I haven't read the whole thread but the point of having a fire inside the middle of the tandor floor is to send radiant heat in all directions to the surface of the tandor so that you can cook naan or whatever on the walls of the tandor. If you feed heat in from a side then the heat will not be directed symmetrically to the walls making cooking interesting!
At least seven relatively large-scale case studies have reported the clinical features of patients with COVID-19.1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 In this Comment, we assess how the liver is affected using the available case studies and data from The Fifth Medical Center of People's Liberation Something or other General Hospital, Beijing, China. These data indicate that 2–11% of patients with COVID-19 had liver comorbidities and 14–53% cases reported abnormal levels of alanine aminotransferase and aspartate aminotransferase (AST) during disease progression (table). Patients with severe COVID-19 seem to have higher rates of liver dysfunction.
Liver damage in patients with coronavirus infections might be directly caused by the viral infection of liver cells. Approximately 2–10% of patients with COVID-19 present with diarrhoea, and SARS-CoV-2 RNA has been detected in stool and blood samples.11 This evidence implicates the possibility of viral exposure in the liver. Both SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV bind to the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor to enter the target cell,7 where the virus replicates and subsequently infects other cells in the upper respiratory tract and lung tissue; patients then begin to have clinical symptoms and manifestations. Pathological studies in patients with SARS confirmed the presence of the virus in liver tissue, although the viral titre was relatively low because viral inclusions were not observed.3
Trace Oswald wrote:The other side of this is that there are currently existing drugs showing real promise against the virus, including the treatment of people that are already critically ill. Kaletra and Hydroxychloroquine are two of them.
Until someone publishes a controlled series of their outcomes then this is just hearsay.
There's a group in Australia saying this combination effectively treated their patients but until they publish somewhere ...
Jérôme Salomon, a top official at the French health ministry, said the situation was “deteriorating very quickly.” He told France Inter radio on Monday that many people did not seem to be taking calls for social distancing seriously, and he tried to dispel the notion that the virus seriously threatens only the elderly. There are 300 to 400 people in intensive care in France, he said, and roughly half of them are under age 65.
China is a mass surveillance state that can do what it wants and the populace has to abide by that.
At one stage every resident in Wuhan was reporting their daily temperatures by app.
Other regions were sending you alerts if you had been in near proximity to an infected person, and grading your risk.
Even if you took a taxi through an area an infected person lived, your status changed.
South Korea were doing drive by testing, and isolating whole cities.
Taiwan started controlling the border as soon as the disease was announced. They didn't believe the reports and went to Wuhan themselves where they made their own assessments, and escalated their response which is why they had so few deaths.
Iran is a basket case because religious authorities blocked infection control measures like closing off the city of Qom, reassuring the populace to participate in elections, and just ignore the virus. They have mass grave pits dug and they're covering the bodies in lime.
Catie George wrote:
We currently have about 80 000 cases worldwide, outside of China. It takes about 1 month to kill.
That's likely to be the case with full medical support.
But people in Wuhan were dying at home because there were no hospital beds to treat them.
I'd imagine the same could happen everywhere a govt has failed to enact public health measures early enough to flatten the curve of infection.
Lorinne Anderson wrote:Math is not my strong suit...if 20% get ill, and only 1:5 of those get ill enough to die, that is still a very small number. I prefer to have my glass "half full" and focus on the majority (over 80%) who will suffer little to no ill effects.
And that's why we have vaccinations, to protect the vulnerable. And when we don't have any vaccination, we then isolate the vulnerable.
Lorinne Anderson wrote:My husband health and age are such we have self isolated since last week.
That's a very good idea.
Lorinne Anderson wrote:
Yet, I still feel 80% of the population will have minimal to no symptoms if they contract the virus, most folk have nothing to worry about, and for most folks this has become a PANICdemic, and folks are being hysterical.
If everyone stays home if they have a fever/dry cough, and simply follows basic hygiene, social distancing, and don't touch their faces, we should all be fine.
