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Michael Qulek
Post     Subject: Sneaky solar - renters solar

What about the lineman working outside up on the pole?  With a PROPERLY installed grid-tie system, there is an automatic disconnect (transfer switch), that automatically shuts down solar production when the grid goes down.  That's to keep the electricity from the solar inverter from energizing the wiring the lineman (linewoman) is working on.  I'm guessing the current from 9one panel is not going to kill a lineman, but if there is some current, it might be detectable with their equipment, and repair operations might be brought to a complete halt, until the linemen can determine were that current is coming from.  What are the neighbors going to think when they find out that their power stayed off longer than needed because of someone's solar panel.  The words eviction and criminal charges come to mind.
Leigh Tate
Post     Subject: Sneaky solar - renters solar

C├ęcile Stelzer Johnson wrote:How about NOT incorporating this device into the existing system at all? Incorporating the system to the local grid sounds really difficult to someone like me [without any kind of knowledge in electric systems] and potentially dangerous. But I could see several mini-systems, separate from each other.


That's what we're doing. Whole house solar is beyond our budget, so we prioritized needs and decided to make a small system to power only my freezer and a small chest fridge. We're not renters, so we can make a hole in the wall for a cable conduit, but our system is small and independent from the grid. If we needed to, we could disassemble everything and take it with us if we ever moved.
Doug Kalmer
Post     Subject: Sneaky solar - renters solar

Cristo Balete wrote:All I am trying to say is that this original poster is suggesting kluging together two things, two solar electricity things, intentionally to avoid it being to code, to avoid it being a proper and safe system, to avoid taking the bigger picture into consideration.  avoid taking the landlady's dwelling into consideration, or taking the grid into consideration.   When dealing with electricity all of that is really important.

People who don't know about solar may think that this person is telling them, all you need is a panel, take a gizmo like the one in the picture, and you can run your stuff off one one panel, no matter what the stuff is.   People might think they don't have to know about electricity, they don't have to know about DC and AC.  What if somebody thinks everything you need is built into the panel?  I've seen that in forums all over the place.

I didn't mean this to question anyone's system, or any situation's code, or anything like that.  



I think you are missing the idea behind the OP's guerrilla solar- it is essentially a small grid tied system. The grid supplies all the power appliances need, the solar just offsets some of that. No controllers or disconnects needed. I am not vouching for the safety of the installation nor recommending it. Doug
Cristo Balete
Post     Subject: Sneaky solar - renters solar

All I am trying to say is that this original poster is suggesting kluging together two things, two solar electricity things, intentionally to avoid it being to code, to avoid it being a proper and safe system, to avoid taking the bigger picture into consideration.  avoid taking the landlady's dwelling into consideration, or taking the grid into consideration.   When dealing with electricity all of that is really important.

People who don't know about solar may think that this person is telling them, all you need is a panel, take a gizmo like the one in the picture, and you can run your stuff off one one panel, no matter what the stuff is.   People might think they don't have to know about electricity, they don't have to know about DC and AC.  What if somebody thinks everything you need is built into the panel?  I've seen that in forums all over the place.

I didn't mean this to question anyone's system, or any situation's code, or anything like that.