Howdy Zane, I have not tried it yet but I am currently reading a book wherein the author tells a story of his father wrapping each apple in plastic bags shortly after the bloom falls off. He says if the bugs get to the apples in a young state it is to late. As a fun side note he also says that his dad would write names of friends and family on the outside of the bags when the apples got a little bigger, with a magic marker, and this would block the sun from the peal causing the ripe apples to have the names "imprinted" on them!
Hanee Birch wrote:The other lot is actually for sale and would be quite cheap (same realtor as the land I'm likely buying has it for $18.5k and said "please just low ball me and give me any offer I will never sell that land").
Those sound like lovely words to hear from a realtor. Offer $1,500 and see what happens. Is that the two or so acres to the East of your property? Why won't they be able to sell it? Just looking at it from the internet it looks lovely. If you can ever get ajoining land cheap, it's usually worth it in the long haul. How many people have I heard over the years say "I wish I bought that 40 next door for $3,000 when I had the chance".
Hey Mike do you have a link to a realtor where these lots are for sale?
First a couple of questions. Is there a second road , shown at the bottom of the picture, that you could use as an access road?
What other plans do you have for the property? Will you be trying to capture runoff from rain and snowmelt in any of the gullies?
I think you mentioned that you might be able to buy a piece of equipment , use it , and then re sell it ?
May I tell you what I would think about doing if I owned this property?
A road or driveway can serve several functions. When I look at the picture I wonder if you might be able to cut in a driveway from a point somewhere at the bottom right of your picture, if there is a road there, and move across the property towards the top left, approximately on contour, across the gully's to the home site. The driveway can also act as a swale or Keyline, to capture and direct runoff water into the gullies. If you can also create a "dam" across the gully by running the road across said dam, then you can create a nice pond at the same time. So a driveway becomes a major part of your permaculture plan.
I guess I look at it more randomly, like I see mother nature plant. I am always amazed as I walk through a diverse forest and see how trees grow naturally.
In nature some trees grow big and tall and hog all of the sun, some grow under them. So I guess the way I would have to look at planting a food forest is sort of like a savanna of big trees with smaller and smaller trees underneath and around them. Designing this seems like it would be a lot of work to get it right. Considering succession, allelopathy, soils, water, as well as sun and shade. I have seen some pretty good food forests on you tube that seem pretty random that are doing just fine.
It seems that spacing for maximum sunlight would leave a lot of ground without trees ? Or am I missing the point?
I lost all of my pears , cherries and apples two and three years ago to blight. They all budded out just like that and I have let them grow just to see if they come back true. One cherry came back as a rootstock variety, One pear has fruit this year so we will see.
I think I would let it grow and see what you get. At the end of the day I think you could always graft back onto it?
Travis, spend every minute you have left giving your family great memories of you ! Spend some time writing down some thoughts to your children's future selves. Advise that they might need as they go through life. Show them strength and compassion. My prayers are for you and them tonight.
Lenn, I work in coal and gas fired power plants that produce steam to power turbines. and I think it is very doable. But heating water to steam is very dangerous business and would need to have a lot of safety equipment built into the system. Water quality is key, relief valves are essential. Lots of variables to control. So yes it can be done but who ever does it had better know what they are doing!
Looks like you are getting lots of ideas and good advise! Gotta love these permies folks.
I am pretty much doing the work alone, my wife comes up and helps when she can. My brother has helped with tree cutting and such. I have a back hoe and lots of tools so I just plug along. I am thinking the same as far as using it as a place to get away from the city. Someday I hope I can afford a "home " of some sort, but the camper is pretty nice and treats us well.
We have bear, mountain lion, and wolves(from Yellowstone) I have seen tracks and scat but never seen them. I had hoped to catch them on my game cameras but nothing yet. There are usually several neighbors around and they have seen them. I think with all of the people, dogs, activity, traffic, they stay clear of us for the most part. Actually the first week that we went up there, after buying the land, we were in a tent and a bear came through while we were out exploring. I still have the big Tupperware that has teeth marks where the bear got into our food and scattered it all over. We stopped tent camping after that and got the camper.
Great post Jay! I have only fished the Rockies most of my life so it is nice to see what others do. Is there a size limit? How big /small can they be to get a good filet from them?
We do pretty much the same here in Wyoming. Lots of little streams, with small trout . My favorite is using a fly fishing rig on a small stream in the spring. I have been places where the fly had not even hit the water before the brookies would come flying out of the water to grab it. Tons of fun but don't keep them as they are usually pretty small. Use hooks with no barbs to cut back on the damage.
If I may. The NW corner of the state is more touristy and lots of big money there. So the prices will be higher. If you take a look at a map of Wyoming you will also see mountains around Lander, Laramie, Buffalo, Sheridan, Greybull, and Casper . My place is near a town called Saratoga which is further west from Laramie. In the Medicine bow National forest. There are also smaller, sort of hidden mountain ranges all over that most people do not know about but are just as nice. The area around Lander is sort of a "banana belt" lots of farms and at one time grew a lot of fruit. Laramie has the University and Casper has a large community collage.
Howdy Jonathan, I will echo the landwatch site. They have lots of different realtors listing stuff, some good some bad. Let me know if you have any questions about Wyoming . If you find something there give me a holler, you might find some large parcels for very good prices but you will have to be sure of what you are actually getting. Sometimes there are online realtors who throw up pictures of the Teton mountains and buyers think that is what they are buying.
Will you need a job when you move ? What field do you work in? There are some areas in Wyoming that have lots of industry and supporting jobs to them.
Wyoming is a big state and the weather is different from place to place. The eastern 1/4 is warmer generally, the mountains get deeper snow and less wind. The desert areas can get some big wind and blizzards but if you can find one with small hills and canyons it is not to bad. Water and oil and gas drilling would be the biggest concern.
Ya the rhubarb really took off this year, we usually make a strawberry rhubarb crisp . I might take some to my sister in law as they are really getting into canning so we will see if she can come up with something yummy.