Ryan Oeschger wrote:I’m not sure if this should be here or in the Seppers thread...My husband was just at the last Homesteaders PDC and we supported the Kickstarter for the pdc prior. We are a family of soon to be five with two mutts that can sleep in the back of our truck. We are moving to Montana next year and need a base camp for a few days for property hunting in the spring (Aprilish). I would prefer to communicate directly with the rest of the details, but the main question I have is about our specific gapper fee total given the PDC info and/or other accommodation options.
Hi Dre and Ryan! Glad to hear Montana will be your new frontier!
Ah, it maybe wasn't clear (yet) that our gapper program has been replaced now with the bootcamp program (link here). We do still occasionally host Seppers (that thread is here), though you're right that with Ryan attending the PDC, and what you describe, this is a bit different. I'll send an e-mail to the one we have on file for Ryan.
Paul sits down with Evan, the first Ant in Ant Village. Paul asks Evan some introductory questions about how things have been going on his plot.
They start to go over the film, “Alone in the Wilderness, the story of Dick Proeneke. Paul sets out to try and figure out just how long it took Dick to build his cabin.
Paul compares what people are trying to do at ant village, as similar to the motivation Dick had which was to test himself, know if he can really survive a winter and live in the wilderness independently. Paul asks Evan his thoughts on whether that is something which inspired him to start out as an ant, and Evan agrees that ant village is his attempt at living alone in the wilderness. Paul and Evan discuss the changes at Wheaton Labs, and how the gappers have been so far with the new system. They go over the upcoming Super Weeks and free PDC.
Paul and Evan turn the conversation back to the film, trying to understand the order of operations Dick went through in setting up his homestead. Paul goes through the dates in the movie, going over some of the tools and wood Dick used. Paul gives a few highlights of Dick's methods and continues piecing together how long it's taking him to build his cabin.
Paul notices how at one point the film talks about Dick harvesting 48 poles and processing them by noon, which he considered a high achievement. After 24 days, the roof is starting to take shape on his cabin. Paul brings up one of the most remembered parts of the film, the impressive wooden hinges.
They go over some of the details with the roof, explaining how Dick used around 2 acres worth of moss to use as a roof cover. Paul describes the construction of Dick's outhouse, and Dick's uncanny ability to reuse unwanted materials.
Paul describes Dick's antics with a bear, and speculates on the logic behind the sizing of the cabin door. They discuss Dick's wood pile, his methods for cutting firewood. They mention a few more interesting aspects of Dick's homestead life, like the heat sources of his cabin, hunting and fishing, and the problems Dick has with bugs. Paul asks Evan how the
bug situation is at the lab, and Evan reports so far so good.
Toward the end of the podcast they reach the winter months of the film, and they give a few examples of what Dick does in the winter and spring. Evan brings up that in the movie it's pointed out that Dick Proeneke spent 35 years in the wilderness. Paul highly recommends the film, saying it is one of his top five. They leave the podcast to go over some of Evan's designs for his plot.
I use both a scythe and a string trimmer. The scythe is quiet, reasonable efficient, and impresses the hell out of the teenagers who work on my farm. However, it does need a certain amount of room to use, and takes a lot of practice to get the grass 2 inches from the fence post without getting the fence post.
This thread has some people's comments about their dogs and how they would not be troubling. I do sympathize with this and it might seem to an individual since their dog is not problematic that it should be allowed. However, I'd like to point out that people with problematic dogs usually don't understand the problems or see it differently. Therefore in a group or community setting it is actually inconsiderate to ask for an exception to be made... because it creates too much trouble for the organizers sorting out all the exceptions and having these prolonged discussions and considering your dogs one by one...sorry because I understand the bond and the need to keep your loved one (dog) in optimum condition which means allowed to be with you. But I believe you should just take this at face value and accept the stricture. The dogs are a side element in this endeavor... work till you find a good foster home for your loved one during your absence.
This saw continues to exceed expectations. Along with hedges, I have used it for quite a bit of ground work. It's often necessary for me to clear all growth around the foundation of houses. I use this before going in with my E-go saw. I can cut stuff one inch from the concrete, without risking the chain. The top sheer bar is rested against the concrete in these tight situations. Also very handy when cutting bushy materials that are being reduced for transport.
