Haven’t dated in a while, anyone other than my wife that is. After being married 12 years, we both agree that the Lord was good to us and see His workings in our lives.
We met in a Latin American dating site, as I was specifically looking to learn Spanish at the time and found a lot to admire in their culture. Now, we both speak a lot of each other’s languages and having started off with what we felt were the most important things in common (faith, views on relationships and kids, philosophy in general), life is grand. Doesn’t mean no struggles for sure, and we both have to choose to grow towards each other rather than away, or at least along complimentary paths.
Not sure what I’d do these days, other than maybe look overseas again, or also look within the faith/farming community I now belong to. Would be harder with having kids for sure.
T S Rodriguez wrote:Hi everyone,
I am growing a few groves of bamboo. Yellow and Rubro. I want to get some Bissetti sometime, but none yet. So far so good, everything is growing well, and feeding animals in the winter, according to plan.
However, bamboo is known to go to seed periodically. Nobody seems to know when exactly, and when it goes to seed, it dies. The whole grove dies. This can be devastating to communities that are based around bamboo, which would include my small livestock plans. So far my bamboo is fine, and I have never met anyone who had a grove go to seed. I am wondering if anyone has ever experienced this, and how long it took the new seeds to re-establish themselves, or any species that are immune to this cycle.
I am hoping to get at least three species established here, in the hopes that if one goes to seed, I can keep the others, etc. Are there other strategies or ideas out there for mitigating this?
I saw this and my first thought was about diversity for animal feedstock, second was if you had considered other sources of fodder? We are in northern Missouri and just planted 225 fodder trees, white mulberries, hybrid poplars and hybrid willows. Maybe set aside an area to grow some of those species for fodder with coppicing? Nick Ferguson said that some pigs can get up to 90+% of their feed from mulberry trees alone (and he likes the breed we are getting next month-Idaho Pasture Pigs!) Other animals also seem to like those varieties as they are high in protein.
This fall, the kids and I will be collecting all the hedge apples we can and freezing them to plant hedge rows next spring. Hedge also is high in protein… but, after reading this thread on bamboo I am thinking maybe we should grow some of that too, for diversity!
Just wanted to offer a possible solution for feeding animals. I don’t know much about bamboo yet, but with 31 acres I have some room to play around…
Michele Holmes wrote:Hello, I just joined this group and saw your post. Are the puppies still available?
He has two pups left, one male and one female, they will be 17 weeks old on Monday 6/16/22. I will PM you his number, he said please call and leave a message if he doesn’t hear it ring. He said they have learned a lot from mom, and are barking at critters which don’t belong. (He has goats, chickens, ducks and more… and they don’t bother his animals.)
What a fun movie to watch, especially Josiah in action climbing around and beating down the spikes. If something like this had been around when I was young and had few demands on my time I would have loved to be able to come out and spend more time at Wheaton Labs and be able to help with stuff like this. These days, kinda living vicariously through the boots and doing what I can, when I can, on our land. :)
BTW, I really got a kick out of the three cats riding on the hood of the Kubota… mine flee when I fire the tractor up!
Malek Beitinjan wrote:I have once again made a stool, and it's much larger this time. Several folks have mentioned that these stools tend to crack as they dry, so I used a very large hunk of log for the seat. It's very sturdy, thanks to the weight.
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Mike Haasl wrote:What about a parallel "Permiestarter" campaign in the digital marketplace. People can support on Kickstarter (and kickstarter gets their cut) or they can click a link and go to permies and back the project through the digital marketplace.
Then people can set up affiliate codes for the permies.com side of the project to share it around the world. The hard-as-hell part would be collecting the data needed to fulfill the non-kickstarter backers when it's all said and done.
