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Chloe Kincheloe wrote:And as of June 10, 2017 are there any boots to roots spots available?
Since i am brand new to this forum I  do have a question. I was wondering if you would consider allowing someone to come say for three months of year for six years to complete the bootcamp?
I am living in Florida year-round but would love to escape the summer heat!

Welcome to the forums Chloe! We were so busy with our PDC and ATC workshops in June that we missed your post! Sorry about that. I added your question here to the bootcamp thread because it's a good one.

Yes, there are boots spots available and someone could come here for three months of the year and work off the bootcamp over several years instead of all in one span of time. That sounds really smart in several ways!

 
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What a great opportunity to quit my day job! Boy I want this! Doing my due diligence, though. Are the pictures in the thread here from boot camp? Looks like fun people to work with?

Looks like the PDC is over. Would new boot campers get to attend next years PDC? Will there be one? Word on the interwebs is that it probably won't happen and if it does the instructors won't be the same. The courses are a big reason to go so it would be helpful to have some guarantees before forking over my Benjamins.  The ant village workers have posted lots, but I can't seem to find any boot experiences. Are they in another thread? Definitely, want some of their input before handing in the resignation. 
 
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All of the pictures are from here.  Animals come and go.  People come and go. 

There will be a PDC and ATC next year.  Same instructors - I think it is cool that "the interwebs" find us so interesting as to speculate that we might have more or different instructors.  And we have our rocket mass heater workshop jamboree this year.

If you look earlier in this thread you will see the boots working on the couch balcony and willowonka.
 
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Dave Armstrong wrote:What a great opportunity to quit my day job! Boy I want this! Doing my due diligence, though.. 


For a person considering quitting their job and travelling to Montana to be a boot, the most important due diligence would be to listen to at least a couple hundred of Paul's podcasts.  Make sure you include all the recent ones about wheaton labs.  It's called wheaton laboratories for a reason, the land is Paul's and he's got some particular preferences as to how things go.  Stuff like - no plywood, no paint, no pesticides of any kind.  If you find that your values align with Paul's, and you are willing to work on projects at the lab, you should have a lovely time.  If you think that only some of what Paul says makes sense, and other stuff sounds stupid, don't quit your day job!

I've been there a couple of times and I find it lovely.  I'm too old and have too many responsibilities to drop everything and go there, but I applaud those who do.  I think some important work is being done there.  I'd love to hear more about how nice it is to have an earth sheltered home when the temperature is in the 90's.  I really think that the future is in earth sheltered homes, especially as we keep breaking heat records.
 
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Just added this to the first post about attending long enough to get deep roots:

This is the path we most want to emphasize.   At the same time, we wish to fill the bootcamp program quickly and get to work.   To that end, we offer the following:

To the first person that hits the 12 month mark in the bootcamp, they get a deep roots package after just 12 months.
To the first person that hits the 14 month mark in the bootcamp, they get a deep roots package after just 14 months.
To the first person that hits the 16 month mark in the bootcamp, they get a deep roots package after just 16 months.
To the first person that hits the 18 month mark in the bootcamp, they get a deep roots package after just 18 months.
To the first person that hits the 20 month mark in the bootcamp, they get a deep roots package after just 20 months.
To the first person that hits the 22 month mark in the bootcamp, they get a deep roots package after just 22 months.

For everybody else, it is 24 months.  



Back in january, we had six people lined up for the bootcamp program and they were all in it for the deep roots.   Five of them never showed up and one of them left after about three days.

Since then we had some people do work trade for the PDC/ATC stuff.   And now there are three people coming.   So if three more people were to show up, then we would have six people working toward that one year mark. 

 
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This bootcamp sounds like an exciting opportunity. I am willing to do some dirty to get hands on permaculture experience. I would be looking to stay at least long enough to learn things in the PDC. After wrapping things up at home I could be there by September this year. If there is an opening please let me know here, or my email is karaevelyn0523@gmail.com
 
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There are currently three openings. 

Send over your hundred bucks and we will get things rolling.
 
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This looks very interesting and the optimist in me hopes that you continue boot camps for several more years. I suppose I've hit my "midlife crisis" at age 44, as I'm making plans for retiring at 50 (when I can start getting my pension from work), selling my SoCal house, and moving to the PNW region where I hope to buy a couple dozen acres and build my own place with the equity from my current place. Desk job behind a PC in an area with 1 season a year is feeling like a waste of my life.

Since it's several years out it's all just words right now... I'm going to a RMH workshop and cob work week at Cob Cottage this fall for the first time (to literally get my feet wet), and will start looking for land. I can see coming out to the labs for a year or two just to learn could be really handy, as most of the affordable land I've seen so far is after the owner has cleared the timber and the fir is all 5-10' tall... so buying something and planting more diverse species with a plan towards coppicing some for fuel and others for food production, and giving it some time to grow, would leave me with plenty of time to live somewhere else and hopefully learn  the right way to do things rather than learn through mistakes on my own.

I'm a fan of mike oehler's design and the Wofati and seeing the design evolve online in real time is fun, but getting out to be hands-on would be even better. Until I retire the best I can do is flying out there for 2 week chunks as I accrue the time, which I doubt is long enough to get past the orientation phase and would end up just wasting the time of those there trying to get me up to speed, just in time for me to leave again. But perhaps I can time some visits around classes and offer some manual labor while there and learn through osmosis.

Fingers crossed, down the road I could come out for longer stints to help others with projects while getting my own property up to speed.
 
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I think it is possible to come out for a week or two here and there and start racking up the months.
 
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Excellent! I'm working my way through the podcasts, there's a bunch of them! So are there particular times of year that would be better for extra bodies to show up? I would guess frozen logs and ground during winter would be wise to avoid, so perhaps some time after that? I can start some initial planning for being gone for a week or two based on what times of year work best, and will keep an eye out for any classes coming up as well.
 
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John Namazi wrote:Excellent! I'm working my way through the podcasts, there's a bunch of them! So are there particular times of year that would be better for extra bodies to show up? I would guess frozen logs and ground during winter would be wise to avoid, so perhaps some time after that? I can start some initial planning for being gone for a week or two based on what times of year work best, and will keep an eye out for any classes coming up as well.


We work all year.

During the winter is the best time to do forestry work and run the sawmill.  It is also a great time to maintain equipment and build stuff in the shop.  And I am working on an especially amazing class to happen in the winter. 

Winter is the perfect time to build junkpole fence at basecamp.  It is not possible, as basecamp, to put posts in the ground, so we have to make rock jacks. 

Winter is a good time to make skiddable structures next to the shop.  When the structures are done, we can move them where we need them.

Winter is the best time to really understand the value of all the rocket mass heaters we have.  And to build experience with each of them.   And because we have so many rocket mass heaters, this place might be one of the best cold climate places to be in the winter.  

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The best time to arrive is:  now.



 
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