My Restless Soul at 52 years old having been playing string instruments most of my adult life am trying to learn the melodica! I never understood much about piano except for how to find middle C and to play a major chord and major scale. So I'm trying to learn this more by feel and it's pretty damn cool!
Hello there! Yes I do find some of these things of interest! This is a good way to do that as I can delete it all with one click or pick through the topics. I have recently joined another forum that is absolutely nailing me with notices and suggestions and even forums that share a similar title are trying to get me to sign up. I was hit with so much of it within a couple of days that I am unsubscribing. I am grateful that this forum is not like that and that we can know that our responses or any issues that we are having are being dealt with by folks that are like-minded and not in some call center in the Philippines, or else where, and sending endless emails meant to manipulate me into the next best level of "service". Thanks permies!
Thank you Jimmy for that info.I have been watching a couple of websites that one included and the times that I have called about property it has turned out to be an inaccurate description of the property or acreage or something that funny enough just sold with the next best thing being $10,000 more.I don't have a ton of money and the little bit that I have approximately $15,000 I need to make work. I am still in the beginning phase of trying to find property so I might have to dip down into West Virginia being as it's right here to get a feel for what's going on. Cheers!
Thank you all so much for your thoughtful replies. I'm still thinking about West Virginia! I spoke to the real estate agent that is selling my house and she says she can put me on to a good real estate agent in West Virginia once I nailed down a region. This information is all very good in particular as concerns water and minerals. Thank you and any further discussion on this is welcome. Cheers!
Hi Donna I also am in PA and hoping to meet like-minded people unfortunately I am in southwest PA but please be reassured we are out here also enduring rolling of the eyes followed by the sigh's when we talk about such wonderful things! I see this post is a little old hopefully you're doing good and further realizing your dreams.
It's good to know they have ramps in West Virginia! When I was growing up in Tennessee we used to go and pick ramps and would even go to a festival called the ramp Tramp , I think it was in North Carolina. When I watched Anthony Bourdain's take on West Virginia I remember seeing a feast of I believe all native West Virginian foods and I thank they were picked from out of the forest. Maybe someone can clarify this if you are familiar with that episode of Parts Unknown. If you have not seen this mr. Bourdain was well impressed with West Virginia more so than most states that I saw him cover which was a little surprising to me. One thing that I do remember vividly was that the show seemed to emphasize the resiliency of the hard-working people of West Virginia and the fact regardless of the economic situation or whatever else might be going on there or anywhere else for that matter that they would rather be nowhere else except West "By-God "Virginia! Man! That is the place that I'm hoping to find. I'll have to try to catch that again someday if I get around a TV or maybe I can find it on YouTube on my phone. Thanks all!
When I saw Jimmy Mountaineer in my inbox I knew it a West Virginian on the other end! Thank you for your replies thus far this is all good information. I have to look into this renewed petroleum industry that's going on. It breaks my heart that this type of thing goes on and that it would have to affect people that are wanting to live a natural life and in such a beautiful state. Is there fracking in Pennsylvania also? I have not personally seen evidence of fracking but when I went to South Africa the city of Johannesburg is surrounded by yellowish mountains of dirt that were dug out of the mines when this city was started. When I say mountains of dirt I mean mountains of dirt several hundred feet tall . Johannesburg is actually named Egoli meaning the place of gold. The number and size of these Mounds that are visible from the city was a little overwhelming when I realized the process and the size of the areas of waste that can never be used again for anything. I imagine this is the same in West Virginia where they are raping the land. It is good to hear that the people are generally friendly and accepting. I gathered that much watching a few documentaries about the state. Thank you and keep these replies coming! This is so very exciting but as many of you know this is also a little scary following through on my commitment to a complete change of lifestyle. Part of me thinks this might have been better started when I was a younger man but you know, in my 52 years I have gained a lot of valuable experience and hopefully some kind of wisdom along the way and the way that things are lining up seem to indicate that this is the perfect time for me. It may or may not be in West Virginia but I was captivated by your beauty! I guess when you think about it it may be a good place for people that are environmentally conscious to live which may someday evoke change. Did I just hear a bunch of West Virginians laughing? I am very new to this forum and am spending some time today trying to figure out how to do some things like the Purple Mooseage. That came up as purple moose sausage on the talk-to-text! That might not be bad either. Cheers!
