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Pearl Sutton wrote:When you get a text from your respectable neighbor lady that says "A huge branch came down out of my tree. Do you want it for your burning stuff in the dirt thing?" "Yes please!" Yay biochar fodder!
Is a huge branch too. Took me creative work to move it by myself.
Stubbornness can be an art form.
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I have a neighbor who has become a friend, there is a retaining wall on our shared border, onto which we leave offerings for each other (mostly him leaving for me...) which include tree limbs, random metal finds, other "useful" things before relegating them to the trash.
There's a failing section that needs rebuilding, and we are going to rebuild that section as stairs.
I have a couple other friends who also pick up and save things that they have come to know I am interested in, even if they aren't quite sure what they have found they think of me and save them.

Nails are sold by the pound, that makes sense.
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when it's spring!
And an old maid's thoughts turn to how to crawl through a garden bed without killing the volunteer daikons, and on how to carefully loosen the soil for seeds without hurting the worms.

Gardens in my mind never need water
Castles in the air never have a wet basement
Well made buildings are fractal -- equally intelligent design at every level of detail.
Bright sparks remind others that they too can dance
What I am looking for is looking for me too!

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You get a bit too excited about finding no fewer than 3 wild passion fruit vines while dewberry picking, and take a little time to try to decide where to put them in the new garden - because leaving them out with the goldenrod and dewberries means they might get over-run with poison ivy, so ... Gotta move them. And that means building a trellis and *that* means ... you have a use for some of the small trees that got cut in the previous fence clearing so YAY!

Your chickens have gotten so good at picking ripe mulberries, there's a dearth of them in the lower branches of the Big Tree and you start thinking about where you can move the new sprouts and young mulberry trees/shrubs so you can have more to harvest in a few years - and researching keeping the mulberries at a decent size since, really, two large trees are enough and mulberry shrubs/bushes will be more productive.

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your neighbors know you as the folks "with the tall grass."

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You're happy because you have lots of Dandelion flowers blooming!

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When an acquaintance invites you out to squash...
And you're wondering, "summer, or spaghetti?"

Be the shenanigans
you want to see in the world.

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You thank your husband for reminding you of the exciting Christmas present due to arrive tomorrow, hopefully.
You are also grateful he understands that a shipment of special chicken chicks showing up is cause for setting alarms and rearranging the kitchen and he helps out with getting things ready for The Arrival!!!
(You already have feed and other supplies ready, but it is very much like Christmas, and your birthday, and a few other things - they might not show up until later, there might be a delay, .... I haven't felt this excited about a surprise in awhile.)

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You know you're a Permie when having a chicken in your kitchen is a fairly normal occurrence. Granted, she's in a large tote, with her hatching eggs and chick and a wire cover, and she glares at me with the kind of look only broody hens and exasperated mothers seem to have, but ... chicken in the kitchen. It must be a Thursday.

You have conversations about where you should mow, if only because you want a chance to pick all the wild forage out of the area before it gets cut back. It's understood that certain plants are to be left alone. In fact, plants were correctly identified without your input and the larger stands of them were left to set seed.

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You know you're a Permie when you see milkweed growing out on the ranch road and know that the Monarch Butterflies will be looking for it in the fall.

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Anne Miller wrote:You know you're a Permie when you see milkweed growing out on the ranch road and know that the Monarch Butterflies will be looking for it in the fall.

When you see a monarch in your garden WAY early, and you tell it "I'm sorry! I have no milkweed for you!!"

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Anne Miller wrote:You know you're a Permie when you see milkweed growing out on the ranch road and know that the Monarch Butterflies will be looking for it in the fall.

When you see a monarch in your garden WAY early, and you tell it "I'm sorry! I have no milkweed for you!!"

You know your sister's a permie when she tells you that she planted milkweed in the garden specifically for the Monarch butterflies. She also runs a rescue, grow, release project in her home for eggs/catepillars in need of respite from danger! She knows where all the patches of milkweed are within walking distance in her community!

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Kristine Keeney wrote:You know you're a Permie when having a chicken in your kitchen is a fairly normal occurrence. Granted, she's in a large tote, with her hatching eggs and chick and a wire cover, and she glares at me with the kind of look only broody hens and exasperated mothers seem to have, but ... chicken in the kitchen. It must be a Thursday.