I've done quite a bit of work where I'm on my knees and advancing slowly with the saw on it's side. This is done under certain trees that send up dozens of little suckers. If those suckers are less than three quarters of an inch, I use my hedge cutter. When they are one to three inches, I use the Makita saw. There have been many situations where a larger saw might have been called for, but the Makita was right there, and I used it.
The top bar has been used against the edge of 2x4s when I'm doing rough framing. This stops it from bouncing around at the beginning of a cut.
Of all of the Makita tools that I have ever owned, this is the one that has performed the best.
Hello again permies. I've been back at the Ant Village for a few days, and work is moving forward on my house wall project. There will be more videos to follow on that, but for now I'd like to give you a look into what I was doing for part of last winter, a permaculture design and installation in the desert of Phoenix, Arizona. It was a great experience and turned out well, but was also a major motivation for me to pursue more education and skill building in permaculture landscaping, so I can do this sort of thing better and quicker. So starting June 12th, I will be attending the ecological landscaper immersion at the Permaculture Skills Center in California. I am very excited about this very in depth training, and the opportunities that will arise from it. If you would like to support me in this journey, I have a GoFundMe campaign going right now to help pay for tuition and expenses: https://www.gofundme.com/sendjessetotheeli
allerton abbey floor (can be done in winter)
- price depends on approach
explore water options to the south (lab)
- price depends on approach
add privacy screens to shower compost pile (pee palace) (can be done in winter)
- possibly a full design overhaul
add turtle paddock at basecamp (can be done in winter)
add submarine paddock at basecamp (can be done in winter)
add laundry paddock at basecamp (can be done in winter)
install improved pocket rocket in love shack
round door project
portable firewood shed $300 (can be done in winter)
- 6 feet wide, 8 feet long
- hinged roof; 6 feet tall at the back and 5 feet tall at the front. Roof rides low when moving or stored, but rides high when moving wood in and out.
- roof uses sawmill leftovers in a board and batton style. Not water proof, but will shed 98% of the water.
- holds a cord or a little more when full.
finish 10x10 wofati
finish 4" shippable core (can be done in winter)
- currently destined for the 10x10 wofati - so this has to wait until the 10x10 is done.
add dead end sign to the west
fixed roof porta-lumber shed $600 (can be done in winter)
- open air shed for stacking lumber.
- platform is 8 feet by 12.5 feet; triple 2x deck with air gaps
- Minimum standing height is 6.5 feet.
- lots of round wood. Shake roof.
- I supply the decking wood, screws and the shakes.
variable roof porta-lumber shed $600 (can be done in winter)
- roof is strapped on top of wood
- platform is 8 feet by 12.5 feet; triple 2x deck with air gaps
- lots of round wood. shake roof.
- I supply the decking wood, screws and the shakes.
create 1 acre community garden at lab $1750
- 1/2 acre of six foot tall hugelkultur - $200
- 100% good junkpole fence - $100 per 100 feet of fence
- Two very good gates (4 feet wide) with very good latches - $100 per gate
- One 12 foot wide gate for vehicles - $150
- 8 foot tall fence that can hold in chickens, and keep out deer, bears, and wild turkeys. Does not include planting.
- Excavator and tractor use provided.
- Screws, saws, drills, etc. not provided.
- $400 finishing bonus
three log benches ($20 each) (can be done in winter)
- about 8 at basecamp
- about 24 at lab
solar food dehydrator (can be done in winter)
office: (can be done in winter)
- drafts from walls
- general overhaul
finish rmh in the house (can be done in winter)
upgrade chateau de poo (can be done in winter)
- reduce metal vent pipe
- add rain diverter on vent pipe (keep water out of vent)
- add fly trap on vent pipe
- do not attach the seat to the base
- add summertime sink with foot pump
- upgrade decor
wofati freezer $10,000
water lines to shower at basecamp
- test lines
- come up with new buried line plans
finish all berms and hugelkultur beds at basecamp
arrange for small garage door on auditorium to get re-sprung (can be done in winter)
finish boneyard at basecamp
add bermsheds at lab boneyard
improve auditorium mezanine floor (can be done in winter)
- put in ceiling for little wood shop
need wofati style "bathroom" featuring pooper, shower, tub and sinks
overhaul for electric tractor $2480 (can be done in winter)
- weatherproofing $1200 (including materials)
- oil leaks (axle seals, front case, brake?, hydraulic filtration) $200 (including materials)
- new front tires + beet juice. New wheels? $80 (not including the cost of materials)
- lower the center of gravity with a belly weight $200 (not including the cost of materials)
- new back tires and wheels, much wider tires and wheels, add spacers on axels, beet juice in tires $200 (not including materials)
- get manual?