I’d rather support through permies than Kickstarter, and deny them a cut if possible. They don’t represent me in many things. Maybe when the KS campaign launches and the early bird email goes out, set up a thread on here for pledges and levels. When the KS campaign is over, pledges could be sent through PayPal or even better the Strike app. Strike would be cheaper and could pay in dollars or Bitcoin, so more would actually make it to Paul and not some other company I don’t care about. A purple mooseage would work for sending email and street address for physical rewards…
Thoughts? Would like Paul to get the best percentage possible!
paul wheaton wrote:Not many people buy DVDs these days. And it used to be that I would have to buy a minimum of a thousand to get "the right kind."
Instead, I hope to, in time, set stuff up so that somebody will offer the movie on a DVD after it is all done. So you might get it later than everybody else, but you would get it as a physical dvd. I think.
Good point, I just got the World Domination Gardening set on DVD, but I’m an oddball and not afraid to admit it!
Maybe instead of DVDs, a thumb drive could be offered for an extra amount? I’m not a big fan of downloads or streaming personally due to at times having limited/slow bandwidth.
What an enjoyable discussion. We are about to break ground (yes in these interesting times!) on an ICF house. We bought 31 acres last summer, and while I wanted an Oehler style/wofati house, the wife wanted something more conventional looking but still very efficient.
I’d like to get ideas from those with experience living off grid on maybe combinations of some of the systems mentioned in this thread. I am going to try and cash flow the building, so will be starting with clearing a pad and mounding the topsoil for later use, pouring the footers and insulating well under the slab (in Northern MO, zone 5b), pouring ICF walls and putting on a metal roof 6/12 pitch plus windows and doors. Oh, and we’ll be putting in the tubing for a radiant floor if we choose to go that route, for a 1 story house about 40x44. Wife wants 1 bathroom working and the kitchen, then need to stop and save some more money… she said a RMH in the great room sounds great. No A/C is planned on but an attic fan.
The quotes for a possible PV system with batteries were about $30k for the 30ish year, no maintenance LiFePo4 batteries. Parts only so we install it all…
Are these smaller NiFe systems for lights workable for just all the house lights if LED? Charge/run other appliances during the day along with a more modest power bank? What else should I maybe consider? Wood heat from an RMH, NiFe system for lights, propane refrigerator or freezer(s)? As carnivores we prefer plenty of freezer space, even with raising our own animals.
The batteries seem to be about half the cost of the system these days, so if we could cut those costs down that would help a lot! Thanks for ideas.
Are there plans at any level for hard copy DVDs? Maybe I missed seeing them mentioned, but I am willing to pay more for physical DVDs, or support at a higher level, something along those lines. I’ll be supporting no matter what, but just my two centavos!
Well, certainly not a dog guru here so I tend to go off what practices I see from friends of neighbors. Most folks around us have between 40-500+ acres, and many Amish are around too. The folks that I see have working dogs pretty much all have some sort of shelter for them, whether a dog house or a spot out of the way in a barn or garage.
My friend, Caleb, has got a Great Pyr and a beagle and they both live outside and hang together, sleep together, etc. They are not inside dogs and from what I’ve seen only want to go inside if there are cooking smells… we are getting a purebred Great Pyr this weekend from his dad (posted about him having more in the Midwest regional board and being near Kansas City.)
So, we’ll have a weaned 2 month old puppy from working parents, to join our 3 month old Lab/Pyr mix. So far, the one puppy we have sleeps on top of our 3 week old bottle calf! The calf lies down in the foot or so of hay in the loading shed, and five minutes later the pup has a warm bed… my wife is the dog person, and she agrees that no dogs come in the house. They can go inside the garage like the two cats do, or the rabbit house or the tractor shed, but not the house.
Both these dogs will be working dogs. We only have the one beef calf for now, but chickens are coming this weekend and coyotes are a real possibility in our area, although we haven’t seen any yet. Our dogs are made for colder climates and guarding other animals. They will be fed well, have shelter from inclement weather and receive good care, meds as needed, attention from our 10 year old kids, and a job to do.
