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PIE bug in the system?

 
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I had two pieces of pie. One expired yesterday, and the other was supposed to expire on 3/5 according to the "Find My Pie" section.  From my understanding the pie has a 1 month shelf life, and my second piece was awarded on 1/12, so if anything shouldn't it at least be good until 2/12?  

Bummer! I was hoping to gift it to someone before the expiration..  

Have I discovered a bug in the system?  
 
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Don't know about pies but when paying rent, if you pay for one week starting on a Monday, your rent is paid up to the Sunday.

Monthly is more complicated, there are variable numbers of weeks in each month so monthly could be four weekly cycles so if we use a start date of Mon 5 Feb the expiration date would be Sun 3 March.

Clear as mud??
 
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Ah, I see what happened. You had two pieces of pie, and you'd received your first piece on January 4th. Each pie gives you 1 month of free pie goodness. It's like a month of food.

You thought that if you gave it away before it expired, the other piece would maintain it's expiration date of March 4th. Alas, this is not how pie works.

If I give away a piece of pie, that reduces the amount of pie time I have by one month. 1 piece of pie = 1 month.

The only time it makes sense to give away a piece of pie before it expires, is when it's your very last piece of pie.

Here's what I'm thinking. You give that last piece of pie where you want to give it, and then post again in this thread after you do so. I'll give you a piece of pie then so you'll have a new month of pie!
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:Ah, I see what happened. You had two pieces of pie, and you'd received your first piece on January 4th. Each pie gives you 1 month of free pie goodness. It's like a month of food.

You thought that if you gave it away before it expired, the other piece would maintain it's expiration date of March 4th. Alas, this is not how pie works.

If I give away a piece of pie, that reduces the amount of pie time I have by one month. 1 piece of pie = 1 month.

The only time it makes sense to give away a piece of pie before it expires, is when it's your very last piece of pie.

Here's what I'm thinking. You give that last piece of pie where you want to give it, and then post again in this thread after you do so. I'll give you a piece of pie then so you'll have a new month of pie!



Thanks for offering to help with more pie Nicole!  

I still feel a bit confused about this.  Attaching a screen shot from my "find my pie" page.  

As you can see, my first piece of pie received 1/5. Then expired 2/5 (today), and I was able to gift that one before expiration on 1/23.

Second piece of pie received on 1/12, and it says that the expiration is on 3/5, but if I understand it correctly then it should actually be good until 2/12..?  

Either way I should still have that piece of pie? But I don't. It seems that the system treated my second pie as if it were the first, and now its gone.  

Gir bot....you seeing this buddy?!  

Also, while reading another thread posted a few years ago (I cant recall exactly which thread or how long ago it was posted) it was mentioned that pie is given for every 20 apples received.  I did get pie for after my first 20 apples, but I never got one after getting to 40.  Was this the case before, and has it changed in the system since?  

Its really not a big deal for me whether or not I have all the pie or not.  I mainly just want to do my part to point something out that might also be affecting others.  Maybe it is something that can be corrected easily on the back end?  

Or maybe i'm just not understanding something correctly?  If that is the case I must apologize in advance for the neural network malfunction in my head, and for taking away anybodies time out of the day to look into this.  



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Let me see if I understand.

You have two pieces of pie and one is nearly gone.  You give one away.  So now you have one piece of pie.  And you are saying "bug" because the piece of pie you gave away was the whole piece, but you wanted to give away the partial piece.  

Am I close?
 
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I think he figured that since one piece of pie was given on January 4th, that one would expire on February 4th. So he gave that one away.

The second piece of pie was given to him on January 12th, and he figured that one would at least last until February 12th. Instead, it expires today, 7 days earlier than a month after it was given.
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:I think he figured that since one piece of pie was given on January 4th, that one would expire on February 4th. So he gave that one away.

The second piece of pie was given to him on January 12th, and he figured that one would at least last until February 12th. Instead, it expires today, 7 days earlier than a month after it was given.



It seems to me that if you have two pieces of pie, and you give one piece of pie away, we do not have the ability to say which piece of pie was given.  So either piece can be given.  And so it is possible that the newer piece of pie was given, leaving the piece of pie that expires on the 4th.

It seems our system is working perfectly.

 
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It seems our system is working perfectly.



Thanks for chiming in Paul, and sorry to distract you from more important things.  My mistake.

I didn't realize that there was a way to choose which piece of pie can be given away. My assumption was that this was automatic.  

Maybe I shouldn't put blame on Ger bot. I was starting to think Ger ate my pie!

And to Tina...thank you for your generous gift of more delicious pie.  

Also after digging into one of the pie threads I was able to find another answer to one of my other questions. Paul did indeed change the pie rewards from every 20 apples, to only after the first 20 apples.  

paul wheaton wrote:When a person gets to 20 apples, they get a slice of free pie.  

When a person gets to 40 apples, or 60 apples or 80 apples, no more free pie.  

Of course, whenever somebody gives you pie, you get pie.  

This is all part of the staff trying to deal with stuff in the cider press.  This is one of the strategies to make it so that there are fewer posts to the cider press - so less staff time gets sucked into the cider press.



From this thread in case any body else wants to learn more without having to take up the time of the amazing staff here:

https://permies.com/wiki/pie#421411
 
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Arthur Wierzchos wrote:
Maybe I shouldn't put blame on Ger bot. I was starting to think Ger ate my pie!



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