- finishing bonus $600
crossbow/bow shooting range
- improved "porch" space
plant living fence
- interior perimeter of lab (pearl road, mcdaniel road, pascal road)
- lab perimeter
insulate red cabin $400 (can be done in winter)
- includes walls, floor and ceiling.
rocket forge (can be done in winter)
overhaul the space between the fisher price house and the office with something beautiful and permaculture-ish
The following project is something that a deep roots person is putting some materials up for. I'm not a sauna guy, but I can see how this would be of value to some of the folks here. I would be willing to put some materials and a small bounty on this. Maybe others would be willing to put more behind this:
Thinking back now way too late for the OP, I remember that Michael Phillips recommends a couple inches of pea gravel at least a 1' radius around every tree. Apparently the voles don't like to dig through it they way they do through soil. Perhaps setting the pots on a thick gravel bed could help in his and similar set-ups.
thanks for posting this here. It is an important step and it does highlight something too often ignored in beekeeping discussions: the urgency to improve pollinator habitat as for example permaculture can help address. We have seen a decade of decline with honey bees and constant struggle for beekeepers, yet the focus is rarely on what the bees ingest or fail to obtain from the environment. On the other hand, there is no shortage of "sugar patties" recipes. This is the web of life being dismantled right in front of our noses. Same goes for the Monarch butterfly. Read the document - or better still, watch the bees foraging your garden!
I would like to suggest that the minny mouse and at rabbit designs are portable enough that they could be assembled and tested in a testing laboratory and get certified.
While I was day dreaming about the fat rabbit I came up with a way to hold the bricks in place on the inside. If rebar was welded to the base plate around the edge so that the bricks with three holes could be stacked over them through the center hole and on the next layer through the space between the ends of the bricks it would be very stable.
Seems like this could be built in three parts that two people could move, the base plate, batch box core/riser, and the outer barrel with the internal chimney and then the bricks to be stacked during assembly. Would it not be nice to have a certified rocket mass heater?
Juan Sebastian Estrada wrote:I could help writing a few summaries. This comes at a good time for me since I have listened to about the last 100 podcasts and I'm starting to sort through the older ones to see what captures my attention most. This way you can just tell me which ones to summarize. I normally listen to them while driving to and from work so I can't really write the summary as I drive, but I imagine it will go quicker the second time as I'm writing.
Great Juan! Would you send me an email at cassie AT richsoil DOT com and we can get something set up!
I think you're right about the barrel giving no actual push/pull, but even "easing the downdraft by being less hot" has value in a critical system where all the factors contribute to success.
Since the gas path after the riser needs to go downward in a typical RMH, it may be easier for that to happen if the gases in the barrel are distinctly cooler than in the riser. Relatively, the barrel gases are heavier than the riser gases and will tend to drop. If they were the same temperature there would be no inherent flow direction in that segment, and all the push/pull would have to be supplied by the chimney and possibly the feed/riser differential.
I figure that to get pork to fork costs about
10% Other such as infrastructure, etc
The rest is profit. (Yes, do the math. )
The way I make money on that is by doing each of these things myself as much as possible. Raising the piglets means I keep that 30%. Raising the feed or finding it means I keep part or all of the feed 30%. Doing the processing lets me keep that. Even with doing each step there are still some costs.
$200 for a feeder boar weaner piglet
$675 for a finished pig ($3.75/lbs @ 180 lbs)
Processing is additional.
Thus if they're supplying the piglet you might figure that the raising is worth ($675-$200)/6months = $80/month
Caveat: I'm raising about 400 pigs out on pasture so I am already doing the work and have the infrastructure in place - the economies of scale. This makes the $80/month work. Just doing one pig would be much more expensive since it would take a lot of time to do one pig. Fortunately, doing four pigs vs five pigs is not that different. It quickly scales. In between those numbers probably the answer.
Thanks y'all. Right now the "big" birds are in a kiddie pool out in the breezeway and the "little" birds are still in a brooder in the laundry room. They're all waiting for either their coop to be built or for my to send the "fat birds" to freezer camp so all these guys can move into the tractor.
I want to combine these two because I currently have FIVE DIFFERENT groups of birds all its driving me nuts. Guess I'll stick it out a few more weeks until the little guys are a bit bigger and no chick fluff.