Hello Jonathan and thank you for your reply. This is all very valuable information. I have to say that 48 for healthcare is a little scary but hopefully it is something that I will not be needing outside of a good primary care physician . I don't even want to know what the next two are but after having lived in Florida for a long time I would wager on that being one of them . If I may ask what is it that makes you say the Pennsboro area? If you know of any resources or any articles Etc regarding this it would be helpful. I am not interested in a high-paying job unless that should happen to be part of what I find and I'm not trying to be broke but I am only interested in working part time from here on out if I can help it. I have worked very hard for most of my life mostly in the trades or commercial facilities maintenance world. I have also worked with people with life controlling issues such as drug addiction, alcoholism, prostitution and homelessness and also worked for 3 or 4 years with developmentally disabled adults. Actually the hardest job I have ever had! Full of heartbreak and wonder! Also not my first choice in work at this point but it is one of those jobs that I think we all should experience at some level whether it be volunteer or paid. I am hoping to find work as a life coach in the addiction world. My understanding is that West Virginia has been hit particularly hard like Pennsylvania and Ohio with the opiate crisis. I actually live in the tri-state region in Southwest PA and myself am no stranger to addiction and want to help people find their way out of that hell. A very good friend of mine in Pennsylvania does this for work and says at least in PA there is tons of work so much so that you can pretty much pick your place and name your schedule from half a day to 5 days a week. Either that or I could fall back upon my experience in commercial facilities maintenance management. Definitely not my first choice. I would rather reserve the skin on my knees and knuckles for my property. I am pretty much a techno tarde and sometimes have a bit of a time navigating the computer realm. Everything good that I find including this website is generally by accident. I have a few folks that I watch Faithfully on YouTube and this forum as resources so if there are any other things that might be helpful for me at this stage that could be recommended I would be very grateful. This is the first time that I have been on a forum and it is very much unlike me but it seems to be the only place that I can immediately access people that have some of the same values as myself. Thank you all for accepting me here as part of this family. I am a definite greenhorn as far as homesteading but I have tons of experience in lots of things that would be helpful in that process. I appreciate that there is so much wisdom and experience represented here and the willingness to share. Thank you for your input. Cheers!
Hi Jen thanks for your reply. Just to cover a couple topics that you brought up, my religion is known to be conservative and my politics are known to be not. I also grew up around all types of firearms and I am a u.s. army veteran and I served as a combat engineer (can anyone say explosives?!?!) During peacetime. I also enjoy my right to keep and bear arms. Open carry does not bother me in fact when I saw that I felt a lot closer to the freedoms that I am hoping to realize. However I don't think it would be my choice for carry except for on my property. If the situation should occur I would rather be the surprise you weren't expecting. I probably need to leave these items at that because I don't want to kick off any kind of political discussion or debate here. It was just one of the things that attracted me about West Virginia of which I have seen in Pennsylvania also now and at this point in the interest of keeping the topic about the topic and not politics needs no further input. The meat of what I want to know is in regards to pros and cons of homesteading in West Virginia ie: land, laws that might affect me, if there is a particular view towards Outsiders , whether there is an off-grid community or not and about the geographical wonders of the state. By the way Idaho is a place that briefly entered my mind but it's so damn far away. I frequently watch a YouTube channel out of Idaho. It is one of the few that I have found that is very helpful as far as understanding some of the issues regarding homesteading. Not only that it is an absolutely beautiful state from what I can tell. I hitchhiked around the South a lot and then across to Cali and around a lot of the West in the late 80s but there's an area that I missed from Idaho through to Wisconsin accepting Wyoming. I also missed the bulk of New England but have seen the rest of the continental US and have lived from Sunny conservative as Hell Tennessee to sunny liberal as hell California (and I love them both!)and many points in between. I have also had the good fortune of living in England for three years and have traveled to 15 different countries some of them multiple times and some for extended periods of time from the two-week minimum that I like to keep as a rule if I'm going to another culture or country to 3 months which I like to shoot for. No I am not rich I am pretty close to broke but I have tried to enjoy my life now instead of banking for some hoped for American Dream after I reach 67 (and don't forget the half!) years of age and that's if there is even Social Security available at that point. I guess what I'm getting at is I have seen a lot in this country and mainly Europe, Central America and the Caribbean and I'm not sure that there is that perfect place (Ireland is pretty damn close!) but there are some happy mediums. I am hoping to find one of those and turn it into MY perfect place. I guess a lot of us nomadic types eventually get tired and want something of our own that we can build upon from our knowledge of things that we have experienced . I hope that I'm not done visiting other places in the world but I feel if I can find the right place I will never have to wander again. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
