Posting rules

Hello,

My post was blocked but I'm not sure why. The bot included a link to the posting rules but it took me to what seemed like a random list of comments rather than a list of rules.

Which bit of my post was the problem so that I know what to edit?

I think it was because you were asking about toxic gick, which is a subject that is confined to the cider press.  

I can't post in Cider Press :(

What is toxic gick?

Hi G.

Permies really doesn't have a list of rules, we only have 1 rule which everyone agrees to when creating an account: be nice. Permies does have publishing standards and guidelines.

I looked at your post in question, and it appears that you want to talk about pressure treated lumber. Pressure treated lumber uses toxic chemicals to retard decay, and here at Permies we try to find and encourage ecological ways to build and consider alternatives to a lot of commercially available building materials. It's not to say we don't allow discussion about chemicals, we do and those discussions are restricted to a forum called Toxic Gick found in the Cider Press. A minimum number of apples is needed to be able to post in the cider press forums, and we have this in place to help keep internet trolls from creating an account just to cause problems and spread misinformation, half-truths and downright lies, detracting from helpful and productive discussions. They still show up, and we promptly remove their material - no big deal.

I see you have already earned two apples in 18 posts and are well on your way to earning enough to be able to post in the cider press. If you go to the cider press forum toxic tick found here: https://permies.com/f/147/Toxic-Gick you'll see a little white bar across the top of the forum where it says that 8 apples are needed to post there.

Here are a few more links to helpful threads about permies:

https://permies.com/t/31128/category-Cider-Press - all about the cider press
https://permies.com/t/17422/permies-publishing-standards - Permies.com publishing standards
https://permies.com/wiki/34193/permies-works-links-threads#267492 - The super list of all the threads related to Permies and how things work here.

I hope this helps. If you have any more questions, please feel free to reply here and myself or one of Permies staff will be happy to try and help.

Fair enough. Although I wanted to discuss pressure-treated timber as it seems widely sold but the dangers/problems with it in terms of health concerns and environmental damage are not widely known. I definitely wasn't trying to promote it :)

Hi G, I'm not staff but I think it's the discussion that can become a problem, which is unfortunate.  My understanding is that, in the past, people not on Permies have found the discussion, made an account, then proceeded to stir up shit.  The site is run with volunteer moderators and they spend quite a lot of time on it even without that kind of problem.  It's allowed in the Cider Press for people who have shown that they meet a pretty minimal standard that shows they can play nice.

This site is quite a bit different than most sites, much for the better, in my opinion.  It does take a bit of getting used to because it's much more like how you would act in person.  I think that, had this been the first BB on the internet, people would have taken to it much more intuitively because of that and maybe the net wouldn't be where everyone tries to beat down anyone different.

PT is something I struggle with as well as many people around here build on grade but I really don't want the chemicals leeching onto the land where I grow my food.  I'm not even sure if you can make a post asking about the issues with PT lumber if it's not in the Press.

G Prentice wrote:Hello,

My post was blocked but I'm not sure why. The bot included a link to the posting rules but it took me to what seemed like a random list of comments rather than a list of rules.

Which bit of my post was the problem so that I know what to edit?

I did want to add that I had the same experience the first couple of times I was notified, so you're not alone (though it may not be comforting to be likened to me).  I didn't find it easy to identify what the issue was and I think I PMed a mod to help me.  It doesn't take long to figure out, though, and it's very welcoming because of the 'be nice' rule.  

Permies only has one rule which everyone agrees to when we make an account - to be nice.

But there are a lot of guidelines that have developed over the years.  You can learn more about it here: https://permies.com/wiki/34193/permies-works-links-threads

Permies.com/forums was created by Paul Wheaton as a place where people can talk about ways of doing things that are organic or better.  Paul's big into Permaculture.  It's a very narrow range of things to talk about here - or so it looks from the outside.  What amazes me is that there is so much to talk about that matches this "organic or better" criteria that we never seem to run out of things to say.  

The other goal is to focus on solutions.  When someone comes to permies, we find it because we're fed up with the problems of the world.  We all know that XYZ chemical causes cancer, and blablabla is wrong with the world.  Boring!  We don't need to have that conversation over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.  Let's just get on with finding solutions and making the world a better place.