by Tim Bermaw got me thinking that maybe having a whole lot of different colours for what at the root is really permaculture, is a way of keeping it out of the eyes of big business. Big Ag is certainly doing its best to hijack the "organic" movement ("organic" root vegetable chips have to be a healthy choice?) because they've realized it's cutting into their bottom line. Getting people to heal the land, change their planting approach to multi-cultures, finding ways to hold water on the land and build carbon in the soil, all while keeping Big Business out of it, sounds like a fine approach to me.if it does get more formalized, does start growing rapidly, does start making significant progress, and does start heading in a direction that is profitable (or threatens the profitability of the status quo), then it will become 'worth' hijacking, and then folks will start trying.
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George Bastion wrote: If anything, I think the opposite should occur, and this knowledge and the skills-training should be as broad-based and accessible as possible.
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George Bastion wrote:Can you point me to a free PDC? I know there are some great intro courses and Youtube videos, but an in-person, full-on PDC, I've never seen.
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"The rule of no realm is mine. But all worthy things that are in peril as the world now stands, these are my care. And for my part, I shall not wholly fail in my task if anything that passes through this night can still grow fairer or bear fruit and flower again in days to come. For I too am a steward. Did you not know?" Gandolf
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Marco Banks wrote:Kids would ask for a new garden trowel for Christmas instead of a video game system.
Su Ba wrote:Didn't Oregon State University offer a couple of free PDC courses online? I took parts of one and learned quite a bit, but I wasn't able to complete it due to other obligations in my life.
Marco Banks wrote:For the life of me, however, I can't imagine how Walmart or Amazon would make any money off it. But lets say that they were to figure out how to do so . . . we'd have millions of Americans ripping out their grass lawns and converting millions of acres into productive agricultural space.
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Josh Garbo wrote:I find it funny that anyone could be on Permies and still looking for a free PDC...
George Bastion wrote:A structured, hands-on, and in-person experience working through the concepts on a very micro-level, shared with others, and with the focused guidance of a more experienced practitioner whose purpose is to facilitate your growth, however, it is not.
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However loud I tell it, this is never a truth, only my experience...
Zach Simone wrote: Maybe a perfect balance of purple and brown could provide a unification of halves thus resulting in the whole system that permaculture deserves.
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
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John Suavecito wrote:Many here are pushing a very severe form of permaculture that involves arguing about studies. They say that if you enjoy birds, trees, flowers, and the changing of the seasons, you better not share those feelings with others. They need to be private and solitary. Only double blind placebo controlled studies can be spoken about. I don't think that very many gardeners plant things because they want to argue about studies. Many enjoy sharing anecdotes about what they have noticed in their garden this year, and asking others what they've seen. They don't want to be silenced because they can't prove it with studies. If someone wants to stop people from purple permaculture and talking about beauty and connection, you can do that, but I doubt that very many gardeners will want to hang out with you. I think most enjoy birds, flowers, trees, butterflies, and the integration of all the parts of the ecology. If we aren't allowed to speak of beauty, it feels like punishing people for enjoying aesthetics. This would be an outstanding way of isolating permaculture and making sure that no one will want to participate in it again soon.
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This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory
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