the right thing to do but I know sometimes it must be done for the greater good. Thanks for the suggestions.
Ah the tomatoes. Come October I can't bring myself to eat a tomato for months because they taste like cardboard. I will look into the pineland regulations. I'm actually looking at the northern border of them. I'd prefer a more deciduous and slightly less lyme tick area. If only at 18 I knew what was going on. I would have invested in land for the future.
Thanks for easing my mind. That's probably true about 99.9% of this area. I spoke to a local organic farmer and he told me he paid 10K per acre to have an area cleared in 94. I imagine it's double that now. He said he sold all the maple out of it but he didn't mention if it put a good dent in the cost.
Thanks to all 3 of you for the encouragement and I apologize for the delay in my response.
I'm in central nj. Closer to the coast than Philly. I'm looking at land within an hour of where I am. I've been looking for a long time b/c land is expensive and harder to find around here. Yes, moving would be great but for family and employment reasons it just isn't possible. The area is known as the pine barrens. Most lots are wooded and that leads me to my question.
Should I consider a wooded lot? I've ignored them for a long time. I have dreams of a small orchard, garden, permaculture, few small animals, already have the 3 kids and dog...
The task of clearing land seems expensive, time consuming, and extremely environmentally irresponsible.
Any ideas or experiences will be appreciated. I'm not getting any younger and neither are the kids.
Devin Lavign wrote:BTW if Tony ever pops back on here, I was curious if you and Thorn have ever met up? Sounds like he is right in your neighborhood as they keep saying "5 miles away over the ridge" about the two of you.
There is an episode where Thorn's daughter isn't feeling well so he drops her off with Tony and Amelia while he goes foraging for medicine. It happens to be their anniversary. I believe it's on season 2.
This had turned into a great thread. These last few posts have reminded me of other things I wanted to say.
First, if your you're already eating mushrooms, apparently just like us, they're very good at making d3 if they're exposed to the sun. So if you're eating them increase your vitamin d intake exponentially by exposing them to sunlight for a few hours after harvest.
Second, I don't know that freeze drying doesn't some how rupture the cell wall and make the nutrients available. Maybe there's some research that says it does. Anyone else know? My gut tells me no but I've been wrong more times than I care to admit.
First, I just want to repeat something John clem said b/c I think it's very important. The active ingredients in mushrooms aren't completely accessible if the mushroom isn't "cooked." I'm not sure what temperature or methods are ideal but it's worth looking into for your purposes.
Neil made some great points about research but for those just getting into finding proof I think it's important to point out that not all, in fact a great deal, of peer reviewed research is not "independent." Many times it's paid for by some entity with a financial interest in the outcome. Knowing who pays for the research is just as important as if it comes from a scientific journal.
Also, in the last few years we've seen at least one study removed from journal without peer review b/c their findings conflict with some very powerful interests.
In other cases imperfect placebos may be used to make the results appear more desirable so reading studies published in journals is only the first step in research. Verifying the credibility if the research is the hard part.
Finally I'd like to recommend a site I've used, fungi.com , they offer finished products but they also offer kits to get you started growing your own medicinal and culinary mushrooms. I didn't see the "gypsy mushroom" there though.
Big fan. You're the reason we watch the show. You're a source of inspiration and motivation for my kids... probably desensitization to what most people they know would find abnormal in these parts. Your a reason to talk about all the great reasons people choose to live the way you do. I never watch reality tv but make the exception for your show. Keep up the good work and thank Amelia for us too. I'm sure choosing to be on the show wasn't a decision taken lightly but we're glad you did it.
Once the rest of the family find out your here I might be back with questions for now just thanks.
Tiny doesn't have the internet. Has probably been winging it for some time. Is it perfect? No, but it's probably the best example of permaculture on tv. I'm sure the pros here can find a lot that they're doing wrong...
And as to Tony and Amelia being poorly clothed for work, they get there clothes from boxes people leave on the side of the road for them. You know the saying... if I was going to comment on their clothing it would have been when they were collecting be swarms. That was hilarious.
I was just thinking about what aetna said in their last post and I have to give the producers more credit. For example they'll show Tony saving pee in a bucket and using it as fertilizer. They could leave it at that but instead they show some statistics about how many times people flush a toilet per day and how many thousands of gallons of clean water that wastes per year per person.
Or they'll give some factoids about factory farmed meat when someone's hunting.
Their goal isn't too make these people look completely crazy or they wouldn't provide this info.
"They tend to make a mockery of homesteaders and survivalists, and make light of real success, and capitalize on mistakes and failures to discourage the population from trying to escape their gilded cage."
They definitely try to make the show more dramatic and gross than it needs to be but I don't think this show would discourage anyone already interested in any of the lifestyles shown. It's fairly impartial and missy of the obstacles that come up are followed by solutions. If anything, as any earlier poster mentioned, they make the solutions appear easier and faster than reality.
One character, that lives in the swamp of Georgia had his "cabin" burn down early on. He mourns the loss of it but part of his segment since has been him moving on like it's no big deal and rebuilding.
I don't know if that's NG's reasoning, that might be it whether your assumption is true or not, I have no "PDC" certification, but I do have a horticultural degree and I wouldn't hesitate to use the terms permaculture or agriculture to describe something I was doing. Not that I would ever do agriculture. Let's keep it semi sustainable right?
Plenty of farmers are doing agriculture and calling it that without a college degree. Many are doing horticulture as well...
That being said, maybe a show or network would be concerned about liability or something like that so your idea might not be that far off.
Thorn does do things the hard way but I think that's what my daughter and I like about his segment. Seeing someone attempt to do things like that is impressive even if he fails. I would never attempt to live like he does unless I had no choice.
Tony and Amelia on the other hand are somewhat inspirational. Makes me wish for a show that was all permies.
Yeah, agriculturist is do far from what he is and what he's doing. You don't do agriculture on 1.5 acres. He seems like a smart guy, or at least like he does his research. I think it's unlikely he'd describe himself like that.