I am in the process of planning my Homestead and looking for a piece of land so that I can begin this wonderful Journey. I currently live in South Western PA which is really beautiful but it seems that I can get two to three times the amount of land in West Virginia just a short distance South. I have been back and forth through West Virginia three or four times in my life and the last time which was just last July me and my mother drove through south-to-north taking all back highways. It's a stunningly beautiful state and both of us were saying how we like the slower pace there and that it was somewhere that we could live. This state is also the first place that I ever saw open carry. I moved my mother back to her childhood home and 7 months later she was to leave this plane. I am now in a state where I don't really know anyone and I'm finding it to be a rather unfriendly place and I am seriously considering making West Virginia my home. If anyone has any advice concerning this stage in my journey and especially if you are or have lived off grid in West Virginia. I guess of particular interest would be pros and cons going off grid there. Receptiveness to Outsiders. I am also very interested in learning where like-minded people are in West Virginia or South Western PA. I also love Outdoor Adventure type activities so would be interested also in areas where there are things like creaks, rivers, lakes , caves, springs or escarpments. Also if anybody has any pointers on finding reasonably cheap property or if you are aware of any resources . I am originally from East Tennessee so the Appalachians have a special place in my heart. Not only that after having spent a year in the North I gotta say, I am longing for the other side of that Mason-Dixon line! Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
I am so behind the times I didn't even know about any of these other Fabrics like CoolMax. I guess I better get with it. I guess this is what happens when you don't have a TV or computer. Those Army days were a long time ago, nearly 35 years. Wow! I better quit with the math! I have just recently been thinking about checking into the military Garb to see what they are issuing these days because it does seem to be better than what we had. Although I liked my pickle suit. They did Issue us jungle fatigues for when we went to Panama that were called ripstop but I I think it is just lightweight cotton and as far as I know Vietnam era Surplus. Are there any recent vets out there that can talk a little bit about what's being issued these days? I will have to check into this CoolMax and any other Wonder Fabrics that are out there. Cheers!
Aaahh... polyester... it makes me think of my grandmother which isn't a bad thing. I have always been one of those cotton is king kind of guys however when I lived in Europe in the 90s and got into hiking a bit I started learning about polyester and the evaporative qualities that it has. So many times I have been in that soaking wet t-shirt going back and forth between hot and cold. That being said I have always thought wearing a polyester shirt would be a bit like wearing a plastic bag. I have not ventured into polyester shirts but I have used fleece jackets for a long time now and I find myself now checking tags when I buy clothes. One thing that I did learn from my hiking days is that if your fleece jacket does get wet that you just take it off and Shake It out and it gets rid of most of the moisture and the remainder that's left evaporates as you sweat. Ingenious! Back up a little further into the early eighties into my Army days and we were wearing cotton and wool and suffering! If you look at the armies fatigues Etc at this point you will see that there is a lot of care that goes into the choice of fabrics as it concerns functionality in a myriad of situations. Well, I'm looking like a bit of a bum these days because all of my old shirts got holes in them but that's because I am wearing them flat-out and hope to replace these along the way with clothing made of fabrics that are more suited to the situation. I have always purchased my Footwear for Pure functionality yet wore what was popular for clothes. I am trying to be more deliberate in every aspect of my life and that is going to be right down to the types of things that I put on my body. Thanks for posting. I know I just confused matters probably but hey I'm wanting to know the same kind of thing. It would be great if some of you guys can maybe Enlighten us on different types of clothing in their functionality as regards comfort and durability and hey, if we can get a bit of fashion with that functionality even better! Cheers!
Thank you so much for these posts so far. I was not expecting that so quickly! It is so exciting to me that there are those that understand some of the questions that I have and not look at me with a blank look mouth a gape not knowing what to say which is what I'm used to. So far all very affirming and welcoming. I look forward to coming back tomorrow anticipating more responses. I am at a time in my life like no other and it is in fact kind of a scary place where I know I'm going to find out if I mean to go through with this or if it's just a good idea. I'm sure many of you understand walking away from security into the unknown. Cheers all and good night!
