hans, I wish I could bring him a couple!! If I could justify the trip it would be fun to see his operation!! He's given me some great advice in the past and I love his threads.
Jocelyn, we had really great luck at the beginning by walking our dogs around the property daily and enforcing boundaries even where there wasn't a fence. That did break down when our neighbors invited the dogs over to their property. Now we have some dogs that think the world is their oyster.
We have some friends who did the same thing with their LGD's and now even though the dogs CAN get through the fence, they only do it when they are let out(to chase off coyotes)!
Anyone looking for a farm/guardian dogs? Our Anatolian Shepherd/Great Pyrenees ladies made friends with the neighbor’s dogs. Now we’ve got just shy of a dozen bundles of hungry joy. We have two girls from the first litter that are ready now. The one being held by my son is the runt for someone who isn’t looking for an 80lbs. dog. The other girl is a fluffy giant getting ready to pounce on her sister.
The second litter will be ready on April 25. We have 4 boys and a single girl from the litter. All are currently living in our barn with pigs and chickens with no issues.
We can make sure they have their first shots unless you are opposed. We’ve been feeding them the Kirkland brand puppy chow with no issues.
PM for more info or to meet your new best friend!!!
do you have internet access available for any temporary amount of time? Like could you use the internet at a friend's house? You could get an older laptop and take it to the library possibly. then you could load all of the programs yourself and save the $500. An older used laptop can't be that terribly expensive, and many types of Linux are free and designed to run extremely well on older machines. I bet if you put a wanted ad on CL for older working computers/laptops you would be overrun with people who had something to just give away rather than throw away. I've had multiple PC's given to me or scrounged from a throwaway pile. with a little bit of googling you can get one running pretty quickly!
As a matter of fact, I have an older laptop that I haven't even tried to boot up in a few years that had linux on it. it wasn't the greatest thing, the battery woudn't connect any longer, so it always had to be plugged in. if you are interested in a non-portable latop, let me know and we'll see if I can't get it in usable shape for you!!
Tony, congrats on your success! I look forward to your report on the final, or at least 2.0 version. Do you have any projected costs or bill of materials planned out yet? I would love to build something similar for an unheated guest room and a very leaky un-insulated barn. I'm not expecting magic in the barn, but it would be nice to be able to keep water in its liquid state.
Are you planning a full production model similar to the Zen of Passive Solar Heat, or a more DIY-esque style?
On your prototype, what did you use for the fins? I tried to figure it out, but I'm not able to recognize them from the pictures.
I like that it allows some wiggle room for personal interests to drive how PEP works for me. I can get my straw badge in animal husbandry for instance and my other 12 sand badges will show how I can stack functions with my animals through landscape design, fiber harvesting, on farm economics, rotational grazing, green woodworking, etc. Now I might have the required covered, ive started to see the world through Pail’s Eyes, but I get to start to build the permaculture system of my dreams. Then I can move on to PEP 2 to grow my skills and uncover more interconnectedness.
While I understand that using credit cards but paying the balance every month is technically debt free (I wouldn't even call it a grey area as long as you aren't carrying a balance month to month) I struggle to believe it is a good moral or permie choice to make. Credit card companies aren't npo's just looking to give everyone a free vacation for paying their bills on time. They make money from people who fail to pay their bill on time. They may so much money from people carrying over a balance that they are willing to share that with more responsible people for 2 reasons I believe. 1- A very small percentage actually get to use these benefits in any meaningful way, it is really just a marketing gimmick. 2- Even if you are paying your balance monthly, I imagine they are able to gain funding and investments based on total membership and credit allowances. Either way, they are making money off of you, and the"free vacations" are really paid for by someone who probably won't be able to afford a vacation ever. This isn't making the world a better place. It isn't thinking long term. Its just thinking longer term than the person carrying a balance. If every cardholder refused to carry a balance, there would be no perks and no credit card companies. I realize this come across overtly preachy and holier-than-thou, but it isn't meant to pass judgement. This is America, and I'm not your dad. You're free to do what you want. My living certainly isn't above reproach. Hearing (reading) someone talk about how easy it is to win with credit cards just gets me, like stepping on a thorn. It is only easy because it is so very hard for so very many other people. I'll step off my soapbox now...
