Military surplus desert clothes work well for me in Texas, especially pants. I will buy any nations surplus clothing except USA because I haven't served in the military.
Desert clothing made for military use is tough, light, and designed for high temp environments. There are a lot of overpriced sellers out there. A little effort with a search engine can find great deals online. A good local surplus store can be great resource.
Just our experience- we have 23 Nigerian dwarf goats along with 24 chickens, 174 goslings and 17 head of cattle on 50 acres in Texas. Our goats will happily browse our 4-5 acres of woods, but will also spend days on pasture even with free access to the woods. We find our Nigerian dwarf goats to be very adaptable, they do not necessarily always prefer to browse, they will graze also.
For a while I used a company in Texas www.escapees.com for my address instead of 'moving' legally to a sublet apartment in Austin. Escapees is designed for people who live in RV's, I was able to get a driver license, use it for my address for my employment, and everything else a usual address allows. They have a reasonable cost mail forwarding service that can be configured to send to you anytime, anywhere depending on your needs. When I went there and set it up they claimed that their ability to stand as legal residence for members was challenged in court and Escapees won.
If I remember South Dakota has a similar setup and maybe other states. Texas and a few other states have no income tax.
Leila Rich wrote:
Johnny Cash. Makes me cry every time I hear it
Was the Jonny Cash song 'Hurt'? (your link is to a now deleted account). Trent Reznor had serious reservations when he heard Cash wanted to cover Hurt, but gave his blessing after seeing this video by Cash:
I use copper washers and old pennies (newer pennies seem to have lower quality metal) to label trees, I hang the label with bare copper electric wire. I use a 3 alpha code, but with larger washers you could stamp out longer written names.
I see incredible value here for what you are asking. The forum threads from the last 1.5 years prepare any potential buyer with more details than any conventional real estate listing could ever hope to.
So no bids? OK, I'm gonna pitch an alternative strategy but I'll need help.
The assumptive punch list:
• you guys are in a place in your life where you are ready to make a move. that's cool, I have no interest in asking the age old "soooo... Why are you selling?" Question, it doesn't matter to me.
• You need the money to facilitate this next move. I get that.
The non-assumptive punch list:
• You will both continue to be awesome. I have no question that this is the case.
• you have done a staggering amount of impressive work with very low capitalization and shared the journey, I can't thank you enough for that.
• Realizing I don't have $800 to open the bidding, nor do I have the time to go to the Lab if I did, I slept on this situation with the specific question: "Hey Josh, what can you spend $100 on at your farm that could do more good for the world than what these two have proved they can do?" I woke up satisfied that there wasn't anything I could think of to answer that question.
So the pitch:
• I will commit $100 to you.
• I ask only that you document your future adventures in a way similar to what you have done here. I do not require this documentation. You choose the platform and regularity that you post, or if you post at all.
•You maintain the control of the improvements at the lab, and keep any money or barter you get from managing those improvements. This offer stands and will be honored even if you get bids over $800 for the improvements, no strings attached. I'll support you with my pledge even if you find a buyer.
• Just to be clear - this is a one way commitment, I'll paypal it ASAP if you want.
•I said above I'd need help. If anyone else feels the same and can in any way join in please do. Either commit here or Purple Moosage these guys directly, or ask them for direct email, etc. Please consider doing what you can. $1/$5/$20 (and up) can really stack up and make a difference to two proven leaders who have shown what can be done with grit and commitment.
When I was taking a course with Sepp Holzer in Montana he taught us to smack the logs really hard with a stout stick (club) when they just start to fruit. The shock is supposed to somehow cause a vigorous flush of growth, but I didn't understand the explanation when Holzer's translator told us why this happens.
Would you consider trying this log smacking method with one log and letting me know if it worked for you? My farm is in Central Texas, I haven't tried mushrooms yet.
I really appreciate your enthusiastic dialogue, thank you.
It helps to have the google goggles (things as viewed by google) considered in the discussion.
At this time I feel it makes the most sense to move this energy to Tinkering. An effort to steer and encourage those who could benefit would give the effort some momentum. Intervention of topics drifting off course because of formatting questions could direct to Tinkering with proactive effort to offer help in the form of discourse there.
