Dan Allen wrote:Steve, you must be in a pretty good zone to be able to grow both muscadine and table grapes.
I have been trying to grow grapes for years. I've planted reliance, red canadice, Niagara and Concord. The only one I've had production from is the Concord, which was supposed to be seedless but has small hard seeds. The fruit is excellent though, so I don't mind the seeds. I've planted every seed I got. I've also been selecting seeds from wild grapes that have larger than usual fruits and good flavor.
Artie Scott wrote:Very helpful Steve, thank you very much. I like your Fall answer! That gives me a bit more time to plan. Can you post a pic of your trellis when you get a chance?
Steve Thorn wrote:I found these wild black muscadine grapes hanging down from a tree near my food forest. The vine has to be about 30 feet long, as the branch connects to the trunk about 15 feet off the ground and the branch that drapes down is about 15 feet long.
It's hard to beat just picking fresh fruit, with no other work involved.
This vine has a very good strong flavor and made for a tasty snack during my walk through the food forest.
Steve Thorn wrote:I grow most of my grapes on a double wire trellis about 6 ft off the ground.
Dan Allen wrote:The only one I've had production from is the Concord, which was supposed to be seedless but has small hard seeds. The fruit is excellent though, so I don't mind the seeds.
Dennis Bangham wrote:I will have to try again with grapes. I kept getting hit with black spot and of course birds would devour the rest.
So I took them out and used the area for Hardy Kiwi.
I am now buying the lot next door and will have to take out a forest of twigs and small pines. It was a forest before getting cleared for a house that was never built so the soil should be good.
I get as much wood chips as I can handle so will work on the soil for a couple of years before making this 0.6 acres into a small food forest.