5G global experiment for the profit of the few at the expense of the many

5G is going to be tens to a hundred times worse than 4G, they're going to beam it down from space and infiltrate the public sphere with arials every 100 metres on every street on the planet. They have no furrow idea what they are doing, to us or the natural world, neither do they care, they just want to line their fat pockets and if there are going to be problems after, they have already made sure with their politician friends, they cannot be held accountable. Once more, we are being sacrificed at the altar of infinite growth and "progress". Why all this? Because they want us to have a Internet of Things, where everything is connected to everything, your fridge can notice your milk is out of date, which will call Amazon which will sent a drone with fresh milk, which will tell your robot to open the frontdoor, your robot will take the new milk and place it in the fridge. Stuff like that, they want us to have, to speed up this insane ponsi scheme economy and life we are supposed to cheer-lead. Oh yeah, and you can download all the episodes of Dallas in a second...
If you're like me and do not care for Internet of Things or the series of Dallas at the expense of the additional risk of heart disease and cancer and many, many more ill effects and if you do not want them to risk the planet's health in general, there's this petition to sign which contains  loads of links with proper information by scientists.

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disclaimer if you happen to love Dallas, it was just an example.

Public interest and the general populace drive things like this.  If Joe average wasn't screaming for faster internet,  the profits wouldn't be there. I never understand the animosity towards companies that give people what they are begging for.  

Trace Oswald wrote:Public interest and the general populace drive things like this.  If Joe average wasn't screaming for faster internet,  the profits wouldn't be there. I never understand the animosity towards companies that give people what they are begging for.  

I'm in the animosity camp because I'm begging to not have my health trashed by this. To me it's like smoking, if you can do it so it affects no one else, feel free, but as soon as you are affecting people who do not wish to be affected, it's a problem. I do NOT wish to be affected by 5g. So to me it's a pollutant that will be hard to avoid and that's why I'm hostile about it.
Not everyone begs for the same things. Why don't I get what *I* beg for? Why do they?

Reality here is I deliberately bought land to build my home on that is out of range of most things like 5g, most cell towers, etc. I chose to avoid it as best I can.

Pearl Sutton wrote:

Trace Oswald wrote:Public interest and the general populace drive things like this.  If Joe average wasn't screaming for faster internet,  the profits wouldn't be there. I never understand the animosity towards companies that give people what they are begging for.  

I'm in the animosity camp because I'm begging to not have my health trashed by this. To me it's like smoking, if you can do it so it affects no one else, feel free, but as soon as you are affecting people who do not wish to be affected, it's a problem. I do NOT wish to be affected by 5g. So to me it's a pollutant that will be hard to avoid and that's why I'm hostile about it.
Not everyone begs for the same things. Why don't I get what *I* beg for? Why do they?

Reality here is I deliberately bought land to build my home on that is out of range of most things like 5g, most cell towers, etc. I chose to avoid it as best I can.

Pearl, I completely understand and I bought land "out in the sticks" for the same reason.  I'm simply saying that the companies that provide the service aren't to blame.  Until you can get the average person on board and actually caring about something beyond being able to stream movies to every device in the house at the same time, nothing will change.  Like most things, the average person clamors for faster speeds, and then later will be completely outraged that having a tower every 5 feet impacts their life.  Humans for the most part are extremely short-sighted.

Trace, i can understand your sentiment, however. People want this 5G, you're saying, but that's not true really. They want faster internet, not cancer or autism for children or dead bees. Have a look at the link i've provided, people do not even know what they're in for, so then it's not a free honest choice we're given. Children and babies do not understand the risks and have no vote. Neither does the natural world. I wouldn't be hateful for these companies if they weren't deceptive, hiding behind their multi-billion advertisement budgets.
We do not have a say anyway, there might be some fringe party planning to agenda this subject, main parties, just deal behind the scenes all pro 5G. We have no say, or we would have a referendum,people vote about risking our planet, we have no real democracies, therefore in my opinion.
Everybody wants faster internet you claim,that is not true, my internet is fast enough, sorry. I can skype to people the world all over while live streaming music. That people are generally never very satisfied with what they have, i can agree with. That's not being fixed by faster internet. Speed is relative.
There are many examples of things we didn't properly investigate before admitting it to the market place. What good did smoking do, really, except for looking cool? Cars were invented and used as a substitute for horses because the cities were full of dung. See where that led us. Endless perpetual wars for oil, climate change, traffic jams. If people would have had a referendum on allowing car technology at that time knowing what we know now, i doubt they would go along. But there was no choice, and there is no choice now, where there should be a choice.

Hugo: you are very right.

people do not even know what they're in for, so then it's not a free honest choice we're given.

Were we even given a choice? I don't recall seeing anyplace to vote for this, or any official type person asking me what I want. I am seeing the companies saying "because some people want it, all of you will have it inflicted on you." That's not a choice. That's being steamrolled by big companies to make more money by hooking the emotions of people who don't think long term.

There are many examples of things we didn't properly investigate before admitting it to the market place.

Yes, and there are graveyards filled with the people who paid the ultimate price for that. There have been no solid studies of it's safety, and people who understand it say it's dangerous. If we are all going to have something inflicted on us, I wish it were properly tested first.

But there was no choice, and there is no choice now, where there should be a choice.

And THAT is why it bothers me. We claim to be smarter than that, but it's all happening again, with no choices and too much money involved, and no data that points to it being safe.

We are supposed to be wiser than this :(