In the current setup of the site the Tinkering section is the closest I see to serving the needs I addressed in the original post. I'm in agreement that it is the best place if there is a perceived need to keep the sections to a limited number.
-I haven't consistently seen posts in the general forums with posting questions be directed to tinkering, the questions are addressed in those threads.
-Tinkering has a lot of sitewide suggestions, it may feel intimidating to some to address their personal posting questions there.
-People who would benefit from Test Section posts would find one place to peruse previous interactions without searching through the higher level Tinkering posts.
-A dedicated Test Section would 'leave an open door' encouraging the opportunity of playing with post formatting without pushing in on the perceived serious business of site Tinkering.
-My ideal vision of the Test Section is a fun place where some cool learning by trial and error can happen assisted by the helpful folks here.
I'm proposing a new section under permies.com where people can freely practice posting. The back and forth with questions and answers on how to link, format etc. can occur in this section. The reason I feel there is a need for this is the recurring instances of 'how to' questions about posting in the general forums, one example is: https://permies.com/t/31696/posts-simple Permies is what I consider the safest place on the internet to ask for for help. There are people who would like to include richer content in their postings do not because they don't know how. A new section dedicated to learning the 'how to' will be a big help for these people. It would also consolidate the help efforts so someone exploring it would answer some of their questions before asking them.
Please consider getting his book 'Comeback Farms' where he describes his experience with sheep in Missouri. I encourage you read the book, go to any courses he offers and consider paying for a couple hours of consultation with Greg, the raising tips for your region and market insight will be well worth it.
In my experience it always pays off to clean the drain filter.
It can be a messy job, have a low sided container with at least a couple quart volume available, and some rags or a mop handy. If your washer is a newer model you may be lucky and have the filter accessible, but in most cases you will have to remove a panel on the lower front of the machine to access the filter. These are often small head bolts. When you access the filter get the container ready and turn the back of the filter until it unthreads and slowly pull it out. Clean it out, replace and run a cycle before replacing the front panel. Sometimes this cleanup brings a seemingly dying machine back to full use. I'm hoping that this is all you need to do.
Amateur online appliance detective theory: The water level left in the tub could be because the filter is almost 100% clogged, the head pressure from the full drum overcomes the clogged filter and drains for a while but the low pressure at the end of the drain cycle can't push through the clog.
Everyone still reading should consider this simple maintenance on their washing machine, even if they are in good working order keeping a clean drain filter can avoid future issues.
I'd love to find some local crafted non GMO whiskey but the goal is elusive. I've settled in to Wild Turkey, as it is one of the rare non-gmo production whiskeys. It used to be listed on the label as non GMO but the backlash from their GMO suffering customers caused them to remove that statement. Wild Turkey is surprisingly palatable on the rock (2" square ice cube). I'm low key with nightcaps 2 drinks is a big night, as such I can budget for more expensive local craft options if they were only available. On the GMO subject I've almost entirely written off beer. Assumptions can be made when choosing beer but it takes diligence to sort out who is making the microbrews, many of them have been bought by bigger companies who use GMO to make them. They keep the folksy labels so the public doesn't know the ownership changed. And some microbrews could be using GMO anyway even if they are a small company.
Just my pondering:
What are you using for a ground? In your switch to AC you may need a more robust ground than a DC charger needs. My AC system has six 8' long 5/8" diameter ground rods and facilitates a a full pop anywhere on our land.
If I was in this situation I would hard pen them and run hot wires penning off one edge. The lower hot wire would have peanut butter or something else delicious smeared on it. The zap from a mouth contacting a hot wire using a modern low impedance is infinitesimally short but should be unforgettable. I would then move to putting some desirable food behind the hot wires. When the pigs stopped trying to breach this fence I would have the confidence to move them to electric paddocks.
Sorry t hear you lost your chargers. I use coils and a lightning diverter ground field (seven 8' long 5/8" diameter rods) to help protect against lightning strikes, knowing anything is possible I have a smaller backup charger in my shop just in case. It is and AC/DC charger and I have a deep cell marine battery on trickle charger ready to power it if the grid is down. I subscribe to the maxim: 'Two is one, one is none.'
