• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Fruit trees and Rootstock

 
                      
Posts: 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Are there benefits to planting trees with the same rootstock togheter?
 
Posts: 557
Location: Sierra Nevada foothills, 350 m, USDA 8b, sunset zone 7
96
  • Likes 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
In my opinion it is not good - it's some form of a rootstock monoculture. If may turn out that a chosen rootstock will have a problem in a given setting.
I always pick standard or close to standard rootstock that will make large trees for three reasons: lifespan, better tasting fruit, potential drought resistance.
 
steward
Posts: 2878
Location: Zone 7b/8a Southeast US
1106
4
forest garden fish trees foraging earthworks food preservation cooking bee woodworking homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Cristobal Cristo wrote: I always pick standard or close to standard rootstock that will make large trees for three reasons: lifespan, better tasting fruit, potential drought resistance.



I love standards for these reasons also. They also seem to be much more generally healthy and resist pests better for me also.

I have had good luck with seedling rootstock and bury the graft underground to encourage the fruiting variety to send out its own roots.
 
steward and tree herder
Posts: 8387
Location: Isle of Skye, Scotland. Nearly 70 inches rain a year
3975
4
transportation dog forest garden foraging trees books food preservation woodworking wood heat rocket stoves ungarbage
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The only advantage I can think of at the moment is that known rootstocks have been chosen to give predictable final sizes for the fruiting trees. So in a monoculture orchard you can plant the trees Xft apart to give good spacing for the grown tree. However, the scion also will affect the size that the tree grows to, so unless you plant only the same variety of fruit (all golden delicious apple or all morello cherry for example) then even this advantage is lost a bit. There may be a case for using a rootstock with a known disease resistance, as I believe they do for grape vines in some areas, but I don't think these have been selected for top fruit trees as yet.
 
Posts: 16
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Well, the pros are that you get a larger harvest from a smaller space, and the fact that these rootstocks are compatible means you don’t have to worry about conflicts between the different species of tree. The cons would be that if one tree gets sick, the others may catch it too. Also, pruning and training the trees can take a bit more effort if they’re all growing together. Bottom line - it’s a great solution if you’re short on space, but remember to keep an eye on those trees!
 
If a tomato is a fruit, does that mean ketchup is a smoothie? What if we mix in a tiny ad?
GAMCOD 2025: 200 square feet; Zero degrees F or colder; calories cheap and easy
https://permies.com/wiki/270034/GAMCOD-square-feet-degrees-colder
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic