• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nicole Alderman
  • Anne Miller
  • Mike Haasl
  • Pearl Sutton
  • paul wheaton
stewards:
  • r ranson
  • Burra Maluca
  • Joseph Lofthouse
master gardeners:
  • jordan barton
  • Leigh Tate
  • Carla Burke
gardeners:
  • Greg Martin
  • Jay Angler
  • John F Dean

The three sisters within a lichen!

 
gardener
Posts: 2739
Location: Fraser River Headwaters, Zone3, Lat: 53N, Altitude 2750', Boreal/Temperate Rainforest-transition
455
hugelkultur forest garden fungi trees books food preservation bike solar woodworking
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Well, folks, it's taken me a while to jump back into permies as I have been super full of a bunch of other things, but when I read this exciting article I thought I really need to share it.   Even though this is a 2016 article I had never heard of it, and I really love lichens so this is pretty cool to me in a super lichen nerdy kind of way!   Interestingly for me, also, the findings were spurred on by the preliminary work of the somewhat local to me, world-renowned, master lichenologist Trevor Goward and were discovered by one of his proteges who is local to the Permies base in Montana.  

So the gist of the article is that rather than just having a fungal and algal symbiosis, as science had previously determined and which formed the definition of this large group of ancient species, it was recently discovered by Toby Spribille and John McCutcheon of the University of Montana that variation from the typical duo is due to the additional involvement forming a trinity by a type of yeast (hence the three sisters-which I shamelessly threw into the title for the sake of permies click bate! --Ha! ).  This explained Goward's work that showed two types of lichen that had different DNA genetic expressions (one poisonous and the other edible), despite having the same genetic DNA structure between the Fungi and Algal partners.  The first link will be the article done online with CBC, and the second to the study published in Science.  Peace, Wild thangs, and the continuous unfolding and expansion of understanding ~ Roberto.

CBC Article

Study published in SCIENCE


 
Roberto pokachinni
gardener
Posts: 2739
Location: Fraser River Headwaters, Zone3, Lat: 53N, Altitude 2750', Boreal/Temperate Rainforest-transition
455
hugelkultur forest garden fungi trees books food preservation bike solar woodworking
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Jocelyn actually posted about this 4 years ago in a lichen thread:  here's the link to her post: Jocelyn permie post Here's the article in the Atlantic that she linked to in her post:   https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/07/how-a-guy-from-a-montana-trailer-park-upturned-150-years-of-biology/491702/
 
Posts: 38
Location: Boise, Idaho
1
hugelkultur fungi urban
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Interesting, thanks. I looked up your address, you really are way into the woods.
Staff note (Roberto pokachinni) :

The closest big box store, and city like busy-ness, and major medical infrastructure is 2.5-hour drive. In some cases, too far, and in others, not far enough! I still hear highway noise as it's pretty close and the neighbors cut a bunch of trees to expand a field between it and my property. I traveled through your neck of the woods once and found the twists and turns of your highways and mountains create a lot of somewhat remote areas throughout your beautiful state. Thanks for responding.

gift
 
10 Podcast Review of the book Just Enough by Azby Brown
will be released to subscribers in: soon!
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic