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Headlines say that it looks like egg price prices will continue to rise.

I am thankful the headline is not that animal feeds continue to rise to an all-time high because we are still sorting out how to use less and less of the commercial organic feeds.

We are up to 25 layers and eat at least 10 eggs a day, more if baking. We trade our neighbors eggs a dozen at a time and they buy us the organic feed once they have received so many dozen from us. It is a really nice barter.

I understand but do not necessarily appreciate the law of supply and demand. It seems to affect my community negatively.

-Do most of you permies have your own egg supply?

-Do you ever supplement from the store if you do not produce enough?
 
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Hi Josh,

We have our own egg supply from six laying hens. They are going strong, even through the winter.
They're not getting extra light, but for the first time we're supplementing insect protein in the form of dried mealworms. They love it and gift us with eggs.

In the past, if we didn't get enough eggs from our chicken, we bought from the store.

Also, in the past we've gifted our 'extra' eggs to the neighbors, but our neighbors now have their own chicken.
We now feed any surplus eggs, cooked, to the dogs and sometimes to the chicken.
 
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Nina Surya wrote:Hi Josh,

We have our own egg supply from six laying hens. They are going strong, even through the winter.
They're not getting extra light, but for the first time we're supplementing insect protein in the form of dried mealworms. They love it and gift us with eggs.

In the past, if we didn't get enough eggs from our chicken, we bought from the store.

Also, in the past we've gifted our 'extra' eggs to the neighbors, but our neighbors now have their own chicken.
We now feed any surplus eggs, cooked, to the dogs and sometimes to the chicken.



I like the use of the surplus eggs! I will have a boiled egg occasionally be difficult to peel and I can tell right away. I toss to the chickens and they go crazy over it. That is god to know that dogs like the cooked eggs as well.
 
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Josh Hoffman wrote: I will have a boiled egg occasionally be difficult to peel and I can tell right away.

The fresher the egg, the harder they are to peel. If I know I want to hard boil a bunch for something special like Deviled Eggs, I have to hide a carton in the back of the fridge for a couple of weeks.
 
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Jay Angler wrote:

Josh Hoffman wrote: I will have a boiled egg occasionally be difficult to peel and I can tell right away.

The fresher the egg, the harder they are to peel. If I know I want to hard boil a bunch for something special like Deviled Eggs, I have to hide a carton in the back of the fridge for a couple of weeks.



I have noticed that as well. I "boil" them in the instant pot.

I refrigerate them for a week, put a dozen in the pot, 1 cup water and pressure cook for 5 mins. I let natural release for 5 mins and then refrigerate for a 3-5 days before I peel. I think if you are in a hurry, you can put them in an ice bath but I hate being in a hurry. We typically boil and pickle our excess eggs.

We have a couple folks stop by in the summer just so we will offer them the pickled eggs. They know we will have a surplus then. We are happy to give them and they usualy bring some watermelon, okra or fish fillets for trade.
 
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I purchased and read Leigh Tate's books through permies and she has an egg preservation booklet. Very interesting stuff!

https://permies.com/t/192096/Preserve-Eggs-Leigh-Tate
 
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Josh Hoffman wrote:I have noticed that as well. I "boil" them in the instant pot.

I refrigerate them for a week, put a dozen in the pot, 1 cup water and pressure cook for 5 mins. I let natural release for 5 mins and then refrigerate for a 3-5 days before I peel. I think if you are in a hurry, you can put them in an ice bath but I hate being in a hurry. We typically boil and pickle our excess eggs.



You are very close to the "perfect hard boiled eggs" recipe (5-5-5 method) that I use.
  1- Use older eggs as noted above.  Very fresh eggs may not peel well.
  2- Use instant pot to pressure cook on the "egg" setting for five minutes.
  3- Allow it to natural release for five minutes.
  4- Move the eggs to a container of cold water for five minutes.
The eggs will peel well and won't have the dark ring around the yolk that you can easily run into.
 
