Brendan McNamara wrote: I was brainstorming a garden networking app that would be sort of like facebook meets craiglist meets meetup meets google maps for people with sustainability-oriented projects in a community to get together online. I know that sounds like permies.com, do they have an app? Maybe I'm talking to the wrong crowd about app development but that's part of my point, the line between the organic and the techno needs to come down big time in order for "normal people" to access the funky freshness of permaculture.
Su Ba wrote:John, I gather that you idea is based on the premise that farmers welcome strangers on their farms. Around my area I know of only one vegetable farm owner that does. There are a number of coffee farms that offer tours but they don't allow picking. I agree that there are farmers who earn income by having the public there, but the farmers I know don't want the headaches. I use to let the public come to my farm but I've stopped that. No more. Lots of problems and hassles. In my opinion, it's not worth the damage and the risks.
In my experience, unskilled people ruin more of the crop than they successfully pick. They step on plants, pick stuff too young then discard it, pull up plants. I lost a whole crop of jicama and a whole patch of sweet potato when a person pulled every plant too soon.
I don't expect to see permaculture become mainstream among big commercial producers. Just my opinion. But will the buying public embrace it? Will they want to come to the oermaculture farm? I guess if you can link it to "organic", then they will come. They will come in hopes of getting cheap food. They will come to use the event as a family outing, a mini-vacation, something to entertain the kids. I don't think they will care all that much about the actual farming process except to give it a brief thought....then get back to their suburban/urban lifestyle.
So how does one go about changing the opinion of farmers, like me, and the non-farm public? I don't know. I think it will be a tough job.
Su Ba wrote:John, I gather that you idea is based on the premise that farmers welcome strangers on their farms. Around my area I know of only one vegetable farm owner that does. There are a number of coffee farms that offer tours but they don't allow picking.