I need help so I don't get in trouble again. Hope this is the right way to go about it.

I have a question that may set some people off. It isn't meant that way, but I'm genuinely confused and would like an answer and don't know how else to get that but by coming here. Please hear me out, below, before becoming offended or flagging this post.

A few days ago, I got in trouble for something I posted, but I wasn't told what was wrong with my post. I tried replying to the email I was sent but I haven't gotten a reply. My post must have been deleted. I was told it went to the cider press and that I was expected to edit it...but not how I was supposed to edit it. I briefly looked there but gave up, as I didn't have time to mess with it then. I can't edit a post that I can't locate and I can't guarantee I won't reoffend if I don't know what I did wrong.

I'm not on the internet 24/7, so if somebody expects me to edit something immediately, that probably will not happen.

I have an idea that it might have been when I brought up Jesus, but at least one other person's post did that as well.

Now, don't get ticked off and flag this next part, all I'm attempting to do is explain how I am:

I am a Christian, saved by grace and that's a huge part of my life. It permeates every single part of my life and is part of my thought processes. I'm not trying to offend or tick people off or be disrespectful in any way. It's simply who I am, and absolutely how I look at things, and it comes out in conversations, and in this case, posts. If that IS what got my post deleted and got me in trouble, I need to know. If it is, I'll go the extra mile to double check my posts for that stuff before I post them.

So, since I'm still confused about this whole thing, I went back to the cider press to try to locate my post, if it's still there. The first topic caught my eye and got me sidetracked and I read through it. I wanted to reply, but it wouldn't allow me to do that cause I don't have any pie. Soooo how was I even supposed to edit my post in there if I don't have the correct credentials?

I'm feeling a bit hurt and a lot confused. I like this site and don't want to do anything wrong.

Can anybody help me (gently)?

Edited to add: if this isn't posted in the correct place, feel free to delete the whole thing.

You've posted in the right place.

Replying to the PMs won't be of any use, the bot isn't programmed to understand that.  

I'll have a look and see if there's anything obvious.

r ranson wrote:You've posted in the right place.

Replying to the PMs won't be of any use, the bot isn't programmed to understand that.  

I'll have a look and see if there's anything obvious.

Thank you so much! This has been bothering me since it happened. I felt that I'd found an online place with friends to share ideas with and that I'd really messed up badly. I didn't mean to.

You've had two posts put on probation.

It's important to know that posts that do not meet the publishing standards usually vanish.  Silently, like a fart in church.

About 1% of the time, the post is mostly awesome but needs a bit of tweaking to meet publishing standards.  For that, we have Almost-A-Post (probation).  Gir Bot sends you a PM with suggestions on what needs work.  It is up to you if you want to make the changes.  Did the PMs have any suggestions in them as to why the post might not have met publishing standards?  

Yes.  

One says:

The provided clue is:

M, please remove your religious comment as this is not the cider press.  Please feel free to discuss religion there.  Thank you.

And the other says:

The provided clue is:

"Thanks to crybaby Illinois, our property taxes have increased as well. Part of the reason our property prices have gone up is because of people from blue states coming over here to escape the control freak tyranny (and horribly high property taxes) in their home states. Hope they leave their politics where they came from."

and both of them give you a link to: https://permies.com/t/31128

Which makes me wonder if you were talking about religion or politics outside of the cider press?  

The next step is to have a read of the following links and then come back and ask if you have any further questions

https://permies.com/t/31128
https://permies.com/t/17422/tnk/permies-publishing-standards
https://permies.com/t/2296/tnk/nice
https://permies.com/t/24787/censorship-greed-ego-empire-building
https://permies.com/t/40410/post-meet-publishing-standards-probation

The crybaby illinois one I did edit.

I saw nothing on the other one that indicated what I did wrong.

I've had issues with the emails, and can't get some of the content and am wondering if that's what happened with this last one.

I may have misunderstood the ckder press thing, because I thought it said the post was put there. I never read in that message why though. Is it still there or did it go poof?

It must have been what I said that involved Jesus then, and no, I wasn't in the cider press when I said it. I was actually trying to help somebody.

Looking in more detail about religion.  Sometimes a passing mention is allowed on the main forums, but actual discussion of it isn't.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say.  Sometimes we leave a mention of religion up, and it leads to a shitstorm, so we clean up the mess and ask the person to remove the mention.  

It's very much an edge case and the location of the edge is fuzzy and in constant flux.  When posting on permies, it's best to stay as far away from the edge as you can if you want the posts to stay published.

Why?  Because of past experience.  We need to know people can post nicely and leave room for other peoples opinions and religion isn't one of those topics that this comes easily to.  So we have a place where people who have earned enough apples can post about hot button topics.  The Cider Press

r ranson wrote:Looking in more detail about religion.  Sometimes a passing mention is allowed on the main forums, but actual discussion of it isn't.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say.  Sometimes we leave a mention of religion up, and it leads to a shitstorm, so we clean up the mess and ask the person to remove the mention.  

It's very much an edge case and the location of the edge is fuzzy and in constant flux.  When posting on permies, it's best to stay as far away from the edge as you can if you want the posts to stay published.

Why?  Because of past experience.  We need to know people can post nicely and leave room for other peoples opinions and religion isn't one of those topics that this comes easily to.  So we have a place where people who have earned enough apples can post about hot button topics.  The Cider Press

Got it.

I want to clarify that I was trying to help and encourage another poster. I can't remember what it was even about now, but from my point of view, I told them that accepting Jesus would be the first thing I would do. As far as I know, there was no hostility at all. Unless it happened after I left the post.

I'll try to be more careful. Thanks for looking into it for me.

Hi M, just want to add to what R said that telling someone they should accept Jesus as their personal savior and without Jesus their life is nothing, is different from saying I have found a lot of peace in these scary times because of my relationship with Jesus.

Many topics can be nicer, even in the cider press, when covered this way.

I think it's great that you asked for input here.

Sonja