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Growing skin back on a chicken

 
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I'm looking for some advice on how to get skin to grow back on a chicken thigh.
The bird is 2 months old and was attacked by a spotted gennet at night.
found it the next day and maggots had already hatched. the entire skin on the thigh was mostly off or partially dangling.
I had to cut off some of the skin and remove maggots - prefer maggots over septic wounds.
Disinfected the wound and treated with silbecor - often used for 3rd degree burn wounds, and covered wound with bandages to keep the visible muscle moist and movable.
Bird has recovered and has full mobility, already putting weight on the leg, walking and climbing and jumping and flying.

Now I'm wondering what would be the best way to regrow the skin, and whether there is some kind of medicine that can assist.
I'm slowly opening up the dressing and allowing it to dry out and scab section by section.
My worry is that if I dry out the entire wound that the scabbing would crack and result in decreased mobility and muscle atrophy.
 
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This chick is back in action.
Yesterday I removed the breathable plaster as I noticed that a lot of tissue had started growing in the deep wound area.
Wound is now covered with an iodine salve to minimize potential infection and keep the muscle from drying out completely.
Chick has full mobility and use of the leg.
I’m still keeping it separate from the flock as they would likely peck at the scabbing.
She has become a little bit of a house chicken and identifies with me, often jumping up and nesting in the fold of my arm, but will hopefully return to full chicken mode
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iodine salve applied to the chicken thigh
iodine salve applied to the chicken thigh
 
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Sounds to me like you've got this covered. Best of luck!
 
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Thanks Kevin.

The inevitable happened today and there is a fairly large tear in the scabbed over area. Keeping an eye on it and treating with silbecor.
This will probably happen a few more times before some form of elasticity returns to newly forming skin.

Not the clearest photo. Will send picture updates as time passes
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how the wound looks now
how the wound looks now
 
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Skin on the chick is hardening and starting to scab over nicely!
No new tears in the hardening skin.
Chick returned to general population chicken today.
I observe that she speaks a lot more than the other chickens. Got used to waking up to the constant chirping.
She follows me around the garden and comes when I call. We did form some kind of bond... or she sees me as the mother of mealworms.
I thought I lost her or the gennet got her (again) this evening, then found her roosting with the rest of the chickens in the fig tree.
So plenty of progress with the climbing there!
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wound healing nicely
wound healing nicely
 
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Leigh, that is amazingly quick healing. Thank you for keeping us updated and including photos, which are so helpful for learning.
 
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Some new pics on skin healing.
Scabbing is getting quite hard. I’m paying specific attention to one area that seemed to have internal muscular damage.

Might decide to close it up to soften the scabbing and check out that area better, but it could also just be that it is less red than other areas because tissue grew over the mercurochrome that I had initially put on.

Was also thinking that I don’t have an initial picture of the wound, but if you could imagine a skinless drumstick for food purposes... it looked like that (plus maggots)

The bird was dubbed Xena - warrior princess, but I call her cheep-cheep, cause she talks a lot!
Maybe for the same reason chickens meow?
And she has a very identifiable sound.

She no longer runs to me when I call, but comes closer than other birds, so I’m guessing that means she has reintegrated well into chicken life. She has full mobility, though she limps a little, can find a way to get 2m (6feet) up a tree to roost!

Still monitoring on a daily basis and treating with septadine (an iodine based salve)
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Scabbed area looking smaller. Skin growing back
Scabbed area looking smaller. Skin growing back
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Back view of skin reattaching at the top
Back view of skin reattaching at the top
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Skin where there was scarring before
Skin where there was scarring before
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Inner front of not so happy area
Inner front of not so happy area
 
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Found a pic from the no skin phase, when she couldn’t stand up on the leg.
Outside time was lying under the roses.
She also had a dog guardian
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Under the roses
Under the roses
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Koos the chicken protector
Koos the chicken protector
 
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Thanks for sharing the pictures. I had a chicken mauled by a fox, bad neck wound, bound it up and it healed very quickly. The same chicken needed toe splints for a few days only. Still laying welll.
 
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We have skin!

Some of the scabbing gas started coming off.
Think I’m starting to see skin.
The bird has rewilded and returned to the flock.
She no longer comes running to me, but I can still distinguish her ‘cheep’ and will still let me pick her up.
Trying to keep the wound somewhat moisturized and checking to see that the scabs coming off is not exposing open wounds that could be prone to infection.
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New skin towards the foot
New skin towards the foot
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Wound presenting smaller
Wound presenting smaller
 
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Some actual news skin showing.
This is from yesterday. It is looking better still, will take some new pictures.
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New skin in the section between the scabs and the feathers!
New skin in the section between the scabs and the feathers!
 
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That's excellent results! I have come to this thread kinda late, but for future readers, here is another option using herbs on a dog that is documented by a veterinarian.
 
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