The new pup’s mom has a doghouse near my friend’s house and their poultry area but she lives outside. The dad is another story… he generally stays out with the goats and sheep and might dig a hole to lay in, but has no real interests observed other than hanging out and napping during the day among the flock, and patrolling most of the night. He’s not very social with strangers especially, unless he hears kids screaming… then it’s bad news for strangers near his family. That’s basically what I want in a dog… minds his job, protects livestock and family, and doesn’t run off.
Others may have different goals or ideals, and that’s fine. Our dogs are investments in a sense to protect our animals and family, so we want them to feel happy at doing a good job and valued as friends/family/coworkers. Just my two cents!
I hope this is the right place to post. A friend’s dad has 3 working LGDs (all Great Pyrs) and one of the females had a litter so they are purebred and the parents are both onsite. He lives in Kansas, sorta near KC although I don’t have his exact address.
There are 1 male and 6 females left, they are 8 weeks old today. (One female is coming to live at our farm in a week!) He is asking $300, and for now they are learning to work with their mom. The male stays out further from the house with the flock/herd, and the two females live closer to the house and barn and are more around the poultry from what I’ve been told.
If interested please let me know, and I will put you in touch with him. Just trying to help a friend.
paul wheaton wrote:I just now noticed the mention of patreon here!
Wait ... I usually get an email ... checking .... hmmmm .... FOUND IT! It went to spam.
It is for true! My videos patreon now has 37 patrons!
Been meaning to start contributing on Patreon, glad it helps some bonus now. I really enjoy the podcasts, especially when driving by the Labs and seeing the red cabin and reminiscing on my two weeks there. Looking forward to the next KickStarter too!
G Brent wrote:We are a family of 5 just on the east side of Kansas city. We are looking at getting some Land in the Kansas city MO area and doin an aircrete house around 2000sq/ft. I was raise on a farm and my wife has a green thumb. Would love to meet up with yall if you are up for it.
That sounds good to me, will discuss it with the wife as I should be home for a couple days here shortly. Time to get together is in rather short supply right now, hoping things will calm down a bit in late April. Planning to take a week off work then for my twins birthday.
We’ve found a great community up here in Eagleville, about 100 miles North… plenty of Amish, farmers, ranchers, and other blue collar folk that look out for each other. I’d really like to see (help out on if possible) an aircrete home… my dream of an Oehler style/wofati hasn’t changed, but my wife wants a more conventional style home. So, I think we will be building a slab home with radiant heated floors and icf walls. We may not use the radiant floors though, as she has already okayed a RMH for the living room.
I dislike using so much concrete, but we DO need a storm/tornado shelter, and this way the entire house qualifies. Planning to put in off grid solar with nickel iron batteries, and a cistern to catch water off the metal roof plus a septic system.
With all that, my goal of a $50 style house and a willow feeder is getting pushed back. I do want a happy wife though, and she has changed or given up many things too.
How old are your kids? Ours are almost 10 and involved in 4H, church, and the government schools up here in a small town are totally different from the PC schools in the KC metro area. Never did masks or shots, kids sit side by side in the halls… so much nicer than the atmosphere in KC was getting to be! BTW, my wife has some experience from helping her grandma as a girl, processing chickens, cooking in an Adobe outdoor oven, etc.
I’d be happy to stay in touch and see what we can arrange. I’ll send you a PM with my cell number, as a trucker though I often work odd schedules, FYI.
Lena Diehl wrote:Hey Leif,
Nice to meet you! Wow 10 wagon loads of wood, yikes! Were on electricity thus far, but I want to build a rocket mass stove soon...my husband isn't into it. BUt thats ok, after he he sees how good it works he will be! I'm loving it here so far, folks are friendly, and kind. Still trying to get settled, and plan out my gardens and such.
Happy Holidays!
Going over to Eli's house today since I am home. He stopped by yesterday, and now I have his address! He told my wife that he heard we are looking to try rabbit before starting to breed them for food, and he has some and can process them too. So, I think I may get a chance to learn to process them too. I hope I can see his setup for heating... am curious about how the Amish heat their house.
