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paul wheaton
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These links will take you to the "buy" page for each item. And each of these links not only gets you pdf plans, but it also puts a coupla bucks in my pocket.


double chamber cob oven
scubbly.com/item/75815/?affid=8092
New Link: https://permies.com/t/52989/double-chamber-cob-oven-plans

rocket mass heater: 6" system
scubbly.com/item/75761/?affid=8092
New Link: https://permies.com/t/64029/Rocket-Mass-Heater-Plans-Annex#546241

rocket mass heater: 8" system
scubbly.com/item/75812/?affid=8092
New Links:
Bonny 8" https://permies.com/t/40967/Bonny-Convection-Bench-inch-Rocket
Cabin 8" https://permies.com/t/40984/Rocket-Mass-Heater-Plans-Cabin
Greenhouse 8" https://permies.com/t/64464/Greenhouse-Rocket-Mass-Heater-Plans#549653


 
paul wheaton
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If anybody buys through these links, please let me know so I can make sure this is all set up correctly.
 
Erica Wisner
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We had one purchase already, the RMH PDF, and it looks like they sent Paul a dollar.

Ernie wanted me to put up a little more detail, since somebody wrote him wondering what they would get for their 'investment'.

So I drafted this handy form letter, for use by sausage-fingered smart people.

Hi,
Thanks for your interest in our plans.

Here's some links for more information about the projects that we sell plans for:
- General information about projects and plans we sell, with links to more details: http://www.ErnieAndErica.info (our sales page is www.ErnieAndErica.info/shop)
- Free photo essays on our rocket mass heaters, cob ovens, and other projects (on Picasa): http://picasaweb.google.com/eawisner
- More info about the rocket mass heaters book: www.rocketstoves.com

Hope that helps you understand what we are offering!
The cob oven plan includes a photo page, 3 pages of diagrams, and 12 pages of step-by-step detail on how to design, build, and operate an earthen oven with chimney. Companion reading might include Kiko Denzers' Earthen Ovens book, but our plans can also stand alone (provided you take the time to test your cob before building).

Our rocket stove / rocket mass heater plans are designed to make it easy to lay out a proven design, and/or start a conversation with land-mates or local building experts about the heater you want to build. They include an 11x17 as-built drawing with detailed floor plan, section views, and elevations; a separate page with photos, construction details, and materials cutaway views; and a full page (11x17) of builders' notes including common errors and relevant ASTM standards. The level of detail does not go into cob testing and so on; it assumes some experience, and recommends reading the rocket mass heaters book for the basic explanations.

...We have two rocket mass heater plans ready for purchase now, a 6" system on slab floor, and an 8" system over reinforced wood floor, with air channels that are rather spiffy. The next plans in the queue will be a greenhouse heater, and then our big-heat, small-footprint 8" system that we're currently enjoying in our mountain cabin.

How did you find out about our plans?
If you do decide to purchase a set, consider using the original link you saw (on email, Facebook, or whatever). It helps us track our online grapevine.

Thank you,
Erica and Ernie Wisner

p.s. That means use the link code in Paul's post, and help us buy him a cuppa jo for making us famous.

Thanks also, to everybody who has been encouraging us to get these plans online and helping us work out a viable store setup.
Please forgive any rough edges as we are still improving the details.
-EKW
 
Ernie Wisner
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Ok we had to pull the RMH book we will have it back up soon.
 
Marie Shurts
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Hello, just dropping you a line to let you know I purchased my first set of prints for a rocket mass heater... Looking forward to actually doing this.
 
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Marie
Thanks for purchasing the plans we hope to hear from you soon.
 
Phil Hawkins
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I also bought a set of plans. I must say that the "after sales support" has been second to none!

Now I just need to find some time ... unfortunately that is not available from WisnerWeb.

I didn't know about the affiliate links, so instead I have given Paul a donation via PayPal.
 
Erica Wisner
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We just don't seem to produce any time in excess of what we can use, here. More the reverse. You might see if you can find some under-valued from a bored teenager eager to grow up...

Look forward to any comments people care to share about using the plans.
I am thinking of starting a thread for each set, so people can share their experiences.
Paul, would this be OK as a wood burning stoves thread, or somewhere down in the Shameless Commerce category?

Yours,
Erica
 
paul wheaton
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Are you kidding? I'm making money offa this. Keep it here where everybody can see it and channel money into my pockets!

 
paul wheaton
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Phil Hawkins
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paul wheaton wrote:I've spent way too much time today working on a page for all this:

http://www.permies.com/wood-burning-stoves.html

Feedback?


Looks like a good leaping off place for the world of "wood burning devices that aren't designed to work as opposed to meet some artificial government test"

In fact, that might be a good paragraph to add at the top - that "efficient" isn't always what it's cracked up to be. There was a good bit on this in your epic two hour plus podcast with Ernie and Erica, that you could reuse some words from.
 
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Phil Hawkins
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paul wheaton wrote:
wood burning devices that aren't designed to work

aren't?


ARE!

(why do I feel like one half of a pair of name calling 5 year olds )

Speaking of that page, I watched the video of the cob oven and was noticed that whilst Ernie had a pipe, it was also smoke free! I assume it's some sort of rocket pipe? You place the tobacco on your tongue, light it, and the draft created by the insulated bowl means it burns sideways through the flame tunnel, leaving no smoke (or blisters in your mouth). Brilliant! Is there nothing these guys can't rocket?!?
 
Erica Wisner
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LOL



It's way better than the other, poster-size picture our friend made of Ernie and his pipe, in which a wisp of smoke is lazily curling up just into his left nostril.

Thanks Paul, that site is nifty. Makes me want our site to be better. But maybe it's good that we give more detailed information.

-Erica
 
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Just a quick question, the 8" plans description indicates it heats a 3 floor house. Is the heat just moved passively, are direct vents from the room of heat to other rooms cut in walls/ceilings etc...? Also, with a years heating, at least by the podcast, what is the lowest temperature seen and how large was the temp difference between the room of heat and the furthest room away/coldest room?
 
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farthest room away is a tower and it holds the temps at 68 degrees. depends on how the house is configured as to how effective the heating is (just like every other heating system). the house described is passively heated with no vents or fans. this is why folks hire us to help plan installs. it might cost a bit but we are pretty good at giving folks what they need to handle house heating.
 
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