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r ranson wrote:Sadness.
The normal chemicals they use here for euthanizing animals leaves the corpse a toxic mess. It has to be disposed of in a hazmat facility as it can poison water supplies. Be sure to talk to your vet about the chemicals and your intentions and they can choose better options.
randal cranor wrote:Howdy,
"So far, she is still trying to play with the other dogs sometimes (which I hate because her front leg is the one with bone cancer and I'm afraid it will break). She is still smiling her big doggy smile and giving big tail wags. Still voluntarily walking around the yard to lay in her favorite lookout spots. I've been encouraging her to come in the house more, and yesterday she spent a good part of the day stretched out on the couch. I've never seen her get up on a couch or bed before, but I guess she has some idea that she's allowed to do whatever she wants these days. Besides mostly holding up her bad leg when walking, she is giving no signs of being in pain, even though I know it must hurt. We are taking it day by day and watching her closely. I'm going to start digging the hole today, so we will be ready, because I know it will be soon."
Yes, I know the "feeling". I always wonder if my dogs feel pain. I have one that is a real character. Loves to chase sticks. He will bring them back to me, so I "taught" him to have to give them to me, put them in my hand so I don't have to bend over. What gets me the most is he is faster then the stick and sometimes gets hit by it! And doesn't even whimper but returns to "Do it again. quick, Whats takin so long, Throw the stick!" Again, I always wonder, Do they feel pain. I know I would if you hit me with a stick!
Sorry for your loss.
r ranson wrote:Here they do several injections. One to sedate. Another one to make sure the sedation is working. Then the death chemicals - which may take two or three injections depending on the size of the animal.
My family had a cat that the vet euthanized and cremated turn up a month later with burns all over her body due to insufficient chemicals (the vet was famous for his frugal approach). That used to be not uncommon before they regulated the method of euthanizing here.
Lila Stevens wrote:
I will check with my vet. The last pet my family had euthanized was nearly 20 years ago, so things may have changed since then. Maybe cremation would be the better option.
Gray Henon wrote:I’m sorry about your dog. If you consider doing it your self with a firearm, PM me and I can share my experience. We planted our old billy goat at the base of a newly planted apple tree and it is now our largest one.
Christopher Weeks wrote:
Lila Stevens wrote:
I will check with my vet. The last pet my family had euthanized was nearly 20 years ago, so things may have changed since then. Maybe cremation would be the better option.
I have buried six cats euthanized at the vet in the last 20 years and specifically asked about environmental contamination. The vet told us it was safe, but I guess it's possible they don't really know.
r ranson wrote:Here they do several injections. One to sedate. Another one to make sure the sedation is working. Then the death chemicals - which may take two or three injections depending on the size of the animal.
My family had a cat that the vet euthanized and cremated turn up a month later with burns all over her body due to insufficient chemicals (the vet was famous for his frugal approach). That used to be not uncommon before they regulated the method of euthanizing here.
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elle sagenev wrote:And I'm posting again to weigh in on the "how to kill them" argument. So we've had lots of dog euthanized and buried them just fine. We also shot one, as we knew he needed put down before we got to the vet. I will say I think the shooting was kinder, TO THE ANIMAL. My husband is very good at putting animals down, since we do kill pigs, etc. So the dog died without any real pain or trauma, that we can tell. When we get to the vet and are informed the dog is unsavable we do have them euthanized there. If I had the choice for the dog, I'd pick shooting. Way harder on my husband though. Not that either option is easy really. It's nicer to the animal though, to not be packed up and taken somewhere where they smell suffering and strangers.
Either way, make sure you are there with them till the end, that's what matters.
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elle sagenev wrote:Oh yes. Not advocating either way. It was tough on my husband to shoot the dog. I wasn't present, I was with the kids. I don't know how I would have handled it and I've seen tons of things get shot. But I've had enough dogs euthanized to know that they don't quite love that. So it's totally a lose lose.
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elle sagenev wrote:P.S. Our great pyr, 13, also has cancer. We did not anticipate him living beyond the year but here we are and he's looking better than ever. My husband started giving him CBD and turkey tail mushrooms. His tumor, which was very visible and spreading, actually got way smaller. It's crazy. He's doing way better.
Telling me it can't be done is my biggest motivation to making it happen.
Molly Gordon wrote:Sorry you have to go through this. All pet owners (and people) do at some point. I'm not a gun advocate but I'm pretty confident using them. I borrowed a neighbor's pistol and put down two beloved dogs and a cat when their time came. This after going through the euthanasia experience at the vet's office which I Absolutely hated. I stood out in the parking lot and cried buckets, not caring who saw me. Waiting for them to come out and tell me it was over felt like a lifetime. Vowed I would never do that again. It just felt so wrong for me not to be there when they left this world.
I just felt so much more in control and in tune with my pets' end of life experience when I did it myself. And, yes, you need to be very careful with a loaded weapon and all that emotion. Also, and I don't know this to be fact, but an anesthesiologist MD told me the pre-pills/shots for pain are hogwash. Just an extra charge. Animal is gone even before pain pill/shot kicks in and the other treatment kicks in without pain. Husband couldn't be anywhere near when I did it but did help with burial. This will sound callous, but a tip for you. Even with a small animal it is astonishing how heavy your animal feels when it is lifeless. So, you need to have that hole dug already if you are doing it at home with a gun.
I cringe when I think back on the vet experience. Not that they weren't good people, it was just such a bad experience for me. Such an incredible feeling of helplessness. I look back with love and comfort on the experience of those I put down myself. Knowing I was with them at literally their last breath, being able to say goodbye in a good way and knowing I was helping a much loved pet out of their pain instantly made it worth it. Pulling that trigger is a hard thing to do and a sobering experience. But I would do it all over again in a heartbeat.
You mention yard, so I'm assuming you aren't out in the countryside. Really check out local regulations on inground pet burial. You don't want a neighbor turning you in. In fact, I wouldn't tell anyone because people just don't get that. No offense to anyone who has done this, I think pet cemeteries and pet cremations are ridiculous. But that's me. As well (at least in California), you are supposed to declare this burial when you sell your property. Thought we would live on our countryside slice of heaven forever, but life changes sometimes. We went through a rapid sale and closing. Then we packed up the last of our stuff and set out on a 9 state cross-country move to the East Coast. At about Wyoming, when my mind finally had time to process it all, I went OH %$*$! We had read the fine print well, but I'm sure under some vague wording there was a paragraph or sentence area where we were supposed to declare the burials. Since I knew the trust fund babies who had bought our property would be doing fancy landscaping right away, we waited for the indignant call from them or their landscape folks. Not a word, so guess we went deep enough, which is also a good tip for you as well.
Best of luck, you have my heartfelt sympathy.
Tereza Okava wrote:I'm sorry, Lila. Your dog was lucky to have someone so concerned about her suffering. Thank you for keeping us posted and for talking about this difficult issue (I've been following because I have a senior dog with bad hips- his pain is under control for now but I know it won't always be. I dread that day but I also want to do right by him, like you did.).
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