As far as RMH supplies, I now have a 24" x 50' roll of the Morgan Superwool, and Sunday I am going to pickup 140 of the dense firebricks, that were overbought by a guy who had a fancy outdoor patio oven/fireplace. Looks like our 31 acres has some sand in the creek, now that a friend brought his Gator over and we really explored the land. Haven't found clay yet, nor really explored much for it. Being a trucker has financial benefits, but cuts way back on time for projects! I think if we can get an RMH up and running though, I am hoping to convert some of the Amish in the area to more efficient wood burners too...
Lena Diehl wrote:Hey y'all. We recently re-located to N Central MO from Ohio. We're in the Trenton area, and looking for permie friends too! The more the merrier! Just getting out little piece of heaven started!
Lena
Hi there Lena! I think you are maybe an hour East of us at a guess, maybe less? A couple of permie minded folks out this way… a lot of Amish around here too. We’ve found them to be friendly and open minded, and interested in ideas like rocket mass heaters. My friend, Eli, says he burns usually 10 wagonloads of wood a winter! I’m working on him…
Gerry Parent wrote:An insulated core has been proven to be the fastest and most efficient way to get and keep the fire up to the high temperatures required for very clean combustion. Adding some dense bricks in areas where constant abrasion occurs has been a great compromise for longevity of the stove body. So from my view, I would say both types of bricks are recommended for a hybrid system that gives an all round great performance and help with longevity.
Stove Chat with Matt Walker airs live today and you could ask him any questions directly and get instant feedback from a pro. Stove Chat
Matt in the chats has talked about building cores from moulds which is how he started but now has mainly switched to using CF board as his go to material for many of his stove designs. He said it was a lot of work to make them and added a lot of complexity to something he just wanted to keep more simple so that many inexperienced people could build stoves that didn't require such a high level of skill and time.
Thanks Gerry! I hadn’t actually heard of Stove Chat before, but will check it out. It does sound like using insulated bricks for most of the build, but dense around the feed part of the J tube, and the bottom of the burn tunnel may be the way to go. :)
So Thomas, I need the heavy firebricks? Not the light/insulative? Have several others near me expressing interest, so planning to buy supplies by the pallet.
Thanks Gerry! I’ve talked a bit with Thomas before, wasn’t sure if he offered discounts for pallet size purchases or not. Been thinking about doing the same with solar panels as you can get great discounts buying them by the pallet. Even better if you can store an entire shipping container worth, but that’s a bit more than I want to have laying around money wise… like $40-45k worth! Although, out of 20 pallets I do have friends who collectively have said they’d buy about 6 pallets immediately!
The best price I have found so far on firebricks by the pallet was about $2,300 for a pallet of 600 insulative 2,400F (9*4.5*2.5), haven’t called to check what shipping would be yet. My question was mainly geared toward what have we decided is the best way to go (insulative vs. dense)? Or is it more efficient money wise to make moulds and pour refractory mix?
Will check out Thomas’ site again, but hard to believe I can buy premade for less than just the materials. Premade does have some extra value to it, but also looking for the experience of building start to finish and may want multiples… Thankfully, zero codes to worry about near me.
I’ve read the book from Ernie and Erica, and a bunch of older threads on here, have also helped build a RMH in Omaha about 3 years ago in a greenhouse. My question now is, in 2021, with say $3k to spend on firebricks (thinking a pallet buy, and will sell off some to recoup some part of the money), what are my best choices?
A couple things:wife wants to convert an existing 30x40 metal garage into our new house including pouring a concrete floor and building a RMH in the middle, open concept other than small bedrooms and bathroom.
A new friend used to be a boilermaker, and has worked with casting refractory before and his wife likes the idea for their house too. Also, a local Amish carpenter seems quite intrigued with wood heat that doesn’t require 10! wagonloads of wood each winter… so, now that I have room to store bulk materials I’d prefer to cut costs that way. Advice on best way to go vs. best economical way?
