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Jocelyn Campbell wrote:Stacy, your storage tanks sound fantastic! Though likely not exactly what one would set up prior to a hurricane or other short-term crisis. Perhaps really smart to work in to the home resilience planning though.
The 5-gallon buckets certainly are handy, Eric! We put them under down spouts ourselves, then ran that water through a Berkey filter for drinking and cooking, when our well was being repaired.
The 55-gallon food grade drums sounds like an even more robust backup, Trace.
Neat!
For drinking water in glass storage, I was thinking of those gallon (or more) glass jugs from wine or apple juice, or other glass jugs (like a carboy) for those avoiding plastic.
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Trace Oswald wrote:
I love glass jugs, but they are getting harder and more expensive to find. I used to buy apple juice in them, but those days are gone now.
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Jocelyn Campbell wrote:
Trace Oswald wrote:
I love glass jugs, but they are getting harder and more expensive to find. I used to buy apple juice in them, but those days are gone now.
We found apple juice in 1 gallon glass jugs recently.
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Stacy Witscher wrote:Got to be honest, William Bronson, I don't think that there is a disaster free sort of place, at least not anymore, if there ever was one.
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This points out what is really important (as do a few more comments later in her post). It's really good for people to look at the geological, environmental history of a location when planning what they need to store and where to store it. For example, despite being on an island and in an earthquake zone, my particular property is not at high risk from a tsunami. If I was in that sort of a risk area, I would be begging my friend who lives a kilometer higher up than me, for a corner of her basement for emergency food and water storage. If your water storage is for an emergency, please think of how to make sure it will still be there and be safe when you actually need it. If that means building an elevated cache to cope with flooding, a reinforced bunker for tornado, or simply a solid, animal-proof shed in case your crappy 1970's house collapses in an earthquake, think of possible scenarios and do your best to act with those in mind. If your main risk is simply a power outage leaving your pump non-functional, where you store that extra water is far less of a concern.where I am we could experience earthquakes, lava flows, hurricanes, and tornados.
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This is a good and valid reason for making sure you own a "food grade" hose, but in an emergency, putting fresh water through your hose for a minute or so, and then filling your containers as quickly as possible will reduce the risk. Drinking potentially bacterially/virally contaminated water kills or sickens many people in emergency situations, so the long term threat from the hose is the lessor evil in my mind. To me it's more important to be storing the water in a food grade container, out of the sun, than risking a little during the filling.Regular garden hoses can leech chemicals especially as they age and if they have laid out in the sun.
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I've read about this technique and I realize that in poor countries it's a big improvement over drinking contaminated water, but would clear glass bottles do the same thing? Something narrow like wine bottles perhaps? I'm not keen on drinking out of heated, solar exposed plastic if there's an alternative that would do the job. They would have to be set up on a bit of a slope so the lid can be just loose enough to cope with pressure changes, I'd expect, since glass isn't flexible like the plastic is.SODIS is an excellent technique to know.
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Eric Hanson wrote:Jocelyn,
I can think of another cheap, easy way to store water (though again, not plastic free). 5 gallon buckets. ...
I would say that if you still have the taps running and can get buckets, you could store quite a bit of water cheaply and easily. Potentially you could get lids, but I would think that you could cover the buckets with garbage bags just to keep dust out.
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This is a concern. If you think in terms of home processing food, failure to follow traditional methods such as putting hot food in sterilized bottles and then boiling water bathing them for the required time, can make you sick.Along those lines, I think we have people buying bottled water because it's "safe" and they are not certain that storing tap water would be as safe. What could we say to folks about that, in a simple way?
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If contamination was a serious concern, is there any reason those jars of water couldn't go through a boiling water bath, so they'd actually be sealed? If you started with hot water and sterile jars, I'd imagine 35 min would do the job. Unfortunately, I suspect that the 1.5 liter and 2 liter jars are too expensive and hard to find to be worth going that route.A box of 12 quart jars equals 3 gallons of water, and doesn't take up any extra space.
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