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Joel Salatin: Preaching to the Choir

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Joel Salatin: Preaching to the Choir
Video - 70 Minutes

Direct Video Link: http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/6471/Joel-Salatin--Preaching-to-the-Choir
Pointing Link: http://hines.blogspot.com/2012/02/joel-salatin-preaching-to-choir.html

Joel Salatin: Preaching to the Choir : Director: Russian River TV | Producer: Russian River TV Genre: Documentary | Produced In: 2010 | Story Teller's Country: United States
Tags: United States, Americas, Environment, Farming

Synopsis: In "The Omnivore's Dilemma", Michael Pollan introduced us to Joel Salatin, a farmer who's been practicing a complex form of rotational grazing in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley. In the past few years Joel has become a folk hero in certain circles of farmers seeking to challenge the conventional agribusiness model. We read as much as we could about Joel's Polyface Farm, and got to wondering how his methods would translate to Sonoma County's different climate. We have to admit, we sort of stalked Joel's schedule for a while, spying a little item that read “private farm consultation, Sonoma, March 17”. After some detective work, we discovered that Joel would be coming to Tara Firma Farms in Petaluma, and got invited to a reception and talk at the Institute of Noetic Sciences in Marin. Please join us for this enlightening lecture.

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Monte Hines
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Thanks for posting, I enjoyed that. First time I've heard about the problem with Pasteur's germ theory--very informative!
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I'm not sure that Joel conveyed that message quite right. The problem is not with Pasteur's theory. The theory is sound. So is the second (terrain) theory. They work together as a total package. Just like Permaculture.

To simplify Pasteur: Germs exist and some of them are capable of causing illness in a host organism under appropriate conditions.

What the second theory says is: The environment (terrain) can determine the chances of a pathogen infecting a host by altering conditions in such a way that infection becomes minimized or maximized.

The two theories complement each other and do so quite nicely.

Think of it in permaculture terms: Too much of one weed means that the environment is favoring that weed species. Killing the weeds and doing nothing more will not solve the problem. The weeds will return. However, modifying the environment by altering the water, sun, nutrients, biodiversity could do a lot to solve the weed problem. For the best result perhaps you could kill the weeds AND modify the environment to achieve the desired outcome. Using both solutions in tandem often gives the most benefit.

On Vaccines: A great number of deadly diseases have been nearly eradicated thanks to vaccines. They aren't perfect but remember that nothing positive is achieved without some degree of risk. Some certain people do have adverse reactions to vaccines but that also applies to every medicine and food on the planet. There are exceptions to all rules. Almost every vaccine used today is without mercury and you can request mercury/thimerisol free vaccines. Not to mention that there was never a positive link between vaccines and autism. The one study that showed a causal link was later found to be fraudulent. The author admitted to data manipulation. And we probably get more mercury from the air we breath and the food we eat every day of our lives than that contained in a small life saving vaccine that we only get once. (sorry for the rant. I'm passionate about this)

A great number of lives have also been saved and prolonged by the understanding that cleanliness and proper sanitation prevent illness. Joel is exactly right when he says that we need to encourage the right (good) bacteria in our properties and our bodies. Processed foods don't accomplish that goal for our bodies just like chemicals and GMO's don't accomplish that for our land.

I guess my point is that the two theories are not at odds and we can make the best of both of them and have wonderful results.

Aside from that, I thought the talk was well done and informative. Very insightful

Thanks for posting the video.

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I'm all jazzed up from posting about Salatin on my blog, so I finally stepped out of the lurkers corner to post about this.

Salatin is a good man with a good message. He gets a little too certain that food needs to be grown on a farm, but what else should we expect from a farmer? Paul's HUSP thread ( https://permies.com/t/9121/permaculture/Horticulture-United-States-Pocahontas-husp ) is philosophically closer to what the man should be preaching. In short, farmers would serve humanity better by trying to end our dependence upon farms for our food. He opens many doors and he's a great speaker on the subject, but we can do better.
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