We have actually moved to Eagleville, MO just about 6 miles South of the Iowa state line and this town of 308 seems very permie friendly to me! Freedom is abundant here, no masks, friendly people, the K-12 school has about 200 kids and never masked last year. No building codes in Harrison County either… and my neighbors are mostly grass farmers, goat, pig and cow ranchers and Amish. So, plenty of raw milk available, fresh eggs, and folks who can do plenty. Wish we had been able to move here 10 years ago.
No other permies around that I have met, well, within 20-30 miles yet, but folks are pretty much live and let live. The new sheriff apparently is a young guy and from what I have heard won’t enforce any masking BS, approves of constitutional carry, etc. My wife and kids all love the place too, making friends and working to be part of the community. I’m just glad that no one feels like they want to tell me what I can or can’t do on my property. May be another year or two until we get cows but the property is fenced already!
Be glad to chat. Lots of small communities out this way!
May Lotito wrote:Native eastern red cedar grows fast for evergreen screening. There are commercial varieties of arborvitae for sale too. I planted bamboo and American pillar arborvitae but both aren't doing much after 3 years.
I also planted a row of sunchocks and each single tuber grew into a bush of 10 ft tall and 3 ft wide quickly. They work very well for privacy screening and my chickens like staying under the shade too. Only disadvantage they are not evergreen.
Hadn’t thought about sunchokes… will have to look into the cedars as my wife loves evergreens. (Maybe because they don’t have any in her native Bolivia?) Not sure how tall the cedars grow naturally, but thanks for the input! :)
thomas rubino wrote:Hi leif;
I live on a gravel road and have for most of my life.
In the winter it all depends on moisture.
We can have solid frozen ground in the shady spots , a mud bog where the sun sorta hits.
And out in the sunny spots, it dries up and throws just as much dust as high summer!
No winning unless you pay for mag chloride to be sprayed on your road.
That does work well and lasts quite a while.
Ah thanks Thomas! Well, we’ll just have to wait and see them. I doubt I’d have any interest in paying to spray something… like always dusty cars, just a fact of life these days. I’ll take it! :)
Mk Neal wrote:Forsythia grow fast, can form a hedge and they top out around 7 ft. Not evergreen, but beautiful early spring flowers and dense dark green foliage most of the year.
Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. I think we are in zone 5b now, I’ve thought about maybe looking at some type of bamboo too. We are too cold to grow timber bamboo, but smaller varieties might do alright. As a trucker, I’ve noticed a couple areas along highways that I’ve seen some growing in Missouri.
Not sure how the dust situation will change in the winter… haven’t lived along a gravel road for decades. Been thinking how nice it would be to make berms like Paul has, and plant the roadward side with lots of perennial flowers and native species and yardward side with small fruit or nut trees and shrubs.
Living along a gravel road, with I-35 on the other side of it with maybe 100+ feet of space between our road and the highway, my wife would like to plant some fast growing trees and/or shrubs on our side of the road. She likes the look of evergreens, and would like them to act a barrier to help lessen the dust from the road that blows over to the house.
Any suggestions for what does well in this neck of the woods? There is a small (2-3’) berm or ridge running parallel to the road, and aerial electric lines atop that. So, prefer not to plant stuff that would grow tall enough to need maintenance under the electric lines.
Sarah, is it possible for you to order the DVDs in England from Amazon? Would rather not use them if alternatives are available, but sometimes they may be one of very few options. Being in one of the United states, I bought the digital downloads a year or so ago, but just bought the DVDs there so I have hard copies. As a trucker (lorry driver?) I often have trouble with slow or poor internet signal. Besides, no solar on our new 12 hectares yet, so if the grid goes down and the zombies come, can still watch from portable battery banks… ;-)
Good luck to you, hope you can find a solution! Now, if I could figure out how to 3D print models from the videos that Mike uses… I’d be one happy camper!
