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How good is Geoff's online PDC?

 
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I really wanted to do it last year but the timing wasn't good. This year 2020 it seems like it might be the year.  It looks to be the best online delivery out there but for close to $2000 Canadian it seems to be something to weigh out before I consider it?  I know last year it was updated I believe.  Is it worth the price tag? Is there other online PDCs that are in the same ballpark?

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My experience is very dated; I took it in summer 2014.

I was deeply underwhelmed.. I expected much more immersive content, and the meat of the product was video of geoff in front of a whiteboard, teaching an in-person PDC. Nothing like the snazzy promo content...

I am sure it has been upgraded since... as I recall, the number of participants times the cost was a couple million dollars for that session alone. One would sure hope for some of that to be channeled back in to the product...


In person is the way to go IMO, though this is obviously challenging right now...
 
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Do you think he offered anymore content than other courses?
 
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Aaron, where did you see the price of the course, and do know if it has been released yet?
 
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The stuff he offers for free is excellent, and I wanted to take the online PDC, but it's too expensive for me. Hasn't been released yet, but I asked what the price would be.
 
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Aaron McKinley wrote:Do you think he offered anymore content than other courses?



I haven't looked at other online options. I have no intention of taking another online PDC or similar course.

Compared to an in person PDC, this will vary enormously. I haven't done a full PDC in person, but a couple of weekend workshops with great instructors were night and day compared to the online experience..
 
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That's pretty steep. Personally I'd rather spend $2k on improving my land and get my knowledge from free online sources and cheap used books and consider some working internships for hands-on experience. Alternatively, I'd drop a bit more cash and pay someone for a professional permaculture consultation on my property. I have a hard time imagining I'd learn a magical life-changing method or piece of information that isn't already available to me elsewhere that would correspond to $2k in value. Of course that's me. We all value money and information differently.
 
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It's going to be released soon for 2020 and prices are similar to last they said.  I agree with all the info is out there and I could spend my money elsewhere but I think grouping all that info together in an organized way would be very interesting.

The main reason I want a PDC course under my belt is that I can teach this stuff that I am living and breathing.  As a high school teacher I want to start moving to teaching people about this stuff.  With all this Corona crap going on a lot of people are waking up to more basic needs like growing food.  My wife and I have a little plant sale every year with garden veggie starts-heirloom tomatoes, herbs, medicinal perennial herbs, etc and it's amazing how many first time gardeners are out there this year asking a billion questions.  My wife and I see the potential of doing tours on the property.  "What to do with and 1.5 farm" We have been on the property for seven years and another year or two and it will be showcase ready for tours, workshops etc.  I want to have the PDC so I can tie it all together professionally.
 
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I'm taking the Verge Permaculture online PDC (it's under $1000 CAD). It's a brand new course - a response to the current climate. There are lots of elements of the course I am really enjoying, but I will likely want to take some in-person courses in the future. There has been an opportunity to ask questions - but with a large online delivery, there isn't an opportunity for back and forth discussion (which is how I learn best).  I am also missing lots of the hands-on application elements. If your intention is to really get the theory down, it's a great option. I will need to add on some hands-on in the field learning to round out the experience ( which I always suspected would be the case).  
 
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Yeah those two guys seem to have it going on. Is the course quality?  All the theory is there? Good delivery?
 
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I am over here in Ontario and Verge seems to stepping up on the Canadian scene.  Will look into them and the next online PDC
 
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Aaron McKinley wrote:Yeah those two guys seem to have it going on. Is the course quality?  All the theory is there? Good delivery?



It's my first PDC, but yes, I believe all of the theory is there.  They've brought in a variety of teachers to address different topics - we've heard from different practitioners on Permaculture gardening, rainwater harvesting/water management, soil - we're about halfway through now. The back-end course management system is really easy to navigate, and there are lots and lots of extra materials to draw from if you want to dig further into a topic.
 
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So worth the investment so far?  Good to hear.  They are the more reasonable and economical choice next to Lawton's one, for me at least.
 
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Aaron McKinley wrote:So worth the investment so far?  Good to hear.  They are the more reasonable and economical choice next to Lawton's one, for me at least.


Yes, absolutely. I would not want to pay $2k for an online course - but at $700, the value is really there. Plus if you are Canadian - the time zones might work out a bit better.
 
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Hi,  I have been looking at Morag Gambles Permaculture Education Institute course.  She offers a PDC and Permaculture Educators Certificate.  The price is around $1700 US, I think.  I would like to find anyone who has done this or could compare witht he G Lawton course.
 
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