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Hi All; Been burning my 6" & 7" batches hot, all day everyday. Both are located in large poorly insulated building's.
After 3 months the cobra head on my shop batch spalled enough, to just fall off! Leaving me with an open top 3.5" tall tube.
Needless to say performance suffered.
I removed the door and then the secondary tube. As I have a full working shop, it was little effort to cut off the remains and build and weld on a replacement. Problem fixed! But maybe not so easy for others without metal working tools and a ready source of metal.
I started looking at the stub on our studio batch. I could see that it was spalling badly and was going to fall apart soon as well.

This is an issue eventually with any batchbox. But in normal use, several years is expected. Replacement could be accomplished casually over the summer and not winter while it is snowing and well below freezing.

I decided to design and build a secondary air tube with a quickly replaceable stub... before my studio batch stub rotted off.
I succeeded by about 5 days. The studio stub did the same thing the shop stub did, there one minute and gone the next!. I was glad I had a complete replacement tube with a quick change stub already built. It was about an hours work to completely replace the secondary tube. I switched from the shorter cobra head to the taller Walker pipe. Performance appears identical (I have no Testo meter ). Now when this pipe spalls down to a shorter length, it will take seconds to drop in a 6" piece of schedule 40 2" pipe at a cost of a few dollars.

For those of you with metal fabrication ability's. schedule 40 2.5" @ 1.5" tall with a 6" schedule 40 2" stub slips right in.
For the cobra style 1.5" tubing slips into 1.75" tubing.

I am now making and selling both designs online.
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What was left
 
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These are fantastic, Thomas! Great idea! Should make changing pieces a total breeze.
 
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Thanks Luke!
I wish I had them when you bought yours.
They make it easy for anyone to upgrade their own stub!
 
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A bit of a bump!

I just received a quick change secondary air tube from thomas!

It came shipped to me via fedex and there was no custom's fees!

I am super impressed. Great job Thomas
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How it came packaged
How it came packaged
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How the secondary air tube was wrapped
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Both items. Great job thomas
Both items. Great job thomas
 
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Where and how are those fitted please?
 
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A secondary air tube is used in a batchbox style RMH.
It is located on the floor of the box and supplies fresh oxygen at the port entering the riser.
The environment is so hot that carbon steel quicky deteriorates and needs replacing.
I invented the quickchange to make that procedure fast and easy.
I also sell RA330 extreme high heat  pipe that can survive indefinitely at those temperatures.
Making quick changing unnecessary, but handy at ash cleanup time.    
 
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Is anyone trying ceramic secondary air feeds or stubs?  

I know I am ignorant of more than I am aware, but it seems like the trade-off would be heat-resistance vs fragility.  
 
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Hi Beau;
Good thought, so I took a quick look around.

A 40mm id (too small) x 40" long was $325 plus shipping
We need a 50mm id. minimum 52mm id would be better.
Temperature wise they could easily handle conditions in a batch box.
But if one stick of wood bounced off it when it is up to temp...  I'm thinking it would be done for!

The RA330 pipe is spendy for sure, but if it outlasts the stove then it was a good investment.
Bounce all the wood off of it you want to and it will be as good as new.
 
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