Thomas, I’m planning on a skin on harvest. I would like to do a scald and scrape, but I will probably end up with a scorch since I already have a propane torch and farming has become an expensive hobby this first year. When I grow up I’m hoping to have some sort of mobile custom set-up ala Brandon Sheard.
What a great way to get the pigs comfortable with the truck. I may never have thought of this. like ever. Does your butcher skin or scrape the pigs? Off the 3 pigs, what percentage of weight do you think you will get back? I'm looking forward to doing our own butchering in another few weeks, and curious how it goes with a custom butcher shop.
I know you said not leather, but I’ve had decent luck with the goatskin gloves from harbor freight and if your wanting to spend some bigger money the petzl cordex belaying gloves. I get about 3-4 months out of either, but the petzl’s have a 1 year warranty, so I just took them back to rei for a brand new pair. I have small hands and wear a medium in the harbor freight gloves, but the come a size smaller. I wear a small in the petzl’s , and they also have an extra small.
I was a little worried about spending $40 on a pair of work gloves, but rei has a really good return policy, so if you get them and absolutely hate them you can get a refund really easily.
Pigs are continuing to do well! I just went to check on them and thought there may have been another casualty. I was checkInto over each pig and when I picked up one of the males, he didn’t really move at all. I made sure he was breathing and jostled/nudged him and he finally woke up and wandered off. Very lazy pig!! I tried to get a picture of the bronze streaks, but the photos just don’t do them service!
It is indeed a gall!! I went back and only found the ones pictured, no others on the plans so I snagged the branch and dissected them with my kids. Here’s what we found inside. Gall are very interesting! Thanks for the info!
I was taking a little walk around the property this evening trying to identify a few plants and came across this weird thing. I can’t seem to find anything the looks close on google. If it’s a new plant, do I get to name it!!??!!?
We lost another pig. I think one of the moms may have laid on her. The mom's aren't terribly delicate, and the babies aren't terribly agile. Losing this one was more upsetting for me than the first two.
We have a couple of runts, but they are active and moving around with the others. a few are taking advantage of having two moms and a getting pretty tanky. The all black pigs are starting to get really pretty red-bronze horizontal stripes. They may end up being my favorite. All of the split skin is healing nicely, and everyone seems to be happy and active. When we check on them, our daughter makes a point to pick up every pig at least once. She absolutely adores the pigs. And the sheep. She told me she wants a dog for her birthday. We already have 3 dogs, but she wants a birthday dog. I'm fairly certain that she would live in the dirt with the pigs if given the chance...
Our other sow is showing signs of pregnancy, although she is much smaller, so I'm not really expecting such a large litter. I guess we'll see! I'll get some more pictures up tonight when I get home from work
Edit: here’s a piglet with some stripes. They show up much more coppery in the early sunlight. Also one of our handsome LGD working hard.
So a little context. When a TedX event is held, there is a central theme. Often the speakers have a particular niche or shtick that they sort of shoehorn into the theme. I’m wondering if that might be sort of a secret sauce with Kickstarter.
We’re working on creating a (hopefully infinitely) sustainable market garden where we are mob grazing over a plot of land and then planting behind with marketable veggies. Then selling said veggies and livestock. Rinse repeat. Many of Paul’s successful kickstarters have been aimed as a how-to for a single project, with the exception of the pdc/atc. My question: is the single product/project package the silver bullet? Would a “How to plant a super sustainable market garden(and save the world)” fund better than some sort of “micro pdc project of world domination”, or....? I don’t really know. I think that the info needs to be actionable, but how important is the specific call to action?
We’ve told the kids that they can name the piggies, but they have to be food names. The blonde one has become meatloaf. Other names include blood sausage, oats, pizza, grains, pancake, pepperoni, and chicken parmesan. The piggie dad is Headcheese. Bacon, Ham, and Porkchop will be enjoying Camp Cure this fall.