If you make it as far up the coast of Maine to reach Deer Isle then I would suggest the Deer Isle Hostel. It is a hostel based in a hard working homestead. As I'm fairly familiar with it I could type for a while to describe it for you, but these links will do a great job:
For a nominal fee you can stay at and immerse yourself in just what you described, the resources here from the buildings to the gardens and potluck meals are the best exposure I can think of.
I will try to log in later and fix the links formatting on my computer, but there is spotty cellphone internet at my farm so it may take me a while (I'm typing on my phone). You should be able to copy/paste the links in to your web browser for now.
More years have passed since the years of my recollections than my age was at that time. The time in this musing doesn't matter to me though, what I recall is timeless. My circle of friends growing up on an island in coastal Maine crossed over Obie's circle of friends. In the late 1980's into the 1990's this region was rich with strong traditional local fishing families (my stock) and creative, artistic, worldly folk who settled there because of the natural beauty and the local folk who while a bit xenophobic accepted all as who they were. The xenophobic and 'salt of the earth' local families actually attracted many rich/famous people to the region, if we had heard of or recognized rich/famous people we didn't really care who they were and left them alone. We had to take our lobster boats out to the bay at 4:00 every morning, having our world that they couldn't connect to made theirs seem like no big deal. Those folks could live a normal life, gas up their old 'Maine car' and get groceries without being asked for an autograph. The crossover between the two groups were the artistic families like Obie's who had a connection to both worlds. Obie and I were present at the same place probably less than a dozen times but my memories of these times are cherished. I remember he had an amazing family, the surprises never seemed to stop (Everyone in his immediate family seemed to have names that hadn't been used since the 1700's), (the family makes fireworks??) ((his brother was one of the strongest men on the coast and didn't fight?? (In the context of a kid from a fishing family this was a profound revelation at the time)). Through interaction with Obie's crowd my musical horizons expanded, I learned to appreciate art and was exposed to other cultures. What I'm trying to express here is that any opportunity to work with Obie is more than an opportunity to learn his amazing work, it is an opportunity to connect with a person and place that could be life altering. It was for me.
Miles I don't see any issues with sharp edges when using with cattle. I've seen my neighbors cattle using barbed wire fence to scratch themselves, the IBC trough edges are relatively blunt in direct comparison. Immediately after cutting, I ran a shop towel along the cut plastic to keep any small bits of plastic out of the drinking water, that edge is not sharp. I didn't smooth out the cut steel edges, but they are not that sharp either, though sharper than the plastic. I would make sure to smooth the edges if I was going to use them for mini pools for ducks, geese, or any other smaller livestock. 80 grit sandpaper on an orbital sander would make quick work of smoothing the plastic. A lightly applied flapper disk on an angle grinder should round out the steel edges.
Intermediate Bulk Containers (known as IBC totes) are ubiquitous to the majority of industries in the USA. IBC’s are typically 275 gallon or 330 gallon capacity. IBC’s are commonly used only once to ship everything from vinegar to industrial chemicals from origination of the product to the end user. After they are used they are bought up by resellers and sold empty on the open market, craigslist has them listed in most markets.
IBC Totes at 1880 Farm
One issue I have when buying IBC’s from a large company is the concern that when hundreds or thousands of IBC’s are bought and sold it may be impossible to properly track each one in the process. I need to ensure that the IBC’s I bring in are food grade as chemical residue could harm livestock or the land. For this reason, I prefer to deal with small vendors who can guarantee the previous contents were food grade. I’m lucky enough to be working with a man named Steve who only sources IBC’s from one bakery. Case in point- vinegar is often used to hide the smell of something else a container held. Vinegar is shipped in new IBC containers using red caps on the top, if your seller claims vinegar with any other color cap IBC this could be a case where they are hiding something with the vinegar smell. All the red cap IBC’s I buy from Steve obviously smell like vinegar, the other color ones do not. Caveat Emptor: know and trust your IBC tote source.
Potential uses of IBC totes on farm are endless from water storage, rain barrels, to aquaculture/aquaponics. I recently purchased a 75 gallon stock tank/water trough and paid almost $70 for it at the feed store. I decided to cut one of my 275 gallon IBC’s in to 2 tanks, one being approximately 150 gallons and the other roughly 100 (my cut wasn’t laser straight so I’m estimating slightly less volume for reckoning purpose). As I paid less than $70 for the IBC tote, it was like buying a larger 100 gallon tank for cheaper than the 75 gallon tank and getting an effectively ‘free’ 150 gallon tank to go with it.