Some materials are going to work better than others. The effectiveness of a cover mater is going to greatly depend on it's ability to mat and create a screen against flies. Personally, I use shredded office or newspaper. The finer the shred, the better it covers. I'm sure sawdust would also work great and would be readily available at any saw mill.
Maybe show dogs can be given treats when performing, but when a dog is running an agility course, there are no treats allowed. The dog can't even wear a collar! Of course, by the time you are competing, the dog is doing it for the joy of doing it.
The only downside of feeding each and every bit of kibble by hand is your hands get all dog-slimed. If you are an ant, working outside in not-fancy clothes, this is probably not a big problem.
I lost track of checking in on the dailyish for a while due to family/ living situation stress, and I have to say coming back to a more frequent check in, the format is great, especially off grid on slow internet. Cassie I would KISS you if it didn't freak people out being KISSed by strangers from northern California.
Butchering Poultry, Rabbit, Lamb, Goat, and Pork: The Comprehensive Photographic Guide to Humane Slaughtering and Butchering
I looked through this book today at the library. I will be buying my own copy.
Here is the description from amazon;
Using detailed, step-by-step photography of every stage of the process, Adam Danforth shows you exactly how to humanely slaughter and butcher chickens and other poultry, rabbits, sheep, pigs, and goats. From creating the right pre-slaughter conditions to killing, skinning, keeping cold, breaking the meat down, and creating cuts of meat you’ll recognize from the market, Danforth walks you through every step, leaving nothing to chance. He also covers food safety, freezing and packaging, and tools and equipment. This comprehensive reference is the only guide you need to successfully, safely, and humanely slaughter and butcher your own animals.
Joel Salatin wrote the foreward.
Link to Adam Danforth's Beef butchering book - I haven't read this book, but it is whats missing.
You can do OK with just a pocket stone, but if you want to get your tools to the point where you can shave or split paper, you need to finish off on a higher stone grit and maybe even a buffing compound with a strop. Since water stones can be expensive, a better option (if you're afraid of the investment or you won't be sharpening often) is to use (wet/dry)? sand paper on glass. This is still more expensive than water stones in the long run though, because the paper will rip. Paul Sellers explains this technique in the video.
I apologize for the fact that the following has damn little to do with this thread. But you have triggered my favorite pizza memory.
In 1983 when I was a young teen, my father and I spent four months by ourselves in a tent camp on the upper 70-mile river in Alaska. We were looking for gold, which we did not find in appreciable quantities. We were living fairly primitively, with one dog to bark at bears, sleeping tents, a wall tent to cook in, a wood cook stove, a folding Coleman camp oven, and such shelf-stable canned and dried food staples as we had freighted (packed in 55-gallon steel bear-resistant storage drums) over fifty miles of winter-only trail behind snowmobiles the winter before. It was our fourth year of such living and we were getting good at it, but it was the first year my mother did not join us, and she had such a low opinion of our camp cookery skills that she feared we would starve.
In fact, we lived high on the hog. Sunday was baking day; we made three dried-apple pies and three pans of whole wheat cinnamon rolls with raisins and walnuts, and ate them for breakfast (we each got one-quarter of a pie and 3 of 12 cinnamon rolls each morning) throughout the mining week. (This was our revolt after three years in which my mother insisted that the only practical breakfast foods in mining camp was oatmeal or pancakes. We were royally sick of both.) On baking day we also made enough loaves of bread for our daily lunch peanut butter or cheese sandwiches. Dinners were stuff like pasta and rice and beans, with whatever game we could get or a bit of canned bacon for flavor when we didn't have game.
We were about fifty miles from the nearest town (where we lived) and there were NO other people within about twenty very rough walking miles. Some time in August, we saw our first other humans. We called them "the California boys" because they were prospectors from California. They came floating down the river on a makeshift raft, with a floating plastic suction dredge. But when we met them, they were *hungry*. Their idea of mining rations had been Lipton dried soup mixes and rice, and they had zero notion of how to pack such things securely. At the first white water they had dumped their raft, and most of their dried soup got wet and dissolved. The rice, too, mostly got wet and then it got moldy so they threw it away. By the time we met them, they had been living for a couple of weeks on tiny grayling (think trout, but the ones they were catching were the size of large minnows) and the few packets of cup-o-noodle they had that had turned out to be waterproof.
