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Painted Mountain Corn

 
Daniel Zimmermann
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I saw this, and as I did not already find a reference to it, thought it too valuable not to share.

Thirty one years ago I started growing rare lines of cold hardy northern corn for my family's grain in Montana. Modern corn wouldn't mature in the mountains where I lived, so I had to work with heirloom Native corns. I learned that about 12 lines of Mandan Indian corn had been saved in the national seed bank, but those lines appear somewhat inbred. I began a search for corn still kept alive by Indian families and descendants of homesteaders. After years of evaluation and crossing I eventually created a large and diverse gene pool. I exposed this corn to the severe stress of my Montana home, selecting only the hardiest to breed from. I called this Painted Mountain Corn.

http://www.seedweneed.com/index-1.html
 
Gray Simpson
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Fascinating! There is also a stunning picture of Glass Gem corn that is going around on Facebook.
 
Brenda Groth
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I'm happy for you, I'm trying an OP sweet corn variety called Festivity this year from bountiful gardens
 
M Marx
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amazing!
 
Glenn Underhill
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Did anybody try this corn in 2012? I live in the Montana mountains and want to try it out. Has anybody here grown it and cooked with it?

Johnnyseeds has it in stock and I will be ordering some for next spring, unless there is a local or better place to get it from.
 
Jordan Lowery
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We grew a couple hundred lbs of this corn this year. We really like it. The genetic diversity is very high, the possibilities in line selection are endless( even for creating new types of corn)

I make nixtamal with it for tortillas, tamales and other masa made products. They are excellent, actually there better.

It makes good cornbread too.

Next year my goal is 500+ lbs of dry corn in the polyculture

The amount of different colored and patterned kernals is mind-blowing, every shade of every color.
 
John Polk
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A more local place to get it (Oregon) is Territorial Seeds:
Organic Painted Mountain Corn
 
Glenn Underhill
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Thanks for the feedback and the help guys. Jordan, how much seed did you plant to get your couple hundred pounds and what else do you grow in the polyculture? Did you have any insect pests? And what is your technique for nixtamalizing the grain?

Are you planting next year with saved seed? Please update us next fall!

John I will be checking Territorial for the seed and other things, thanks.
 
John Polk
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Yeah. I have been using Territorial seeds since I moved to Seattle ('97) and have never been disappointed.
At least for 'West of the Cascades', they are the go-to company for seeds.
They trial just about everything on their own farm there.

I'm planning to move east of the Cascades (so I'll have to re-learn gardening).
I wasn't sure if corn would make it in a short summer zone 5, but it appears that the Painted Mountain should thrive there.

 
Jordan Lowery
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I didn't weigh what I planted but I'd say around half-3/4 of a lb. Not that much really, this corn yields well. I can pay attention more next year to seed planted vs yield, yes I will be saving seed from now on. The polyculture had over 20 species easily, next year it will be closer to one hundred. Too many to list. No problem with bugs.

I nixttamalize with lime not lye.
 
Shelly Randall
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I grew a packet this summer on the ground that was the overturned clay that they had dug out for the new septic tank. Very poor stuff, but the painted corn held strong even through the hot summer of the Central Valley, California. I grew it side by side with sweet corn, and it sprouted much faster than the sweet corn. The ears were small, but they were gorgeous, man, really pretty. I was surprised at how hard the kernels were. I was expecting something like sweet corn, crisp and sweet, but this corn is different. If I had of known how to process it, I would have eaten it; instead, I ground it up for the chickens who wolfed it down. I saved the seed for next spring, and I can't wait to see how it performs in better ground and to see how it tastes when I process it into masa or cornbread.
 
Glenn Underhill
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Hey Sheila - sounds good that it grows in pure clay. I first heard about this corn here http://www.survivalblog.com/2012/11/a-corn-chronicle-by-shepherdfarmergeek.html, it is a pretty good write up that a guy did with it for a season. Seems like the price is going up too, lucky you saved some seeds.

Nothing wrong with growing chicken feed. I'll probably do that too along with eating it myself.
 
Devon Olsen
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this sounds like some epic corn, i do like all these old maize species, i, however have grown up on GMO sweet corn(terrible i know) so i would love to find something so hardy that would be at least half as tastey eaten on the ear

dont get me wrong though, reading through this stuff gets me excited and makes me think buying seed may bea great idea
 
Glenn Underhill
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Rocky Mountain Corn has it for sale now, I just ordered a pound.
 
Andrew Ray
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Anyone know what happened to Dave Christensen and seedweneed.com? The website is down. I wanted to read more about it. Anyway, I've got some and am planting it tomorrow (after the overnight soaking suggested by the rocky mountain seeds).
 
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