Here is the process I used:
Mark the cut line prior to removing from cage, remove top bars
Remove plastic section from cage
Cut cage and plastic with sawzall
Put top bars back on upper section and put plastic back in cage
Easily move containers around pasture with large wheeled dolly, or one could use pallet forks on their tractor in the built in pallet.
I choose to make the lower section of the IBC the larger trough because it has a valve at the base making it easy to drain or add a float valve if wanted. I can manually dump the smaller container made from the top half. The metal cage adds a level of durability that the all plastic feed store trough lacks, one excited cow in the pasture could wreck the uncaged trough.
From Left: Black 75 gallon feed store trough, blue tub with salt and minerals (Thorvin Kelp), 150 gallon IBC trough, 100 gallon IBC trough
Above shows difference in containers. Small calves can’t reach the water in the 150 gallon trough, but can easily use the 100 gallon one. the 150 gallon trough is higher not only because of the larger volume, it also has the incorporated metal pallet at the base. Take note that the galvanized steel cage will definitely conduct the electrical charge from an electric fence, this was confirmed by not paying attention when tipping it off the dolly. Logistically it means that I need to plan my daily pasture rotation using these troughs slightly off my polywire so they don’t ground out the system.
All in all I highly recommend chopping a food grade IBC for cattle water as a durable and economic option for your farm.
Trees that I ordered from Jiovi arrived this morning. All 60 trees I ordered look great, they are just coming out of dormancy. Roots were bagged with moist shredded paper to keep them from drying out. The trees bend easily (Not like the brittle suffering specimens seen at box stores). They are labelled properly and shipped with planting instructions. This is well appreciated (by me) as several amazon orders of plants I recently made shipped with no tags at all. As I had 4 different varieties of comfrey and a bunch of other plants coming many different vendors it was a bit of a project to figure out what the unlabeled varieties were when they arrived. A couple times I had to search my amazon account using the tracking number on the box to identify what was what. Jiovi won't do this to you, their trees were packaged right.
And here they are soaking (My 3 alpha code applied):
I'm going to put them in a shaded 'nursery' part of the yard until autumn as Texas will be seriously harsh weather wise very soon. They will get transplanted out to windbreaks in the pastures when it cools off.
All in all I highly recommend Jiovi- Great looking trees packaged professionally, and very fast delivery from order to arrival. Jiovi delivered on their part of the deal 100%. Anything that happens from here forward is my part.
Hey Austin- my reply is my opinion, it is based in 14 years experience working in the oil and gas industry. I would strongly discourage you from using this tank for irrigation purposes. Even if you identify the type of fuel previously stored in the tank that is just the tip of iceberg of potential issues. Most industry tanks and vessels are treated in their service life with an array of highly toxic chemicals in addition to the product stored. Biocide is a particularly nasty one, I won't get in to it too deep, but consider the the Latin root is roughly transliterated as 'death to life'. Biocide is used because a surprising amount of unwanted growth can occur in process systems. Fuel stabilizers, conditioners and other additives add another realm of chemical possibilities. An unexpectedly deadly amount of hydrogen sulfide (H2S) can be entrapped within internal sidewall corrosion via anaerobic digestion that lies latent until disturbed. For perspective the OSHA allowed exposure to a worker is only 10 parts per million weighted over an 8 hour shift. This stuff is so insidious that crews I worked with would stop work if any amount of H2S was detected with our meters. H2S can be smelled (similar to rotten eggs) at low levels, higher levels kill the sense of smell and people die because they think they can always smell it. It takes metering to be sure. This is a large tank, please don't ever allow anyone to go inside or put their face in it or allow pets/animals to access just in case.
I'm not trying to be a downer in this situation, you have an otherwise substantial piece of infrastructure that I personally would not feel comfortable using for anything other than fuel storage, but I would never need that much fuel. If it could safely be stripped to bare shiny 'see your reflection in it' metal via mechanical means or sandblasting internally then I may be in the conversation to think otherwise. But that would be another effort fraught with expensive controls to ensure it was done safely, properly and ethically. In the current state I would consider at most using it to contain a bladder for my irrigation water that kept the water from contacting the internal surface of the tank and set it up that any bladder failure would leak out a low point so I would have indication that it was leaking. Or sell it to someone who needed a huge fuel storage tank.
