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'Green' Michigan Permaculturalists, just bought 5 Acres and are ready to start the lifestyle!  RSS feed

 
Nick Simcheck
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Hello Permies!

Andrea (wife) and I are 'green' to permaculture, we're here to learn and share our experiences along the way on our journey of the permaculture lifestyle.



A quick breakdown for your entertainment:

We married 8 years ago as two typical teenagers, eating fast food almost everyday and not getting any exercise.

My mother runs a co-operative sourcing local (Organic/Freerange) produce, meats, dairy, and other products. As we matured we started to 'care' about health (a few years ago I ate a mostly raw vegan diet to drop my weight from 214lbs to 145lbs in about 18 months) and have done the small scale organic garden and what-not in the past, but since we just purchased a 5 acres parcel of land we're diving head first into the permaculture lifestyle.


Right now we're getting electric onto the property (it sits 660' off the road) and planning the house site, and complete permaculture design.

It's a bit daunting right now, but with such a helpful community I'm sure we'll get there


I've attached some areal shots of the property...
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Welcome aboard and good luck with everything.
 
Jay Vinekeeper
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Sure are interesting pictures !

Someone has been planting trees before you? I wonder what their thinking was? What species are already planted?

Can you tell us where (roughly) your new land is? What is the elevation and how is the water?

Easy to start: Get yourself a good hand pruning saw (think Japanese blades and cutting only on the backstroke) and a good set of hand pruners with a belt holster and start making brush piles.

If you were in my neighborhood, I'd come and give you a hand.

be well
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Nick Simcheck wrote:
Right now we're getting electric onto the property


Is there are particular reason you're choosing grid electric instead of photovoltaic, given you're intending a permaculture lifestyle? It's much easier to start out with the intention of being off-grid than be on the grid and then go off it. Sort of like a drug...
 
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Jay Vinekeeper wrote:Sure are interesting pictures !

Someone has been planting trees before you? I wonder what their thinking was? What species are already planted?

Can you tell us where (roughly) your new land is? What is the elevation and how is the water?

Easy to start: Get yourself a good hand pruning saw (think Japanese blades and cutting only on the backstroke) and a good set of hand pruners with a belt holster and start making brush piles.

If you were in my neighborhood, I'd come and give you a hand.

be well
vinekeeper



There are non-bearing apples, and even if they did bear fruit I wouldn't be able to figure out which varieties they were!

There is also a lot of prickly pear which does bear fruit, although no very edible and native cherry which drops pea sized fruit.


I've taken a much more destructive approach, they go by the names of Cat and Stihl


I'm going to be digging for a pond and terracing, so most of the work will be building back the system after I have modeled the landscape a bit.
 
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Tyler Ludens wrote:
Nick Simcheck wrote:
Right now we're getting electric onto the property


Is there are particular reason you're choosing grid electric instead of photovoltaic, given you're intending a permaculture lifestyle? It's much easier to start out with the intention of being off-grid than be on the grid and then go off it. Sort of like a drug...



Finances mainly, and I guess I shouldn't have said "head first" as I'm more like dip my toes kinda guy...

We're building a small house *cough* township won't let me build a "garage" before the house *wink* and there won't be much roof for a PV setup right now, we're planning on being very ecological in the sense that it's an efficient design, built properly, and to last a long time before any reconstruction would be necessary.

That and I'm focusing mainly on bridging conventional aesthetics with permaculture ideology so that it appeals to many people, as I like the idea of showcasing "Look what I did here, and you can do it too!" rather than shock and frighten somebody with my compost toilet...

So the approach is more transitional I suppose.
 
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Nick Simcheck wrote:
Jay Vinekeeper wrote:Sure are interesting pictures !

Someone has been planting trees before you? I wonder what their thinking was? What species are already planted?

Can you tell us where (roughly) your new land is? What is the elevation and how is the water?

Easy to start: Get yourself a good hand pruning saw (think Japanese blades and cutting only on the backstroke) and a good set of hand pruners with a belt holster and start making brush piles.

If you were in my neighborhood, I'd come and give you a hand.

be well
vinekeeper



We're in Brighton, MI

The land itself and pretty high and dry in relation to surrounding areas. According to the DNR topo map, my property is approximately 935' above sea, and the wetlands behind me is at 887'... But I'm in a sandy, sandy loam with lots of rocks (surrounded by gravel pits nearby) and with 1" rain in 6 hours there isn't a puddle to be found within an hour.

Not sure about ground water yet...



There are non-bearing apples, and even if they did bear fruit I wouldn't be able to figure out which varieties they were!

There is also a lot of prickly pear which does bear fruit, although no very edible and native cherry which drops pea sized fruit.


I've taken a much more destructive approach, they go by the names of Cat and Stihl


I'm going to be digging for a pond and terracing, so most of the work will be building back the system after I have modeled the landscape a bit.




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