Natalie Hogg

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Nancy Reading wrote:I like both your designs - the way you can go in various directions from the shed is good. Are you going to collect rainwater from the roof? You can at least direct it to adjacent plants that might appreciate a little more water (rhubarb?). Do you have a water source on site? Can you use a hose or do you need to use a watering can? Having easy access to carrying water is worth a thought, although obviously you would want to minimise that.
Are you planning on perennials at all? Those (once established) ought to be more drought tolerant.
I find small beds can be difficult to prepare and plant - those might be ideal for perennials, or support plants though.

Other things to consider perhaps:
Is 4 feet the right width of beds for you. Most gardening books seem to suggest that, but I find it a little wide to reach the middle by hand.
Having regular sized beds can make it easier to set up protecting structures for season extension or insect/bird netting, if this is something you are likely to want to do.
It looks like you are thinking of a 4 year rotation. Does this fit with the plants you actually want to grow, or will a 5 or 6 year rotation ft better? I do a simple 4 year rotation, mainly because I lose track and each time have to work out from remembering what one of my plots had, where everything else must have been. I can never remember which way round I am going either! But I haven't got clever enough to work out how much I need of anything - I'm just happy when something grows for me!
What is going on your paths? A grass path can be a useful source of mulch (and a less useful source of weeds...) but having a path the right width for your mower makes life easier.

I love planning gardens! Good luck for a super season next year. I would look to try and get some green manures in, and maybe some overwintering crops like broad beans? winter radish might be another possibility.



Yes I intend to collect water there are three waterbutts that came with the plot, but aren't currently connected to the shed roof. There is a communal water tower on site, it is watering can only.

I already have rhubarb on the plot, I think it needs dividing. I would like to get more perennials eventually, a fruit tree in the central circle at least but it is unlikely the first year. Any more perennials I get I plan to stick in the outer edge beds.

I copied the bed and path measurements from a CSA non profit I volunteer at, I can kneel on those paths and reach the middle from a kneel.

I'm not sure about using netting, the CSA doesn't use it, so I hadn't thought about it and was planning on going with cold hardy crops and cover cropping for winter mostly, with the cold frame to supplement.

This is my first time growing a garden myself so I thought a four year rotation was as complicated as I wanted to take things. Are there plants that need a longer rotation?

I don't have access to power so mowing at the plot would be difficult, though grass would make a good mulch source. There is a free pile of wood chips that gets replenishes on site so that's probably what I will use for my paths.

I'm vaguely planning that for my first year I only get two of the segments up and running with 'proper' production and cover the other two with cover crops and pollinator plants. Winter cover cropping/ winter veg planting the first segments isn't bad shout, will that work as I plan to use the cardboard with compost and biomass overwinter bed set up method?



Tereza Okava wrote:Hey Natalie, that's a good-sized plot you have there! How exciting!! I like your design, the only thing I would add is to think about how shade/sun will work as the sun moves across the sky (planting taller things so they don't shade out the littler ones, etc). Other than that, looks great and I look forward to seeing how it all grows up for you!! If you're in 9a, you should be able to start some things right away, are you getting any rain?



Sadly we are currently in a drought there are some potato plants from the previous plot holder that are holding on but everything I've put in the ground while clearing has just not germinated at all from how dry it is.
Hi I'm new to growing.
I've just finished cutting back the brambles on my new allotment plot and am looking at designing the goal layout of the plot.

I am in Cornwall England, hardiness zone 9a. My plot has little to no shade so I've decided to re orient my shed to form some shade to sit in. I am trying to feed two adults on a budget, bonus if I can share extra and would like my plot to also be visually interesting and a nice place to be.
I would also like to use this plot to work on some of the SKIP projects, although tall hugely type structures aren't allowed. I have to ask permission to add sheds, poly tunnels, greenhouses, trees and ponds.

How do you decide on a garden layout?
Can you see any problems with my initial idea sketches?
Beds are the greyed out zones

Edited to add dimensions: plot is 9.7 by 12.6 meters my initial designs are based on 4ft main paths 2 foot small paths and 4 ft beds

Photos of the plots current condition included
This is my plot in Cornwall. I have only had it for a couple of months most of which has been spent cutting back weeds, very little of what I planted grew but the potatoes that volunteered seem happy.
My plan is to dig out the bramble nodes when I dig out the potatoes, then cardboard, unfinished compost compost and wood chip as much as I can on the cheap. Then find something to act as a cover crop for the rest, maybe wildflower meadow it.
I also want to install a cold frame, twist the shed 90 degrees and actually attach the water butts to the shed roof. So very busy autumn and winter ahead of me.
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Textiles
Sand - sew a patch
     - knit a dish cloth
Straw - sew a bib front apron
     - patch a sofa
     - invisibly mending an item of clothing
     - conceal a stain
    - sew a zokin
   - sew a feminine pad

Pending- invisibly darn a knit
             - sew a button
Greywater
Sand - reuse dishwater

Nest
Sand - do washing up by hand
      - clean a kitchen
     - manually clean an oven
     - make rags from old clothes
Straw - wipe down windows
        - clean interior of a fridge

Foraging
Sand - make a cup of tea
Sand - forage 2lbs of fresh fruit (elderberries)

Food prep
Sand - cook grain on a cooker (rice)
Sand - make soup
Converting a skirt from hooks and eyes to buttons because the new washing machine keeps destroying them 😭
6 months ago
Holey sock,
Getting good photos black on black is hard
7 months ago
Roasted tomato soup intended to feed 4 with bread
12 large tomatoes
2 onions
2 sticks of celery
2 tiny sad carrots
2 potatoes
Bunch of fresh basil

Roast for 20 minutes
Put in soup pot with water simmer until very soft
Blend
Textiles
Sand - sew a patch
     - knit a dish cloth
Straw - sew a bib front apron
     - patch a sofa
     - invisibly mending an item of clothing
     - conceal a stain
    - sew a zokin
   - sew a feminine pad

Greywater
Sand - reuse dishwater

Nest
Sand - do washing up by hand
      - clean a kitchen
     - manually clean an oven
     - make rags from old clothes
Straw - wipe down windows
        - clean interior of a fridge

Foraging
Sand - make a cup of tea
Sand - forage 2lbs of fresh fruit (elderberries)

Food prep
Sand - cook grain on a cooker (rice)