Thanks Wayne - I didn't realize that horse apples were Osage orange, thanks for the heads up. Pecans will feature quite prominently here also, but I really want to see if I can get some chestnuts going. Spending time on Mark Shepard's place in Viola, Wisconsin really sold me on growing starch on a tree, and chestnut 🌰 is the premier species of tree starch. Even if I can just get enough for our family it's a start.
Hi Wayne- I was wondering what trees you ordered (you are just down the road from my place). I ordered Osage Orange, Russian Mulberry, Black Walnut and Chinese Chestnut. We are zone 8b, I'm pretty sure the Chestnut tops out at zone 8 but I had to try some. I'm a little worried about getting the trees established as summer is coming fast, but hopefully watering will keep them alive the first year 🤞. Do you have any tips for late spring planting here (this is my first season in farming in Texas). I placed order late last night and already have tracking number.
O.K. so I must admit that I found out about this via clickbait, but wound up on a real story in the Denver Post (same story is reprinted almost verbatim all over the AP). While reading I was thinking to myself, how cool would it be if a Permie or group of Permies got a whole town and made a full on transition town out of it? To my surprise it was written right there in the article that it WAS going to be just that in some capacity:
"The potential buyers have said through the seller’s broker that they intend to turn the school into some type of campus and create a “permaculture” development that respects the town’s remaining residents and its picturesque setting in a bend in the emerald-tinted South Umpqua River." Source - same link as above
Now I'm excited. Understandably the buyers are remaining anonymous to the press, but how cool is this? In support of efforts like this (especially a trailblazing one) I'm in high hopes that they can establish a business model that I can support in some way. Maybe make a point to source some plant cuttings or who knows what from them in the future.
This is a huge undertaking and I really hope that it succeeds, imagine the reinvigoration of all the 'dying' small towns in the US coming back to life in a regenerative way?
Tyler I'm so sorry. We have never met, but you have been and continue to be a key source of inspiration and information to my efforts getting a central Texas farm off the ground.
Please update as you feel comfortable, here's to wishing you strength and success with a very difficult position to be in. And please let us know if we can help in any way (we being all of us who visit your contributions here on Permies).
I looked at links on your map in the Austin, TX area and most of them do not work on my iPad. Looking closer it seems like the links default "https://". By removing the 's' from "http" manually the linked websites worked. Does your submission form defaults to 'https://'?
Interesting, I haven't heard about Purse before now.
Timing can be key with camelcamelcamel- I literally 'bottom fish' for the best deals, they typically don't last long. I recently (within a few months) missed a really low dip on a grain grinder I'm tracking because I didn't react quickly enough to my email from camel, the price was back up when I opened the link.
I would consider using Purse for items that don't have any historic really low dips, and track items that do have a history of low dips in camel and try to get the next dip. What are your thoughts on this?
I'm sorry, I don't have specific solutions for cleaning your water, my work on learning sand filtration is just beginning, I only know it as a new concept.
Closing eyes and dreaming:
With under 40 cm average rain, every drop is precious to rebuilding the groundwater. It would take every land owner to get involved to make a change. Water spread from the highest valleys to ridges in every way possible, from keyline to swales with a building up of organic matter. Water for human use captured from roofs (and ran through a sand filter?), ground wells made illegal, accept the springs that eventually come to the surface as a gift of fresh water but don't drill down and pull it out.
Opening eyes to the current:
Grass roots movements to work toward the above. Look at what Holzer did in Greening the Desert and Neil Spackman's work in Saudi Arabia. Your needs and situation are unique. Studying how other 'unconventional' efforts have afforded real change in difficult areas- mimic what fits your context and draw inspiration to create your own solutions from the rest.
To start, let's work with possible definitions for camel:
Camel [kam-uh l] /ˈkæm əl/
• Word Origin
1. either of two large, humped, ruminant quadrupeds of the genus Camelus, of the Old World.
Compare Bactrian camel, dromedary.