I'm sure my mom had much more grand dreams for my future, but she doesn't seem too concerned with it right now!
I think the kids will be ok eventually. They have known all along that the animals are for food. There were some tears this morning when they found out that 2 didn't make it. There was also much rejoicing!
Last night, one of the dogs was acting funny down by the pig pasture, so I figured I would go check to make sure they were all right. What do I find but 12 beautiful babies! We've only had these sows for 3 months and 2 weeks, so either they were preggers when we got them, unlikely since they were the only pigs the previous owner had, or they delivered at the same time at least a week early! The 2 moms are Kune Kune, the dad is 1/2 Kune 1/2 AGH. Moms are both doing well and co-parenting. My family is ecstatic! I'm thinking the kids aren't going to be too keen on these guys eventually being bacon...
Question on the whole Safeway thing: why Safeway? Like why even think about grocery stores? Didn’t the guy from Broken Limbs do better when he was selling his own apples? My wife and I are hoping to set out homestead up as a u-pick garden set on the pasture we are rotating out pigs and sheep over. I would rather grow enough produce for 15-20 families and get to actually shake their hands and teach them the value of good Permies food than get a contract with a distributor where they throw out all our “bad” fruits. Our goal, probably a couple years down the road, is to be able to have people come pick their own no-added-gick veggies for $1/lb. like Fukuoka said, why should orgánico cost more? Especially if I’m not picking and storing it? If every permie could feed 10-15 families, would Safeway even exist?
Great ideas here, thanks everyone! I’ve currently doused my feet in baking soda and looking into more summer appropriate shoes. I’ve been wearing a pair of leather boots that just might be more than I personally need in warmer weather.
Another idea I’ve had recently is to make some felted wool shoe inserts to get the plastic/foam ones out. More natural and better at wicking. Also I think it would help my socks last longer. I happen to be hard on shoes and socks. Not intentionally, but if a pair of shoes lasts me 3 years (I have a desk job!) I’ve gotten my money! I feel like that’s not the norm for most people. My wife can wear the same pair of shoes for near a decade. It’s probably related to the death-scented bacteria that have decided to make my feet their home.
No real social effects. I’m not so much averse to the soap, I’ve just found that I haven’t needed it. Maybe I just don’t need it for most of the year. Perhaps I’ll wash like a normal person and see if that helps.
I’ve never thought of using clay, I may need to find a way for that to work!
I’ve been poo- and soap-less for close to a year. Mostly it’s been great. I can’t seem to drop some form of deodorant, as I still tend to get a little funky as the day wears on. As the weather warms up, I’ve begun to notice much more oil on my already oily skin resulting in lots of blackheads on my face/hairline and all over my chest and back. Not like unfortunate teenager bad, but noticeable. I’ve also had VERY sweaty stinky feet. Like it would be helpful to be able to change out socks and shoes partway through the day. These things may or may not be related. I’m not certain. I eat cleaner than the average American, although not as well as most here I’m sure. Has anyone else had similar issues? How can the problem be the solution here?
We recently bought a property outside of Missoula after living here for about 7 years. We're just starting to learn foraging and have many plants on our property that are yet to be identified. I would love to have you out to teach us both what we have and how to use it.
Travis Johnson wrote:To me, this all seems so anti-permicultural as people seem to be dealing with the result and not the problem.
Poison ivy at my location anyway, has always been in areas where there was dabbled light and shade, it will not grow in full sunlight. To eradicate the poison ivy, just eliminate the shade, which will be better for the strawberries anyway. If your unwilling to remove the shade, then moving the strawberries to full sun would be the next thing to try.
I would agree that I want to keep with a permie of a solution as possible. We were given the strawberry starts and told they like either partial shade or full sun only in the late afternoon/evening. As such we planted them on the west side of our house where they only get full sun after the hottest part of the day. They have done amazingly well and are sending up more and more shoots.
