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Help identifying two wildflowers

 
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The pink fuzzy wilflower was in the Weeki Wachee Preserve and the purple fuzzy wildflower came along with a fig tree from the Nature Coast Botanical Gardens, so both are from West Florida.
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From the nursery
 
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The first one is a thistle, no clue on the second
 
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I don't recall seeing anything quite like the second one and I've had a few gardens in Florida. Ageratum, maybe.
 
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The second one looks just a bit like White Butterbur.  I don't think that's what it is, if it's growing out of those little paired leaves, but that's slightly closer than never!
 
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