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You are very close to the "perfect hard boiled eggs" recipe (5-5-5 method) that I use.
  1- Use older eggs as noted above.  Very fresh eggs may not peel well.
  2- Use instant pot to pressure cook on the "egg" setting for five minutes.
  3- Allow it to natural release for five minutes.
  4- Move the eggs to a container of cold water for five minutes.
The eggs will peel well and won't have the dark ring around the yolk that you can easily run into.



We did this for some time but we do not have an ice maker so we would make it in trays. I did not like having to use the ice bath.

I discovered that you can let the eggs cool enough to carton up after natural release, place in fridge and peel after a few days. I usually wait 3-5 days. They peel very easily and I do not need to worry about the ice.

Not a good solution if you are in a hurry. Ice bath is a must in those circumstances.
 
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Hello Josh!  

I have been buying eggs this winter.  About $10 per dozen here for organic free range eggs.   I feel ok about it though.  I am glad that folks who are making this a business are getting paid.

My hens and ducks stopped laying this winter.  I could have supplemented them with fats and more protien but I just let them take a rest.   Now spring is coming closer and they have started laying.  I realize how much I missed having my own eggs!

I plan to bring on new hens this spring so I can keep my family in eggs year round going forward.  
I think it helps a lot to ferment the feed.  They eat less and get more nutrients.  I also save the extra bits from butchering time.  We do a sheep harvest in late fall and I save all the offal for pet and chicken feed.   This year I let them eat it up early and did not have any left to carry us through winter.   So I paid for my mistake with having to buy eggs.

I preserve our surplus eggs using the techniques in this book.  My favorite is water glassing with hydrated lime.  Or I pickle them with lacto-ferment pickle juice when hard boiled:

https://permies.com/t/192096/Preserve-Eggs-Leigh-Tate

I love how Leigh explains things.  All the little details to keep it safe and be so much fun!


If eggs get broken or old they go to cats and dogs.
 
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Josh Hoffman wrote:We did this for some time but we do not have an ice maker so we would make it in trays. I did not like having to use the ice bath.

I discovered that you can let the eggs cool enough to carton up after natural release, place in fridge and peel after a few days. I usually wait 3-5 days. They peel very easily and I do not need to worry about the ice.

Not a good solution if you are in a hurry. Ice bath is a must in those circumstances.



I don't use ice water.  I just use cold tap water.  Works well.
 
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Samantha Lewis wrote:I have been buying eggs this winter.  About $10 per dozen here for organic free range eggs.   I feel ok about it though.  I am glad that folks who are making this a business are getting paid.

My hens and ducks stopped laying this winter.  I could have supplemented them with fats and more protien but I just let them take a rest.   Now spring is coming closer and they have started laying.  I realize how much I missed having my own eggs!

I plan to bring on new hens this spring so I can keep my family in eggs year round going forward.  



FYI- In my experience, it is almost always first year hens that lay in winter and not all of them.  Older hens almost always will molt and rest over the winter.  
 
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Cujo Liva wrote:

I don't use ice water.  I just use cold tap water.  Works well.



I will try this, thank you for clarifying! I had only seen the 5,5,5 with an ice bath.
 
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Samantha Lewis wrote:I have been buying eggs this winter.  About $10 per dozen here for organic free range eggs.   I feel ok about it though.  I am glad that folks who are making this a business are getting paid.
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Samantha, I appreciate this. Having some local farms who share similar values in quality of food is very helpful.

We would eventually like to add some additional animals and garden crops but since we have some local supply of quality foods, it is a win win to patronize them and wait. We are able to spend our dollars here and support other folks and this "buys" us time to understand and do a really good job with what we have.

We can grow slowly and confidently and support the local economy while doing so.

Great perspective, thanks for bringing that up!
 
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This is a fun take on egg prices by Joel S.

https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/2/10/2025/eggs-and-super-bowl-bets

These questions are interesting.

What do you think?
 
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My take on food price spikes is that I just buy something else.  There's usually something else I'd rather spend the money on.  I just think of it as being resilient.  I don't raise any animals myself anymore.
 