That's very harsh. This virus has no known antidote, kills in high numbers in the elderly ( over 14% ), has a high rate of asymptomatic transmission, and no vaccine. The various govts are giving very mixed messaging .. see the USA for example. In this case of conflicting information, very poor leadership, people are responding as rationally as they can which is to hunker down with enough provisions to last.
Household members should clean hands often, including immediately after removing gloves and after contact with an ill person, by washing hands with soap and water for 20 seconds. If soap and water are not available and hands are not visibly dirty, an alcohol-based hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol may be used. However, if hands are visibly dirty, always wash hands with soap and water.
For [surface] disinfection, diluted household bleach solutions, alcohol solutions with at least 70% alcohol, and most common EPA-registered household disinfectants should be effective.
Alcohols such as ethanol are well-known antimicrobial agents and were first recommended for the treatment of hands in 1888. The highest antimicrobial efficacy can be achieved with ethanol (60% to 85%), isopropanol (60% to 80%), and n-propanol (60% to 80%). The activity is broad and immediate. Ethanol, the most common alcohol ingredient, appears to be the most effective against viruses; whereas, the propanols have a better bactericidal activity than ethanol.
Graham Chiu wrote:Ibuprofen may not be recommended as it degrades the immune response.
The advice is to just stick to acetominophen/paracetamol.
I have seen discussion of this by several practicing docs who are unconvinced that the immune response degradation is of clinically-significant extent. As in, the degradation can be measured, but they don't have any clinical evidence that it's enough to affect medical outcomes.
I got my information from a CDC webinar held a couple of days ago.
Dan Boone wrote:
Balanced against which is, apparently, some (not a conclusive amount) of evidence that covid-19 patients are experiencing hepatic (liver) strain/damage. So acetaminophen (which comes with liver toxicity) is also of concern.
NSAIDs are one of the most common causes of hepatitis. I'd stick to acetaminophen in the recommended doses.
In patients with end-stage liver disease, adverse events from analgesics are frequent, potentially fatal, and often avoidable. Severe complications from analgesia in these patients include hepatic encephalopathy, hepatorenal syndrome, and gastrointestinal bleeding, which can result in substantial morbidity and even death. In general, acetaminophen at reduced dosing is a safe option. In patients with cirrhosis, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs should be avoided to avert renal failure
About 1:10 infections are from people who are infected by asymptomatic patients. Because they think they're well, they are acting normally and so potentially spreading this bug more.
The highest viral shedding is in the pre-symptomatic phase.
Once you're symptomatic your immune system is helping shut down viral numbers and so you shed less virus.
It doesn't appear to be passed by the fecal route.
Cough induction for sputum collection is being advised against as it aerolizes the virus into the environment. This was from a CDC webinar.
I guess you haven't met the space age tech that is used in some of the rocket mass heaters here. Tlud stoves, like the one I used, emerged from the stoves mailing list to help develop clean cooking for the third world where clean air trumps stone age living.
Rebecca, I don't see any reports of my issue with this type of oven over a gas grill. So, how can a 5" batch box be hotter than 3 burners on a gas grill?
William, I'd like to see your setup. The original Bakerstone pizza box has stone on the floor, roof, and sides. There's only a thin gap at the rear which lets the heat in but I presume that the floor of the box is also heated by gas.
I'm going to try a commercial pizza dough to see if that is the issue. I can't see why changing from butane to wood gas makes such a difference. More likely it's a mea culpa with the dough.
Those little camp stoves don't have enough of a chimney effect to pull oxygen into the fire so it seems reasonable to me to use a fan. Does the biolite recharge its own battery using the Peltier effect?
If you need to use a fan then the draft isn't correct which may mean not enough oxygen is getting to the fire.
Soot burns at over 1112 deg F but you will deposit soot at the beginning of the fire along the exhaust path, and surely it will remain there as those temperatures are only reached in the burn chamber and riser.
Is the system smoking outside at all during the burn as opposed to just the beginning?
My 5 minute riser deposits soot as the fire starts up but as the fire gets going the soot burns off again.