You have conversations about where you should mow, if only because you want a chance to pick all the wild forage out of the area before it gets cut back. It's understood that certain plants are to be left alone. In fact, plants were correctly identified without your input and the larger stands of them were left to set seed.

The whole first year we were here, we kept getting UPS deliveries sent back, saying no one lived here, because I wouldn't let John mow anything - as an herbalist & wanna-be forager, I wanted to know what grew on these 29acres, where, when it broke ground, leafed out, blossomed, bloomed, fried, faded, and died, lol.

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Kristine Keeney

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Carla Burke wrote:The whole first year we were here, we kept getting UPS deliveries sent back, saying no one lived here, because I wouldn't let John mow anything - as an herbalist & wanna-be forager, I wanted to know what grew on these 29acres, where, when it broke ground, leafed out, blossomed, bloomed, fried, faded, and died, lol.

I haven't had a problem with things being sent back, but I have had trouble convincing people that, in fact, "Yes, People do live here." That our mailbox spent about 5 years listing to the side didn't help.
Our yard is always green, because the mishmash of wild plants and wild grasses (and various "domesticated grasses" and other "civilized" plants) do better when left alone. We never mow shorter than 3 inches and try to Not Mow or till or disturb what's going on until after things have had a chance to seed, or do whatever they do.

With the neighbor "helpfully" scalping the front and now entire side yard near him, I miss having the long native grasses that had gotten established that I had been using for nest lining. I miss the dewberries that would have come from the vines he shredded. I'm trying to be philosophical about it - we didn't meet their standards for yard care and they are helping - but it can be hard when I think about the native iris that used to grow in the side yard, or the stand of dock the geese would eat back every summer. I have native iris in other places and the dock is like the goldenrod - everywhere - but not having them *there* is ... hard.

Fences make good neighbors, I guess. Being a Permie means that I have been able to "show, not tell" and my neighbors now allow their chickens yard time to roam and we talk about how we deal with predators and finding chicks. They like watching the geese who like watching their goats, so we end up talking about that, too.

You know you're a Permie when : what should be an ordinary thing, like mowing, becomes a deep topic with many many layers. You are able to show the variety of native plant species and can explain carefully that soil stewardship can be complicated.
I'm still watching the yard to see what wanders in or gets gifted by passing birds. Wild passion flower turned up and I'm excited!

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One has to drive through an old cemetery to get to my house. Even after driving through the cemetery, my house in not visible. A driveway that is arched by a number of trees and shrubs must be confronted. Even with detailed directions, for the first 15 years I lived here maybe 50% of the people seeking my house found it.

At my age, Happy Hour is a nap.

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John F Dean wrote:One has to drive through an old cemetery to get to my house. Even after driving through the cemetery, my house in not visible. A driveway that is arched by a number of trees and shrubs must be confronted. Even with detailed directions, for the first 15 years I lived here maybe 50% of the people seeking my house found it.

Yup! We're a bit over 4yrs here now, and we still have to lead new folks in, and sometimes even folks who have been here, a couple times, lol.

The only thing...more expensive than education is ignorance.~Ben Franklin

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When you plant a rare species of milkweed, because there is a creature who loves it to eat especially: yourself... The species in question is poke milkweed. I haven't eaten many shoots yet, but the flowers taste like honey.

When you hold it all day because the toilet doesn't lead into the compost heap.

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. -Proverbs 4:7

Pearl Sutton

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When you are going to bed, very tired, and see something in your bed... Ack!! A tick!?
No...
It was a yucca seed from a pod that dumped seeds into my hair as I was pulling weeds in that area.

Looked like a tick though!

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When you're in the passenger seat going through town, and at a stop sign, notice all the dandelions in the yard next to you - and SERIOUSLY consider popping out of the car to grab a few heads that are going to seed, to take home to plant in your own yard.

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...when you won't flush the toilet all day when you just pee, BUT! you will flush a cockleburr, because I swear they will sprout in concrete, and I don't trust them in the trash.

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"If your knees aren't green by the end of the day, you ought to seriously re-examine your life." ~ Bill Watterson

What if you have compost between your toes?

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If you have compost between your toes, you're living the Good Life.

