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Why ZERO money and not LESS money?

Posts: 1981
Location: La Palma (Canary island) Zone 11
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I do not focus on the man who quit money, as I can be as provocative as his example can be!
He is useful because he is provocative.
BUT I believe that his example should be to go on with less money before anything else.

He will not be useful if people just become frightened for their health insurance!!

So, let me be as "provocative", for the debate let's say...
(I will not speak about this man that I do not know and those example is great in a way)

Living without money is not living without money, it is living with others' money.
I do not have a car, but I hitchhike and accompany my neighbors when ever I can.
This is not my money, but this is money.

Food left-overs comes from food that has been paid.
I often get free clothes, except under-wear...
But these clothes have been paid for, and were made in China or wherever, and cost in transport etc.

So, living without car for me is great, as long as some other people have a car!
So, reusing clothes is great as long as some people leave clothes!
Living without money is great as long as some other people have money.
Our society, I believe, do have to leave money, but leave money as a business and a way to make money with money in a bank.

So, what bothers me in many radical decision, is not the personal experience, every one is free, but the example for others.

I would compare this with raw food. Everybody knows that eating some raw products is better, whatever the real necessary %
But reaching 100%, whatever it is, looks like a victory or a challenge, or something to be uncommonly proud of!
Some people are ill because they eat only 10% raw (thanks to bananas, avocados and chocolate mousse!)
Does it mean we have to feel a failure when eating 10% cooked food? Why 100%?

Are examples of 100% the only worth showing on TV?
I do not like what triggers fear.
Don't we need some help to plan on how to change, to evolve, to go down about something, to go up about something else?
So yes, living without money is a goal, but lacking intermediates for many people.
We need something regular to follow. We need to plan, we need to write down that this week month or year we consumed less.
We need to be safe in what we do. We need to keep courage for the way to frugality.
Xisca Nicolas
Posts: 1981
Location: La Palma (Canary island) Zone 11
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About Daniel from the book, I would better like to know about his process.
I know this was a spiritual process, a change in the state of mind, but I mean more on the practical way of doing it.

Also, I think that money is money, no more and must not be confused with wealth or even local exchange.
there are 2 problems:
- fear
- confusion and extension about what is "money". This is a tool, this is not wealth.
and confusion about what is "money" and what is "the way to use it".

So, I absolutely know that we do what we can do, and that we humans are adaptative.
for example, I use left overs, and Daniel also use some. I do not do it for food, or rarely.
We adapt to our environment, to diminish waste.

for me, what he does in this way is more important than not using personal money.
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