Kevin Hoover wrote:Blake,
I haven’t found oysters to taste like lobster, but everybody’s taste buds are different. But lions mane does taste like crab.
If you want to grow oysters, the simplest way I’ve found so far is on straw in buckets. You could use hardwood chips in place of the straw, but it would not yield as quickly.
I take a five gallon bucket with a lid, and a drill with a quarter inch bit. Drill three or four drain holes in the bottom, then drill holes all over the bucket, spaced about four inches apart. There is no need to be exact.
Soak straw overnight, weighting it down. A wheel barrow or trash can works well. Pull the wet straw out to drain off excess water. Put a two or three inch layer of straw in the bottom of the bucket, compressing it. Then scatter blue oyster spawn over it. Put in another layer of straw, then more spawn, and repeat until the bucket is full. Put the lid on the bucket and put it someplace shaded and out of the wind.
In about five weeks it should start pinning,at that point spray the pins and developing mushrooms at least twice a day (you can’t overspray). Pick each cluster of mushrooms as the first mushroom in the cluster starts to turn its cap up.
If you do multiple buckets, you can stack them. I find one bag of spawn will make eight buckets. A bale of straw yields 10-16 buckets, depending on the size of the bale and how tightly its packed.
Initial cost is higher, if you’re buying the buckets and spawn. Subsequent buckets are very economical, as you only have the cost of straw.
Kevin Hoover wrote:Lions mane is more difficult to grow. .
Blake Lenoir wrote:Capital idea! Have mushrooms been grown in buckets for decades? I wanna go to truffles and how they related to mushrooms. I was wondering if they could grow on hugelkulter beds in the same way as mushrooms. How could truffles be grown on hugelkulter and do they special care?
John Hutter wrote:I tried 3 times plug inoculating logs (shitaki, oyster, lions mane) and then mostly burying them with an exposed end ~3 months later, hoping for choice mushrooms and faster soil food bonus. But no choice shrooms were ever seen in those attempts...
In my PNW rainforest experience, anything other than winecap is going to fail to be competitive with the many types of fungus the ground is already crawling with. Even then, I saw a few dozen winecaps over a few years come out of the 3 yards of oak chips I raked out into a 4-6" layer. And then the winecaps were gone...hardly a success for the input.
Mostly I've seen many different troops of small inedible mushrooms on ~300' of 3' tall hugel berms. Sulfur tuft dominates the conifer, turkey tail and polypores if it isn't buried, with a relatively rare flush of conifer tufts now and then. One time a noble fir hugel put out over 100 large white dapperlings (4-6" thick and meaty caps) in the third year. Too bad they're a volva away from the Destroying Angel and most of them rotted before I finished the edibility test. And they all but disappeared in subsequent years.
It seems like trying to control fungus on/in the ground in an environment with an active and diverse resident fungus population is a lost cause. Or I was just doing it wrong : )
I landed on the solution of keeping the processes separate; suitable deciduous logs are used as Blue Oyster (#1 aggro grow winner here) logs in stacks held off the ground by either rock or cedar) and once they are spent as Oyster logs a few years later, they are somewhat spongified and ready to be returned to the Earth in hugel form.
Or you could say, mushroom cultivation is the first step of hugelculture with fresh-cut clear deciduous logs....it's a 5 year plan though.