Well not really but sort of but perhaps the title will bring the right person that can help me. My name is Terry and I am a new member of the permies forum. There are so many terms going around today to describe people that want to live in a more private and sustainable manner. A lot of folks have really defined reasons for why they live this way and I have never classified myself as any certain thing but I realize that there are enough of these terms going around that I fit in here somewhere. Point being I'm not sure that I am a permy in fact I'm pretty certain that I'm not.
I currently am living in a House that belonged to my mother who passed away recently, Cynthia J Long 1/31/19- God Rest her soul. The house shall be sold at which point there will be a small amount of money and I will be able to get a piece of land for myself somewhere and put a well on it. The idea is to make this small amount of money count for the rest of my life. I hope to only have to work full time as long as it takes to get solar up and running and then hopefully only have to work part-time or for myself only. That is the idea. If I was to point to any reason why I would want to do this other than I am just sick of the norm and want to be left alone I have always romanticized about the idea of living off the land in some sense which had me involved from the Cub Scouts scouts to the US Army and into a life of adventure in many different forms. I have never been comfortable with the societal standard for living in the United States. It's like we exist just to maintain a job so that we could have things and we do this until we drop meanwhile life has passed us by and it makes no sense to me. I am also at a place of a Crossroads in my life as I am now into my 50s and unemployed and living in a new state. I am realizing that I can either make a move into the same sort of career that I'm sick of or something altogether different or I can try to make the rest of my days count for me. I am a Christian however I'm not running off to the woods to protect myself against some kind of apocalypse. It's just who I am spiritually. I don't trust the government and I love my guns but I am not running for the hills and stockpiling weapons. I believe that we should live our lives in the way that makes us happy that does not harm others that we should love one another and help each other and not judge others for choices that they have made. As far as the environment is concerned I try to be as conscious as I can about it however as long as Harley-Davidsons exist I'm sorry but I will be purchasing gasoline. I love my organic food and I would love to learn how to grow it myself as well as methods of preservation and I love my medicinal herbs and I would love to grow them myself without having anyone breathing down my neck with regulation. I am into Recycling and it makes me want to be even more conscious about my environment. I am also a person that is very good with my hands, mechanically inclined and love to create. have not really put much thought into the idea of a self sustainable Life Style outside of having a garden. I am a carnivore. I love meat however I also love vegetables. I am not a hunter and would not even want a chicken slaughtered on my property however I have done such deeds . I'm open to the idea of vegetarianism especially if it is helpful for my body. I am not one that's crazy about exercise however I have been that in my younger days and I am interested in living a life that allows me to be more active also to physically benefit. If I try to Define myself as compared to the norm demonstrated by those that I am around I would say that I am an eccentric. That's a pretty good term to use when we don't quite understand someone's expression. Truth is I'm sick of the way that we are expected to live and I see that there are enough people living in the manner that I have dreamt of my whole life that I would be a fool to not try. Realistically I do not even want to Define myself but I know I fit in somewhere. I have never been able to Define myself politically and I'm not even going to try that one anymore. So it seems that off-grid word would be a start if I intend on not being connected to the grid. But what of homesteaders , Preppers, tree-huggers and all of the other things used to describe us? I'm sure that there is a definition for permaculture on this website and I'm such a techno tardive not really searched . Anyone with awareness of any threads or resources concerning these definitions it would be helpful. Who are you? Where do you fit in? Is there room for me?
Hi and congratulations on picking up the mandolin! I didn't start playing music until I was an adult and picked the guitar up at probably 22. After that I got interested in dobro and mandolin and also took those up and found that they were quite easy to learn the basics of once I learned the similarities between the instruments. I think the single most piece of advice that I could give you is to play with other people. Even if you only know a chord or two. I found that going to song circles , parking lot picking parties , Jam sessions or whatever they may be called, there is always someone willing to help you along. The thing about music is some people get it and become really good at it, unfortunately a lot of times these are the folks that that will hinder you from growing because either they don't want to share what they've learned or they want to accentuate how good they are by by pointing out other people's faults instead of helping and instead of remembering that they too were once beginners. There are some very gracious people however. Be humble. Ask questions. Ask to be shown how to do things. Take chances. Have fun!