Or a personal definition: (In Triplicate) A website that tracks the cost of items on amazon.com
Hmmm, I wonder which of the uses of camel will be discussed here as a way to cut homestead (or farm, or personal) costs? I am referring to www.camelcamelcamel.com the website that tracks historic and current prices of items on Amazon.
Most of us have a wish list of items that we would love to have for our work. In my context this list consists of heirloom quality devices and tools that are mostly low tech that can make a real difference in our efforts of homesteading and farming. Our list doesn't have plastic or shiny doodads, it has well made, durable, time tested tools that can leverage our work efforts with more efficient results. With this quality comes inevitable higher cost, I simply cannot afford to buy everything on this list now. I found a way to get the costs reduced by using camelcamelcamel to tell me when things on my list are on sale. Note (and this is really important): I always try to work with smaller vendors whenever possible, there are active members of this forum that I have purchased items from. Sometimes I do buy things from amazon, this posing is to share how I do it for less money.
Have you ever noticed an item in an amazon wish list has a notation that a price went up or down? It happens all the time, but the changes I typically notice are not by much, say a few percentage points up or down. The prices on Amazon can move in much bigger swings, and there is a way to be notified when they come way down. I created a free account at camelcamelcamel and set alerts for prices for items for our farm.
This is a screen shot of camelcamelcamel in action:
Check out the big price swings of this beautiful All American 41 1/2 quart pressure cooker/canner I tracked at camelcamelcamel:
Notice the lowest dip on the chart of $328.91? This is where the Camel really made a difference, by sending me an email to let me know my tracked price was met, this is a screen shot of that email:
Next I jumped on amazon and made the purchase:
By using camelcamelcamel I was able to get a tool that my children will fight over at a price that really made a difference to our tight budget. Had I logged in to Amazon and bought at the $464 range that it bounced around in for months it would have reduced our budget by $135 (Because I got it for $329). This goes a long way in helping us afford other tools.
This strategy works for items that we have time to wait for, but I also use camelcamelcamel to check costs of other smaller purchases that are needed sooner, just to see where it is in the price roller coaster. There have been instances where I've switched to a different brand of something smaller because the initial one I looked at was at an all-time high price.
I need your help. I've been consumed by my thoughts for hours working on an idea of how to work on property scale Permaculture designs right here in the forums. I think it can be done. I fully respect that a quality in person design is hard to replicate online, but that is not the goal. The cost of the online group collaboration would be a fraction of an in person design, my perception of the efforts that I feel will be made for that cost will be of a value that exceeds that cost by a long shot. I feel that if designs are created here and the resources and connections from those efforts are leveraged in a in person consultation the net win will be amazing for the resultant design.
I scrapped 3 efforts to turn my notes in to a post, so I'm going to copy/paste my notes below. I feel they are a starting point that can be worked on together to create a functional Permies forum based Permaculture Design process. Kind of like how I feel the designs themselves will grow...
This is a Pie and other compensation for efforts model, as described in my notes below.
Here are my notes (The bullet point format didn't play well, I'm on my tablet so can look in to fixing later on my computer)
• Inspiration for my idea is from online bid for business design sites like 99designs.com or crowdspring.com but the difference here is the work is visible for all to see.
• Projects are open for a defined amount of time
• Set amount of pie to be awarded
• Disclaimer: Accept that this is an experiment, I'm hoping for better than expected participation and results but those posting rewards for projects need to be in a position to accept the sum of any and all work done for them with impunity (Don't be a sassy pants and write: "I DIDN’T GET MY 10 PIES WORTH!" I remain convinced that value will be received but it will not be guaranteed. Once the project is posted then the rewards should be committed on the closing date regardless. The cost of work done for the project owner on average will be way less than the cost of an in person design, and we will all learn from it. We all get 10 pies worth of knowledge on Permies every day for free as it is.
• Extra pie is allowed of course, but committed pie must be given out.
• Feedback for pie given is highly encouraged, where did you find value?
• Communicate with moderators prior to offering additional rewards so they can ensure it is a legitimate opportunity.
• Pie for the design should ideally be purchased prior to posting the project, this helps moderators see a commitment from those who post projects.
• Allowed to award special gifts to Ants and Paul as part of the award structure.
