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Hi All;
I installed 48' of LED string lighting on the smoke shack today.
It works on 110vt or directly off of a 12vt battery.
I highly recommend them for any outside building , they work great!

BECCALIGHTING Outdoor String Lights 12v Safe Low Voltage Hanging LED Landscape Lighting 12 Volt DC 12VDC for Gazebo Pool Deck Patio Poles Backyard Garden RV Solar-Powered Off-Grid Living 48ft 48 Feet

I have solar panels that will be going up soon to keep the battery fully charged
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... and you have created a winter space where people want to gather.
 
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Wow Thomas that looks great!
 After all your hard work of building it  over the summer, the smoke shack finally gets to be in the spotlight.

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Yes, that does look great! I was thinking of doing something exactly like that, well not exactly because until you posted, I didn't know how or what to buy and now, I do. Thanks!

Could a dawn dusk sensor be incorporated in the install?

Nothing ruins a neighborhood like paved roads and water lines.

 
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Hi Mark;
At the peak of the roof there is a motion sensing light for approaching the building after dark.
The new lighting could be  put on a dawn/ dusk  control.
But no need to light it up unless we are cooking out there.
Saves on 12 vt battery that way as well.

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Your title just gave me an idea. A rocket burner, not for heat, but for light.

And he said, "I want to live as an honest man, to get all I deserve, and to give all I can, and to love a young woman whom I don't understand. Your Highness, your ways are very strange."

 
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Thomas, I see that you are in Montanna where if I'm not mistaken it gets a little chilly sometimes and that your battery is outside. I was worried that exposure to the cold would be an issue for the battery. In reading I found that batteries will not charge if it is too cold and that they might be damaged by trying.

Is that not the case in your experience or do you do something to counter it? I found little 12 V heaters online that might be used along maybe, with an insulated enclosure.

What type of battery do use?

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Hey Mark;
I'm in Western Montana not Minnesota.
Quite a bit more temperate here than the Midwest.
As soon as I hook up a solar panel , that battery will be receiving a charge.
Charging produces heat internally so it should be fine.

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Mark Reed wrote:Thomas, I see that you are in Montanna where if I'm not mistaken it gets a little chilly sometimes and that your battery is outside. I was worried that exposure to the cold would be an issue for the battery. In reading I found that batteries will not charge if it is too cold and that they might be damaged by trying.



As long as a flooded/wet cell lead-acid battery is kept charged, it will not freeze and will accept a charge. It's trickier if the battery discharges fully and partially freezes; in that case it has to be warmed before recharging. Sealed lead acid batteries, especially gel cells, require more coddling.
 
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Thanks for another update. This is such an inspirational project.

Cargo bikes are cool

 
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote: Sealed lead acid batteries, especially gel cells, require more coddling.



What do you mean by more coddling? That you have to be careful not to overcharge or over drain?

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I was only referring to freezing temperatures. Lead-acid gel cells had an electrolyte that was like thin jello, and charging them while frozen was a no-no. You don't see them now except in specialized applications. Most sealed lead-acid batteries these days are an absorbed glass mat, and seem more tolerant of freezing temperatures. All you can do is check the manufacturer's documentation for warnings.
 
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