Well I guess it's about time I addressed this. I am sorry that this is a long reply but this is the story. I have a very regretful past as concerns Frisco Bay area Grateful Dead shows of the late 80s. I have always been a fan of music and still to this day search out musics in hope of finding something new and exciting. These are things that I sought out pretty much everywhere but top 40 radio. I was aware of the Grateful Dead from hearing things like Trucking , Friend of the Devil and Uncle John's Band on psychedelic radio programs and then around the time I was getting out of the army it must have been 1987 and after hearing touch of grey and Hell in a bucket about a thousand times on the radio I came upon a cassette tape of " In the dark." My brother and I hooked up and started hitchhiking around this country and we landed out in San Francisco. I quickly became acquainted with the dead head culture and the idea that when the Dead comes to town that there is a nonstop parking lot situation that happens for up to several days at a time. As I remember my musical tastes had long past psychedelia and I was more into New York and some UK Punk. Sorry I never liked the Sex Pistols. At this time in my life I was trying hard to figure out who I was and what I actually thought and believed and having just come out of the army and not feeling exactly patriotic. I had some very good friends that were dead heads & would tour with the dead wherever they went. I will be real honest with you. I was very annoyed by a lot of the people that I was coming across probably because I felt I had already worked through that hippie thing and me having been born in 67 , The Summer of Love, realize that this was something that had its day. In my search for myself I had developed a heroin addiction so I was always open to a new hustle and the dead was coming to Oakland for 2 or 3 days and a friend of mine brought me along to work the parking lot. And if all went well and we could get a "miracle" we would even go inside. Well to be honest with you I was having so much fun in the parking lot and making quite a large amount of money in a very short period Of time. I in no means intend on promoting anything bad but I wasn't selling falafels or t-shirts. The show came and went and I was slightly bewildered for a little while. I had been around a lot of these folks on a daily basis but wow! I had never seen anything like this. Well, I told myself I didn't see the dead this time and I wasn't really a huge fan but I appreciated the talent, so I'll catch them next time. Well the dead came and went playing Oakland, Berkeley, San Francisco and Mountain View over the two years plus that I lived in the Bay Area. What a place to see The Grateful Dead I thought, yet every time I would go I couldn't get past the parking lot. I could always hear the show coming out of some psychedelic bus in the parking lot or just coming out the top of the stadium and to be honest with you the situation in the parking lot was sufficient and besides one of these times will be my time for a " miracle." I was able to get clean from heroin (a definite miracle !!!)and get my life somewhat back on track , then a friend of mine handed me a CD of Grisman Garcia "Not for kids only." I was absolutely blown away when I heard this and went straight out and bought that Garcia Grisman record. I had started to learn to play mandolin by this time and decided I would go see the Dead next time they came to town. I would finally have my chance. That was June of 95. I looked into it and I'll be damned , they had just played Tampa so It would have to be next year. Well as we all know next year came but Jerry wasn't there there. Jerry Garcia's music has been so important to me since he has passed. More so his acoustic based records. But I love it all. Yet for me, It's kind of like listening to a Billie Holiday record and knowing that you will never have the chance to see her and wonder what it must have been like . And you were in the parking lot!!! So I guess I just did this big long post to say ..... I NEVER SAW THE GRATEFUL DEAD!!! I am such an idiot on a computer I was just told that I just yelled by putting it in all caps. I just put my newfound knowledge to use and yes I yelled. If you got to see this wonderful band you are indeed among an elite who can consider themselves blessed and lucky and I for one envy you my friend.
By the way that's Peepa D.Peeps and Sexy Sadie Farrell. Otherwise known as peeps or peepers and Sadie ( with the bunny, my fourteen-year-old! ) and any variation of either name as well as whatever else might pop into my head at the time.
Great post. I personally have not had cats for that purpose but when I lived in England it was common practice and I remember thinking at the time that it was a great idea and what a life that must be for a cat! I am such a cat lover though that I have stopped short of calling it cruel and have said that my cats will always be inside, besides I work for them ! I have mostly lived in Urban or sub-urban settings and hearing all of my friends tell me of their cats that were run over or lost and I feel if you domesticate a cat and turn it out into an urban setting were you have predatory instinct, curiosity of a cat, and fear all working together it is not necessarily good for the cat or other Critters. That being said when I get a piece of property, I will have outside dogs and I am not a dog person but I love all animals. This time he's going to work for me! I remember my mother saying that this was cruel and of course mother's always being right, I had to go away and consider this many times and for a long time. My purpose for getting a dog would be 100% selfish, for protection and I would imagine that I will come to love that dog like I have loved all of my animals. In the sense of permaculture a barn cat might a bit more functional at the same time if I can walk my property and be safe and to be notified when things aren't right then I suppose this could fall into the same category. If I live in the type of place where I want to live I am certain that I will consider an outdoor cat probably for no other reason then it would allow me to be around even more cats! Great question!