○ Example: This design will award 12 pies (144 delicious pieces of pie) to contributors as the original poster sees fit, as well as five $20 gift cards. This project closes and all pie and gift cards will be awarded by Feb. 1 2017.
○ In addition the original poster will send the Wheaton Lab Ants a V grafter from New Farm Supply and send Paul Wheaton a hand embroidered 'DUKE OF PERMACULTURE" pie cooking apron in honor of the collaborative efforts of the Permies community on this project.
• If you can't afford a hundred pieces of pie and $200 in tool gift certificates to reward the effort but still have a design need, don't despair. This is an awesome group of people. Get as much pie as you can afford and explain your situation when you post your project, I'm willing to bet you will get valuable work toward your goal. Your gratitude goes a long way!
• Allowed to get creative with awards but must be pre-approved by mods prior to posting.
• Call this Forum section The Oven ?
• Oven Sections:
○ Permaculture Design
§ Open Permaculture Design projects and pre-approved other award projects
□ Title should include brief project description, location, and closing date.
□ OP first post to be as detailed as possible to the project. You will get better results as much details as you are comfortable posting online. Purple Moosages with information that you don't want public to your key designers could be an effective way of keeping a level of privacy.
® Annual rain
® Soil types
® Water resources
□ OP follow up posts to fill in more details as needed, this is an ongoing group collaboration.
§ Closed Pie Projects
□ Projects that have ended and Pie has been awarded. The ability to post will still be available and everyone can read them but no pie will be awarded after closing date
§ Other award section pending approval
□ This is section that offers more than pie as a reward and needs mod approval prior to going live in the open section. Note that regardless of offered incentive you must award at least some pie.
○ Small projects
§ While it is possible to include smaller projects in this model, I feel it is in the spirit of Permies to keep helping each other on a small scale as we do. My proposal is to reward the scale of hard work on larger projects rather than include small projects. A property design takes a lot more work than an herb garden, incentives to reward this work are commensurate with the extra effort that is requested.
• Elements of a full design can be of value, as can specific suggestions, pie can be sliced accordingly .
• Folks here can practice honing their design skills with interactive feedback, the skills building is a value aside from the quest for pie or other loot on offer
• Anyone can jump in a design and give pie where they want! See work that really impresses you? Reward it. Pie falling from the sky!
• This effort can increase the overall design skills of everyone involved. As the permaculture design skills of many can be honed, the overall quality of designs should increase. This is a win for those doing the designs, those receiving their design, and the movement as a whole.
• I personally find value in perspectives just as often as specifics. What an opportunity to see a myriad of perspectives.
• Maybe a real connection grows between a project owner and a designer. This would be awesome! The rewards could be gifted per the project and the owner and designer can make whatever agreement offline to continue a higher level of work together after it closes. This process could help people find those who resonate with their needs. Sometimes amazing designers don't fit just because personalities and perspectives aren't a perfect fit for the project owner. This process could ensure those working together were a good fit before an agreement to do an onsite design was made.
• Have fun with it!
Have you considered adding another letter? (Create a 4 Letter system, AAAA, AAAB, AAAC, etc.). While adding just one letter my math shows it would go from 15,600 unique tags to over 350,000 just by adding the 4th letter. If I ever use all of my 15,600 in my system by tracking more than 15,600 plants I will add the 4th letter and keep going at that time. I feel that on my scale this will take years unless I start a hybridization project where I track lineage. Is this why you would need more codes, are you hybridizing?
[Drumroll] Drumroll here [/Drumroll].... (Paul Wheaton does permies.com support in forum drumroll?)
This system allows for 1 cent plant tags! The copper washer idea I started with cost 10 cents each, by stamping pennies the cost comes to 1 cent per tag, I just need to drill a hole in the penny to hang it.
These 3 tags are assigned to Bocking 14 Comfrey at our farm, to be planted in 3 different beds
These tags are yet to be assigned, they will go to the next 4 plants or trees we get this winter (I need to drill hole in pennies to hang them)
These are the 'Tools of the Trade' that I use to punch the code
For those of us who did not go to PV3- The lectures are available for purchase online. I found the broadacre videos to be an amazing deal at $99 - I was so happy with them that At my blog I compared the PV3 videos favorably to some amazing courses I've attended in person. Respectfully nothing compares to live training, but from a value perspective the PV3 videos kick ass.