The area we are planting was rocks and some grass patches a couple of weeks ago. We put in some potting soil/compost mix, planted to starts, and covered the dirt with wood chips. It wasn't until about a week later that something not quite strawberry started to show up. So either the roots were in the planting mix or they were already there and waiting for enough soil and nutrients to jump.
I'm all for getting rid of them, but my darling wife believes that having a close-to-the-house example means our kids will be able to easily identify poison ivy in the future, and when they inevitably do get the oil on them, we'll have the ability to clean if off without too much panic. Which means for now, it may be staying.
On the plus side, we are getting a couple of sheep this weekend, so maybe they will accidentally end up near that side of the house, and I will have accidentally uprooted some of the strawberry, and we won't have to worry about it any more....
We recently planted some strawberry plants we were given. The area around our house is very rocky, so we brought in some soil and mulch. The strawberries are doing wonderfully, but unfortunately so are some new comers. It appears we may have some poison ivy growing in among the strawberry. I've heard it's pretty tough to get rid of. I also assume it's not much fun to pick or eat strawberries that are jiving with the poison ivy. I suppose we could relocate the strawberries, but they have really done well where we put them and I'd like to keep them there. Nothing has really tried to bug them, and I want to keep it that way. Any good ideas for getting rid of the blasted poison ivy? I'll get some pics up when I get home from work.
I have walked around and pulled anything bigger. There is grass, and one shrub that I haven't tried to take out yet. The fact that I got shocked when I touched the fence and T-post makes me thing that's not it, but this is my first electric fence so I'm ready to be wrong.
What should I be looking for at the earthing points?
I set up electric fencing about a month ago. It's just over 1.5 acres, and I'm subdividing it up to rotate my pigs and sheep through. Currently it is only 3 strands, enough for the pigs, but I will be expanding it up to 5 strands @ 48 inches for the sheep. For the first few weeks it worked really well. Like well enough I was surprised that I had accomplished it... Then we got a bad storm. Dark, rainy, lots of wind. Ever since then, it hasn't really worked. I'm using a Parmak solar charger rated at 30 miles, and the gauge constantly reads in the red. I hooked it up to a battery charger and made sure it was at 100%, but no change. Touching the fence gives the weakest pulse, less than a 9v battery. I was pretty stumped until I was checking some of the cross fencing and managed to touch both the fence (to check for a pulse) and one of the T-posts (to catch my balance from almost tripping over myself). WOW!!! It works! Like I thought briefly I was going to wet myself from the surprise of the shock!
This leads me to believe I have a grounding issue. I have 3 7' grounding rods driven all the way in. They are about 8' apart, starting about 6' from the charger. I had thought about getting some additional grounding rods and connecting them to a 4th wire towards the bottom of the fence. Then the escapee pigs would pretty much be guaranteed to touch a live wire and a ground wire when attempting to bolt. Would this work? Would it be a waste of time? I'm certain now that it isn't the charger or extra grounding from brush. Any other ideas?
Wow! We let our piggies in a little early, but everything is greening up nicely here. The first few paddocks are even re-greening pretty well! You can see in this photo where the porkers have been on the right vs where they’re going on the left. Also you can see where I made a significant measuring error(really bad estimation) and had to move the fence about 5 feet nearest the gate.
The easiest thing would be choosing a video editor, then you know what to search for. Lightworks seems to be a great free option. searching Youtube for lightworks tutorial will probably give you hours of how-to's.
I'm actually going through this process myself. It really depends on what type of equipment you have. PC or Mac? Do you have a smart phone? Knowing the type of equipment would help walk you through more specifically how to help you, rather than just saying, "put the video clips in the editer and edit to the desired product." Which is essentially what you do.
I've been learning to do some basic editing on my iPhone using iMovie. This system is great in that the iPhone takes great video and has the power to edit, and iMovie was free with the not-so-free phone.
If you let me know what you're working with, I can try to give you a little more information...
They sell in bulk from the farm in Potomac, but I don't have a rodent free way to keep that much feed so I don't remember the price he gave me. @ $11/50# a ton would be $440 in bags, so I would guess it would be comparable. Minus the travel costs, but if you are coming to the Missoula area for something already.