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Bring bugs with me or leave them behind?

 
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So I recently got some land, twenty acres of chaparral in N. California, and I'm getting ready to go up there and do all the things.

For the last couple of years I've been collecting seeds, and I've sprouted a few around the house to eventually transplant once I had a place to transplant them to.  Now that fine day has arrived, and I am faced with something of a dilemma.

On the one hand, I really want to bring these plants with me.

On the other hand, they are "infested" with life, they're a live culture.  They have Eisenia foetida and little millipedes and woodlice in them.  I also have a compost pile that has all kinds of critters including Arcitalitrus sylvaticus or "lawn shrimp".  Pretty much all of these are non-native.

So my question is, should I just bring seeds and build soil on-site with the folks (bugs & such) already living there, or do I bring tiny "livestock" with me and hope for the best?

A wrinkle is that I'm pretty sure my brain is trying to rationalize leaving them behind to make packing and moving easier.

Some plants are definitely going: Torrey Pine and Macadamia, but those are already in air-prune containers, they're meant to be "installed" as bare-root trees when the time comes.  And I am going to bring E. foetida but I'm going to isolate them in containers (with water moats!  They migrate!) so they can't get out and start chewing their way up and down the creek, or whatever.

What do you think?  Am I being too cautious or not cautious enough?
 
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Are you sure any worms will create a problem?
It seems they may actually be helpful.
 
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I have transplanted lots of plants from one property to another without any problem.

Of course, I may not have had the problem bugs you are describing.

My suggestion would be to go ahead and take them with you.  The plants might enjoy a good bath which might rinse off the offending bugs.
 
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@John  To be perfectly frank, I have no idea.   On the one hand, I doubt they would survive because it's pretty dry and it gets a bit of snow in winter, on the other hand if they get into the moist creek bed they might start spreading just fine.  Whether or not that would be a good thing overall in the long-term life of the region, who can say?

It's actually one of the biggest questions facing humanity (in my opinion): Do we "garden" the Earth?  Or try to restore something like the original ecosystems? (And what does "original" mean in this context?  Life is dynamic and chaotic after all.)  E. O. Wilson has (had, RIP) a project called "Half Earth" that proposes setting aside half of the Earth as a Nature reserve.  He says that would allow for the largest patterns to unfold (long distance migrations, etc.)  I like that idea.

It seems to me that it's too late in general to halt ecosystem mixing (there's got to be a formal term for it?) we have spread too many species to too many places.  But that doesn't, to my mind, give me the right to fling E. foetida around willy-nilly, does it?  I don't know.

@Anne  If I understand you correctly, you're in favor of transplanting the plants bare-root?  I hadn't really thought of that.  (I'm taking the trees in their mesh bags, they've been isolated from all the critters, store-bought soil, not from our yard.)

Cheers!
 
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Simon said, "Anne  If I understand you correctly, you're in favor of transplanting the plants bare-root?  I hadn't really thought of that.  (I'm taking the trees in their mesh bags, they've been isolated from all the critters, store-bought soil, not from our yard.)



No that is not what I was suggesting.

So I am guessing I misunderstood what you are wanting to do.

So are you concerned with organisms in the soil?

I was suggesting spraying the plant with water to wash bugs off the leaves, limbs, etc.
 
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Yeah, the critters are in the soil: woodlice and worms etc.
 
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