We’ll, been here in Eagleville for about a month and the whole family loves it! We go up to Lamoni, IA to visit the Amish farm store for raw milk, go to the municipal pool, etc. Everyone has been super friendly, most seem non political pretty much, seems like only the out of town eta wear masks, friendly and welcoming folks at the local church!
Best of all, no building codes, few neighbors that even might gripe, and we’ve got what I think looks like a good hill to build in to. The preacher at church is a farmer who raises some meat cows so we got on his list, and the former preacher has a earth moving business and raises heritage breed hogs. Both are happy to answer questions about equipment, country life, etc.
Hard to do much of what I want yet, being a trucker for now, and still waiting for the other house to be closed on. Lots of dreams and slow adjustment to rural life in NW Missouri and SW Iowa… have met a couple others up this way into freedom, permaculture, etc. Need to figure out maps of our land soon, and just how far back that fenced in property line actually goes…
Rebekah, several have mentioned using the dryer for a few minutes with some dry towels thrown in… not sure if that’s an option for you? Sorry, I don’t remember for sure, but I think they said tumble on low for a few minutes with the towels before hanging out.
We just bought a rotary clothesline/dryer and I installed it on the back deck. The spike was made for the ground but also had holes to screw it onto the deck. My mother in law is visiting for several months, from Bolivia, and after I put it up she had stars in her eyes. It was about $100 and I might have to buy another and have it shipped down there for her! ;-)
As a single guy I could see that as what it is, but having a wife and two school age kids and a mother in law at home, somehow I don’t think that would fly too far… even if I offered to install several close to each other! ;-)
Carl Nystrom wrote:You say your house is on a "fairly level" spot - but does that mean that the general topography is not completely flat? I dont really get extreme wind out here in Oregon, so I do not have any experience with storm shelters, but I have built a couple of root cellars in which I would feel pretty confident in any storm. It is a fair bit of work to build an underground room, but you could easily build something for a few grand. A simple cut-and-cover approach with cinder block walls and a poured roof is pretty easy to do, even for a complete novice. Getting a cargo container would likely be a very quick solution, but a cellar has a lot of utility as a storage space when you are not hunkering down in it.
You do have to consider ground water, but if you can dig into a slope, it is easy to lay some drain pipe behind the walls that drain to daylight. Even if you dont get it completely underground, just piling up the excavated dirt is likely going to be enough to give it protection and keep the temperatures pretty stable inside.
I want to say I spent about a month working on my cellar (with only hand tools) and spent probably about a grand on it. Granted, I was in my 20s then, and prices have likely gone up!
I appreciate all the suggestions! Carl, I think your’s makes the most sense for our situation, from what I know right now. We’ll have to decide carefully where to cut into a hillside, as my goal long term is for a wofati or Oehler house in retirement! Concrete block and a poured roof sounds doable to me, I wonder if Sepp’s berm shelters might also be feasible?
Hopefully we’ll be able to start the move in about two weeks and then I can really explore our new place and look better at possibilities. When we do, I’ll post some pics and ask for thoughts and ideas, on what potentials y’all see. Hmm, might even need to get a hold of Paul for a video consultation… :wheels churn faster in my mind:
Thanks Thomas and JoyLynn! Am a wee bit busy these days, but am so glad for the tips and now I know better where to go and who to talk to. I have participated in one RMH build and have the Wisners’ book, but haven’t actually built one all on my own nor bought materials or figured out exactly which ones will work best for us.
I do plan to build on in the garage/metal building next to the house first, before one in the living room like at Paul’s. That one I know I’ll have to build a foundation for it under the trailer!
As far as place name ideas, maybe Twin Labs… since my twins are 9 now, or Twin Acres… ;-)
Well, when moving to a new property with a double wide on it, and being in the Midwest (Harrison County, MO), I am looking for suggestions on a reasonable cost storm shelter. Long term, I hope to build a wofati, but for the next several years I want something quicker. Thoughts?