You know you're a Permie when you are on your hands and knees, getting an egg from under the porch, and realize that you just found a wonderful new spot for enriched compost - the chickens have been going under the porch for the last 8 years. It's layered chicken poop and the bedding I throw under there to make it cleaner for all those times I have to crawl under to fetch something. I HAVE A NEW COMPOST BIN AND IT'S READY TO GO! I just have to figure out how I'm going to rake/scoop it out. Hand tools, obviously, but should I drag a tarp under there and try using a hand cultivator (The Claw-thing!), or ....

I just got three new garden seedling and this gives me more than enough good stuff to make the unturned lawn a (hopefully) wonderfully fertile garden.

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When you see fresh growth of nettles and you think "great mulch!" * rather than "Weed!"

* great food/ fibre plant / tea ingredient / animal feed.....

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When you notice the plantains that are growing along the side and ends of what's supposed to be a potato patch - okay, it's two short rows with one sprouted potato plant (I think I did different things wrong than last year....meh ... it means I can plant something else there later, and the potato pieces will help the soil) - and you start thinking about plantain salve and all the good that the plants can bring. I'm enjoying weeding the grass that's sprouting up in the garden, not enjoying weeding out the other seedlings if I can't identify them. I'll scatter something I do know how to ID over the areas later. Maybe flowers!

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Kristine Keeney wrote:You know you're a Permie when you are on your hands and knees, getting an egg from under the porch, and realize that you just found a wonderful new spot for enriched compost - the chickens have been going under the porch for the last 8 years.

And more to the point -- when you recognize this as a bonus, a great opportunity, rather than a problem/headache.

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An acquaintance asked me if I'd take a box of bare root everbearing strawberry babies that she'd weeded out of her way...
I found a spot for 22 of them - hardly made a dent it seemed!
I potted up 18 of them on spec - 9 each went to my friends T and L
Turns out my friend B was out of town but her son was around, so he picked up the rest of the box and reported he got 20 more potted up.

That's 60 babies spread around 4 families! They may not all make it - this happened on the two hottest, sunniest days we've had since last August, which is *not* good plant rescuing weather. But they're self-replicating, so even if we loose some, I think we can all look forward to some berries in our futures!

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Brian Jeffrey wrote:If your family member excitedly tells you " I took the grass from where I put the new flower garden, and used it to patch the bare spots in the lawn!", you might be a permie . . . .

...Then, confused, you ask, "why? I was going to seed dandelions there."

Isn't it great that food just falls up out of the ground?

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Hi Tammi,

Welcome to Permies.

At my age, Happy Hour is a nap.

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When weeding the berry patch, you leave the juiciest, tastiest dandelions for breeding your dandelion landrace. 🌼

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When the first splatters of rain send you running...

Why are you running Ms Pearl? Are you afraid the rain will mess up your hairdo and your makeup? Nope.
Are you worried you'll get mud on your feet? Nope.

I ran to grab the clover seed I wanted to put into the areas where I have been executing grass. I need it watered in!

Cleaned up the power tools I had out in the wet zones on my way in. Priorities: seeds and power tools, everything else has to figure itself out.
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If you see this meme, and get really excited about gravel...and then realize most people probably don't want a lifetime supply of gravel....

I live on a gravel road, and it's ALWAYS getting potholes. I'd love a lifetime supply of gravel to patch our road!

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That’s a good one!

I suppose the originator thought free gravel for life would be on a par with the usefulness of the other choices!

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You spread Permie memes around.

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I have a rowdy batch of flowers in the yard that I'm fairly sure are Philadelphia Fleabane

Erigeron philadelphicus

All day long I have been singing Elton John's famous permaculture song about them!
What? You didn't know Elton John had a famous song about these flowers? It was a big hit, I bet you have heard it!

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Nicole Alderman wrote:If you see this meme, and get really excited about gravel...and then realize most people probably don't want a lifetime supply of gravel....

A lifetime supply of gravel would be an endless supply of thermal mass and cash. A homesteader's dream prize. I would vote for that.

The ability to look inside any container (think a truck trailer or shipping container or seagoing vessel) would be the basis for a very lucrative security consulting business. Provided I could work remotely of course.

And yet I wonder if oysters speak Khitan? I get all Star Trekkie considering the possibilities. That could be seriously cool.

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