Has anyone heard if brassicas grow well near black walnut, as these tend to favor bacterial soils?
perhaps a hugel bed with black walnut would be ok for them, although again the idea of using anything but odd rotted pieces for a hugel bed is appalling, black walnut is a beautiful durable wood that should be on display, not buried prematurely
Anyone have any thoughts.
I buried some pine last year, jury is still out on how good it is, probably chipping them would speed their decomp, but burying is preferrable to burning-unless it's in a rocket stove.
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I guess it would be ok to plant them on a bed that has walnut branches in it.
Does anyone have any experience?
denise broglio wrote:I am so new to this but am an avid gardener. I am getting ready to add depth to all my raised beds so that I can add wood as an experiment to use less water each week. I need to know any feedback to using buckeye as my wood. I know that the fruit and flower is poisonous but want to know if the wood is toxic. Thank you for any replies.
Welcome Denise. It rots quite readily. This usually means that the wood is not naturally poisoned. Also, grass and other plants grow beneath them.
I have dug into the different beds to check out what the wood is doing and boy howdy was that informative. The cottonwood was by far the most spongiest-soggiest-delicousness. THis makes sense to the primitive fire specialist because they know that the highly porous nature of cottonwood (particularly the roots) makes it a good insulator for the coal generated by the contact of the spindle and fire board. Cottonwood trees can suck up gravel!!! Now it may bloody well be my imagination but i feel like the bed with the highest concentration of cottonwood kicks the most but on our project.
in the attached photo it is the mound on the left.
A tree that came down in our garden was covered in the stuff.
That tree is already in the ground, but is there anything stopping me using the ivy in the next bed?
It's such a lot of bio mass, seems a shame not to use it.
Btw, it just common ivy not poisonous and apologies if this question came up before. I did have a look.
I advertise for ivy eradication. $50,000 per acre. Nobody has taken me up on the offer yet, but I figure that's a safe bet for a serious infestation.
Its on maybe 8 trees here. Its not a very big place (sub 1 acre) so has been easy to get under control.
To follow-up Dave, if i let the ivy i have in a pile go brown and dry this summer, do you believe there is a chance the ivy could re-grow if i included it in a bed?
The yard gets really dry in the summer, but this big mound grows an abundant supply of brambles in the worst drought.
My husband and I recently built a privacy fence around part of our yard for our dogs, and we have some left over pine (pickets, 2x4's and 4x4's).
I read earlier in this thread that pine works well for HK beds, but this is treated pine. Is that safe to use? If not, is there anything in the garden I can use the treated pine for? (Like a compost bin?)
Since recovery is unlikely (the rust touches near the trunk), these guys are likely headed for less moldy pastures by spring.
Now, my question - would they be unwise to use in a hugelbed? I would probably sink them a foot deep and build at least 4 feet upwards with lots in between, but Im wondering if those spore ruffians would stick around and muss up the others? There are no other nearby pines so Im not worried about further contamination.
Hopefully this ancient (and awesome) thread is still alive!
I'm out here in rural eastern Carolina (just south of Raleigh, NC) and started my first hugel bed the other day.
I'm not really sure if I'm doing it correctly, but considering what I have I think it's going to be "okay."
The wood layers on my hugel bed are sections of gum trees separated by a thick matting of pine needles and a layer of dirt. It's dug about two feet into the ground and about three feet above ground.
I topped it off with a thick matting of pine needles, a heavy layer of soil, and then one more heavy matting of pine needles.
Do you folks think that I'm going to have trouble like this? I gather that the pine needles will raise the hill's acidity, but am I missing anything here?
There are a number of big, woody plants that I'll be taking down around my property and replacing with food-producing trees. I'm wondering about their suitability for use in hugel beds.
Two big rhododendrons--any reason why their wood wouldn't be suitable?
A blue spruce and a Doug fir--I've read mixed opinions about conifer wood in hugel beds; I might just have to try it in one bed and see if it produces a noticeable difference.
And the big one I'm worried about: an English ivy plant that has fully matured/turned into an upright shrubby tree thing. It absolutely must come out, since its location really isn't working for me. I'm concerned about its use in the hugel bed, based on what Dale said above.
Does anybody have experience with fully mature English ivy wood in hugels? Danger, Will Robinson? Or does all the re-sprouting occur from roots and branch tips? If I only use the wood--no leaves, tips of branches, roots, etc.--would I be okay? Or would it be best to stack the wood somewhere and let it age for a year before using it?
I've got tons of dead, dried Himalayan blackberry cane I can use, which should be safe. Not going to put any crowns or green canes into the hugels, though.
Tj Jefferson wrote:I would not go against Dale on this stuff. Pretty similar climate, similar species. Buyer beware.
I wasn't planning to! But he seems to be discussing the immature phase of English ivy, with the viney tendrils. I was just wondering if anybody has experience with the wood taken from its mature phase, which looks a lot like a laurel tree. It's got an upright trunk, branches, the whole shrubby nine yards!
I have been seriously neglecting the beds at my farm. I built more last summer, when more trees were brought down. Nothing was planted in the existing beds, since I got busy working at other things away from the property. The current plan is to let them sit and rot a bit. The snakes and lizards do fine without me.
Meanwhile, they do make excellent garbage cans for the vast amounts of organic waste produced in maintaining roads and ditches.
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