I’ve been thinking of maybe getting a shipping container delivered and figuring out a way to maybe pour some concrete pylons with metal brackets poured in, to weld it to. Would rather not use so much concrete, but I do want a safe place near the house for storm or tornado alerts.
The house sits on a fairly level area of maybe 2-3 acres, not too many trees of any real size are close although about half the 31 acres is wooded and half pasture. What other options can y’all think of that can be done fairly quickly and at a reasonable cost, maybe $3-5k. Have thought about a root cellar of sorts, but don’t have a lot of time to throw at this project myself, due to my work schedule.
Ok permies, I should be moving my family in about 3 weeks to our new property and have some questions on what and maybe where to find useful stuff. With 31 acres of mixed pasture and woods, I should have room to store some “stuff” like I’ve never had in the city!
So, what suggestions would you have for “stuff”, especially that may be much cheaper in bulk? Example: for RMH supplies, I plan to put one in the 30x40 metal shop/garage first, but after that would like one that is at least sort of pretty (like Paul’s) in the double wide. So, maybe a pallet of fire bricks? Buy 6-8” ductwork by the pallet or case? Suggestions on where to find bulk quantities? What are the latest suggestions for fire bricks vs. ceramic wrap vs. casting a j-tube?
Moving out of Kansas City, I’ve still made a lot of freedom minded friends in the past year, and we are looking into buying pallets of solar panels to start with. I should have the room to store extras to sell off for a price well below retail. Been trying to think what else that may work with. Considering buying a super duty pickup and trailer (have a CDL so can drive pretty much any loads up to 80,000 lbs.) Maybe I can help save on shipping costs by picking up or delivering for friends.
Thanks for your thoughts and ideas! Not sure if I’ll ever be able to get to sort of a Wheaton Labs-Missouri type status, but it can be a goal... along with a wofati in the Northern slope of that hill in the woods, maybe!
Hey Jeff, I hadn’t heard anything about the DNR doing or helping with planting anything. The property is about equal pasture and trees, but would like hedges and more trees for silvopasture. I wonder if they’d help with some black locust? There are no ponds on this property yet, but it does have a four season creek, so I want to figure out if it’s possible to improve that.
Before planting too much though, I want to consider possible earthworks, especially near the double wide and yardish area. Thanks for the tip on the DNR!
Hi there, we are buying 31 acres near Eagleville, MO in a couple weeks, maybe 5 miles South of the Iowa border. Have found several permie and freedom minded folks near the MO/IA border so far.
Having been to the first PEP1 event and spent two weeks at Paul’s, am finally hoping that I can start a wofati/Oehler style house in a couple years for my dream retirement home!
We are looking to buy some land in NW Missouri soon, and I was wondering if there were any permies in that area or have thought about relocating up that way? We are land shopping in Harrison County, and have been considering 20-40 acre plots with an existing home. (Wife isn’t sold on a wofati/Oehler style house yet... but, she agrees water, trees and slope are the main interests.
We’ve got two kids and would like to meet others in the area, and after getting moved in we’d like to find a few others of like mind. Maybe they have an RV? I’d hope we could find a couple more folks, even better if they had kids, that would want to plant and build hugelkultur beds, raise animals in a humane and ethical way, build relationships, etc.
Ideal folks probably would be more brown permie types, okay working with and eating animals, guns and hunting, growies, natural building, minimal government, homeschooling. If we could find a Missouri version of Paul Wheaton that’d be awesome! Or Sepp, or Joel Salatin, or folks that are learning and growing along those types of paths. We don’t mind some adult beverages at times, but don’t want smokers of either tobacco or anything else. I don’t mind if others do that, but not around us please.
Some of our long term goals include gardens, maybe a few cows or sheep, chickens and guineas, silvopasture, round wood building and hopefully that wofati. Open to meeting others with different dreams and maybe adding some of them in too!
PM me if interested in chatting more. Hoping to buy land this spring/summer and get started!
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