So, naturally, we invited them to dinner. We did it up fine. We made a fresh mincemeat pie (using our last quart mason jar of my mother's extremely rich home-canned mincemeat made with actual ground moose and many dried fruits and spices) and individual pizzas for everybody, served on special "plates" I had made from thin rounds of cottonwood cut with a chainsaw from a huge cottonwood log and varnished with vegetable oil. Dough was just our usual bread dough, rolled thin and put on pizza pans in our camp oven over a red-hot wood stove. Sauce was our usual pasta sauce, from canned tomato paste flavored with dried onion, garlic powder, dehydrated green peppers, and grease from canned bacon. For toppings we had dried parmesan cheese, the last of our carefully hoarded "fresh" cheddar cheese (which keeps amazingly well if you wrap it in vinegar-soaked cloths to prevent mold), fried bits of the canned bacon, and canned black olives.
The California boys were so astonished they could barely close their mouths long enough to chew. They had got it in their heads that if you went into the Alaskan wilderness in search of gold, you had to "rough it". Which meant, to them, taking just the minimum of provisions that you could "cook" in a coffee can over a camp fire. Finding us camped in comfort in the middle of what was (to them) trackless wilderness, serving pizza and pie to strangers, just completely blew their minds. We had to keep repeating our mantra: "We aren't out here to rough it, we're out here to smooth it!"
Let me try to drag this back on topic. I am imagining a husp pizza, made there on the Lab with ingredients grown Paul's way: a simple water-flour-yeast crust using whatever grain (perennial wheat?) ya got, fresh or sun-dried tomatoes, onions and garlic, cheese from whatever milk animal is handy, a couple of meat toppings from whatever was recently butchered, a couple of fresh vegetable toppings. Has anybody built a rocket pizza oven yet? I'm hungry just thinking about it! (Notwithstanding my earlier comments, I'm not sure price is really even relevant; a product like that is unobtainable in the broader world, and is thus quite literally priceless.)
I would think that there are so many old bikes lying around that you could probably find one for free or very cheap that you could salvage another derailleur off of or just ride the "new" to you bike. back when i was all into tricking out my bike (which eventually got stolen) I replaced my pulleys with aluminum and they did fine. I'm really bad about bike maintenance in general and will ride until something breaks. I don't ride everyday either, btw.
Bird flu losses likely to top 20M with new cases in Iowa.
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Agriculture officials say five more farms likely have been affected by the deadly H5N2 bird flu virus, including an egg-laying operation with 5.5 million chickens.
Thursday's announcement means Midwest losses will top 20 million turkeys and chickens.
Iowa Secretary of Agriculture Bill Northey says more than 15 million of Iowa's 60 million egg-laying chickens are now affected with the news of it spreading to another farm in Buena Vista County.
Thursday's numbers include two turkey farms in the same county with an unknown number of birds, an egg-laying farm in Sioux County with 84,000 chickens and an unknown number of chickens on a Clay County egg farm.
Minnesota also reported three new presumed cases, adding another 35,000 turkeys to the state's total of almost 4 million birds killed or euthanized.
Mike McPherson wrote:I really appreciate all the help. I feel like a dolt not calling on the community sooner. Along this line of nutrient deficiency. We have have very hard water that is also treated with chloramine. I had been adding about 2 teaspoons of ascorbic acid which is buffered with calcium with the intent of complexing the chloramine. Am I unintentionally binding up the magnesium? If I recall from Dr Inghams soil food Web course, fungi are essential in the mobilization of non soluable calcium so if no fungi there is calcium binding up all the magnesium... If there are resources people can point me to for more information about soil chemistry that would be fantastic.
A. You're not a dolt. Welcome to gardening. If there weren't challenges like this and people like permies to help out, where would the fun be?
B. Don't overthink nutrient issues at the seedling stage. I think a good rule of thumb is to pot up after 30 days, otherwise provide a gentle and diverse feed such as fish emulsion 1X per week.
C. After you feed or try a corrective measure, look at the new growth. Tomatoes put on growth quickly once roots are going. You'll learn more by looking at the new growth than worrying about the cruddy looking older stuff.
I'd suggest you let them out in the afternoon/evenings after a few days. They'll want to return to the coop before it gets too dark. If any do not return, they've only had a few hours to wander off and shouldn't be too hard to find. Check under stuff, behind garbage cans and boxes, they'll be hiding.
Increase yard time as you see fit.
As far as a timeline.... Are they fully feathered? If so they're good to go. They'll just have to watch out for/learn about predators.