If you want to bypass my opinions in my blog you can go straight to the tap: Permaculture Voices Shop scroll down and you will find the PV3 media as well as other great content.
I'd love to see a new section titled: "The Bushel Basket"
That's right: every apple awarded post in chronological order, with link to the original forum. I know I'd be inclined to scroll through and get inspiration from apple posts!
And while I'm dreaming, how about another new section titled: "Mmmmm Good!"
That's right: Every pie awarded post in chronological order with links to the original forum. Digital gluttony guiltlessly indulged! It would be nice to see where posts made such a difference that they were rewarded with a delicious financial gesture of appreciation. Some of these posts are not always the profound ones, but are recognized as they come from and express sincere empathy, it lends a very unique (connected?) feeling to a forum website.
One thing that comes to mind is to support others who are practicing the principles. An example is to find someone who is producing in a Permaculture system and buy food from them. Another is to buy from one of those many people in the world who have never heard of the word Permaculture but have an uncanny way of embracing the foundation by growing in a natural, sustainable way just because it is who they are. Build social capital while supporting the value of these important pioneers.
When I was at a Sepp Holzer training course in Montana Sepp was told about a local man named Dale who had an abundance of perennial food plants on his 1 acre property, and could be a potential source of locally adapted plants. Dale was happy to share his surplus. A crew of volunteers went with Holzer to dig these plants for the project we were working on. Dale's place was a mini paradise of bootstrapped success, a beyond organic expression of his life's efforts, it was truly stunning.
Holzer added a lecture to the training syllabus to honor Dale and what he created. In front of 60 people I listened as the the translator told us of Sepp Holzer's declaration that Dale was one of the most important Permaculturalists in North America. Dale had just that week been introduced to the word, he naturally embraced it without ever hearing it. He probably never could have dreamed of this moment. Many others deserve this level of recognition, one way we can offer it is to reach out, tell them they have value, and support them. I think you are in a unique position to be a person who can give this recognition across the country (wherever you are posted), embrace it!
The theme of identifying and leveraging your 'unfair advantage' in a natural business keeps coming up in podcasts and books I'm working with. The idea is to work with the strengths of your region, locality and property. Applying this strategy to my context here in Central Texas: instead of lamenting the extreme summer conditions I can embrace the incredible opportunity of having two growing seasons in a single calendar year, and plan accordingly.
Thank you for this insight! Along with this seasonal observation the planting tips and techniques will be implemented in our gardens. There are literally years of wisdom in this thread.
Thank you Casie,
I'm not from Texas, but I live here now. We don't own a t.v. and I wasn't aware of this show. I went to the Central Texas Gardener homepage from your link, this is exactly the kind of resource I'm looking for to start my (home scale) gardening efforts in Texas to complement our farming efforts.
Please feel free to share any more resources like this, it is greatly appreciated.
I'm using a simple 3 letter code system to manage plant information on our farm. I needed to devise a way to keep track of what plants we have, when and where we acquired them, all of my notes on them from the field, yield information, etc. While I am tasked with being consistent using the code from tagging the plants to noting it on the scanned receipt file, in my journal, field notes, etc. I feel it will be well worth the effort. I've worked in a business that had thousands of types of garden perennials and respect the need to keep good documentation. The Alpha 3 system I've worked out will hopefully create efficiencies.
Thanks for sharing- you have a knack for delivery in front of a camera, you may be able to leverage that as a resource by developing a YouTube series of interesting farms and homesteads in Texas (you get YouTube traffic which can develop a nice financial side gig from advertising clicks, landowner gets a neat resource to share to friends/customers. Every share from a landowner to the video they recommend opens up the door for the viewer to watch all of your videos). Just a thought.
What is the drinking water situation for making the move in 2017? As you are a couple hours from where you live now to the land I'm assuming you will be changing jobs?
Greg Judy sets up electric fence on large acreage, he recommends Powerflex Polybraid and Not 100% sure but I THINK these are the posts he uses....
6" high bottom wire is ground wire, rest are hot. Best to watch his Permaculture Voices videos for more details. I'm pointing you in this direction because the fence cost you quoted in the video sounded high, Greg Judy does a lot of multi species electric fencing and needs it to be cost effective and animal containment effective.