It's kind of funny but you're giving some of us heart attacks out here. I've already had a really bad day dealing with people and my cats are my favorite "people" and I was already coming at ya both Barrels until I saw the picture. Thanks... I think
It sounds like a really good idea especially if you are into the boat thing. Me I went down to join the Navy and ended up joining the Army because the Navy guy was at lunch and the Army recruiter helped me realize that being at Sea wasn't necessarily for me. This is a slightly different thing but when I lived in England in the early 90s there was a lot of people that lived on Canal barges. These folks were intensely passionate about their lifestyle and wouldn't live any other way. Hey I say if it's something that you think you would really enjoy make sure that you make sure that you make sure and go for it! As for me I will be on Tierra firma!
Very cool post. I love a good beaver! I never realized until I watched a program about Yellowstone Park, I believe on Nat Geo, how different animals completely shape our ecosystem and I don't want to get it wrong or start lying here but it had something to do with reintroduction of wolves to the territory. Of course, wolves like beavers, not as friends but ... and somehow this all works together to keep everything moving in a cyclical fashion. I feel like a bumbling idiot right now because I'm sure that you already know of the documentary of which I speak and this is your thing, but it was a definite eye-opener for me about how all of our ecological systems work together depending upon the variant life systems that are going on Within. I would say eat more Beaver about now but we need to save these little critters as they are vital to our North American eco-systems. Thank you for bringing awareness to this issue! Oh yeah, I live on the Beaver River in SW Pa.
So I guess no valid driver's license would be a problem. Sounds great though and I rambled through California for a few years in the 80s. I have also worked in a rescue rehab release program for the Florida state parks, not to mention my raising of Squirrel Haggard!. It is good to know that there are people like you out there doing what you are doing and even if it would work out, I think my cat would eat the bear. I hope you guys get the kind of people that you are looking for.
Two other cool things about Montana. My 1999 Gibson Southern jumbo and countless other Superior acoustic guitars were made in Bozeman.
The second thing, Martha Scanlan is from there and currently works as a ranch hand and resides on a ranch. Sorry for those of you that may not know, but this is music stuff. Martha Scanlan is a very fine singer and songwriter and she was the creative driving force behind Real Time Travelers. If you are Montana and you don't know about Martha Scanlan check her out. She eats breathes and sleeps and sings about you're wonderful state, and horses! If I knew how to do YouTube attachments I would but I would say that E-Town Martha Scanlan performances and interviews are well worth the watch as she talks about being from Montana and moving away to my part of the country God's country East Tennessee, then being drawn back to Montana to work as a cowgirl ! Also check out Higher Rock from Spirit of Suwanee Fest of which I had the pleasure of discovering these guys. If this is the kind of stuff you're people are made of, I would love to see this place and would even consider it as a possible destination for my American freedom.
Hello everyone ! My name is Terry and this site is brand new to me. It took several weeks of searching through websites about off grid/ Homestead/ Preppers before I came to this site about permies. These terms are somewhat new to me and I wish I would have known to start with permies because it seems everything I need is right here! I have a confession to make. I am a real techno tarde and perhaps that is a badge of honor on a site like this. That being said I have never been a part of any forum and it literally took me a half an hour to figure out how to do my introduction post. For the most part all of this technology has passed me by and I somehow latch on to little pieces of it.
I am a 51 year old male who has often thought about living "off grid" and in the past two or three years have been reading a lot about intentional communities and people in off-grid lifestyles. Through circumstances Beyond My Control I find myself in Pennsylvania not knowing a soul much less knowing anybody interested in these types of things. I am hoping, within the year to purchase a piece of land and begin to experience freedom.
There is a vast wealth of information here and I can't wait to start picking through it. As I said I have never been on any Forum so I probably will lay back a little bit and watch how it works and maybe chime in here and there. I am generally shy and a little socially awkward but I look forward to and appreciate the opportunity to be a part of this community.