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Howdy!
I mistimed my chicks back in 2022 - 2023 when I was recovering from medical shenanigans and ended up with no young hens to lay this past winter. We've been buying grocery store eggs because our local farmer's market is hard to find, moves around a lot, and generally has 3 booths - 2 MLMs and someone selling puppies of some sort. Maybe the coming year will see changes there.

My pullets from last summer have just started laying and it's very exciting to have fresh eggs again, after a long drought of egglessness - too many retired hens, a late bunch of chicks, and all kinds of random foolishness going on. The Great Horned Owl who decided we were the local Stop 'n' Shop was a big surprise!

Right now I need to be making decisions about the garden and flock. My young goose has started laying, along with the older two, and I haven't made a plan about that, either.

Locally, the feed price hasn't changed appreciably in recent memory, so my sales prices going out will be the same it has been - I try to base selling eggs on feed prices and not on anything else. I generally have a dozen to give away to someone who needs them or would find them a blessing, and we get whatever eggs I'm not willing to sell, minus what goes in the incubator.

Anything left over that we don't eat (or if I can't find a buyer or person who could use a dozen or three), gets experimented with. I've tried water glassing and learned a lot about what works here - glass jars are better than plastic. Freezing doesn't work for me so well, but I will probably keep trying. After that? I feed the eggs back to the chickens; I used to feed them to the dogs/cat, but both dogs and cat have passed from this mortal coil.

I would love to get involved with a barter system, but can't drive and the neighbors all have chickens. No biggie. I'll figure something out.
 
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make friends with a gardener nearby.

for example, im a gardener and I know i have lots of failed brassicas that i'd gladly give away to chicken owners.
 
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Sometimes I buy eggs directly from farmers, but more often, I buy from the grocery store. An interesting thing has been happening with the price. No change. Or maybe they're up ten percent? I buy the most expensive eggs at the store. I want them as free range as possible, as local as possible, fed with premium organic feed, grown at a farm I'm allowed to visit, and ideally coddled in an enriched environment. Those eggs are about $5-6 per dozen. They have been for years. Now the most expensive ones in the market are sometimes $6.50. It's just been a little weird seeing all the gloom online about egg prices only to keep plugging away with very little change.
 
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Greg Martin wrote:My take on food price spikes is that I just buy something else.  There's usually something else I'd rather spend the money on.  I just think of it as being resilient.  I don't raise any animals myself anymore.



this is my view also.
We can't fight the raccoons to raise chickens here by the creek anymore as there's just a steady stream  of them.
It's been fairly easy to ration our egg use and fill in the gaps with other proteins.
We have a great source of raw milk so I'm thinking of going from our regular gallon a week to two and up my yogurt production.

For those of you already raising chickens, you have something precious
 
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Kristine Keeney wrote:My young goose has started laying, along with the older two, and I haven't made a plan about that, either.



Geese. Interesting. I have never had one of their eggs. I have read that folks also have ostrich for their eggs.

How does the goose egg compare to a chicken egg?
 
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Enlightening discussion here, thanks to all for boiled/preserved ideas.  We give away lots of eggs to friends, no real bartering but like all things ...our gifts come back in small ways.

I started with 53 straight run chicks about 22 years ago. Brilliant idea. Not.
I was partly aiming for soil enrichment so built five movable tractors. Predation from skunks, raccoons,  possums and others meant a struggle.

After a long day of work I often was greeted by a Gladiator 2 scenario; in my ignorance I neglected to predict the multiple roosters battling so intensely for dominance. Cue the stove being  lit for Coq au Vin.

One grizzled veteran of the battles gave me the name of our 7 acres: One-eyed Jack Farm
 
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Rico Loma wrote:Enlightening discussion here, thanks to all for boiled/preserved ideas.  We give away lots of eggs to friends, no real bartering but like all things ...our gifts come back in small ways.

I started with 53 straight run chicks about 22 years ago. Brilliant idea. Not.
I was partly aiming for soil enrichment so built five movable tractors. Predation from skunks, raccoons,  possums and others meant a struggle.

After a long day of work I often was greeted by a Gladiator 2 scenario; in my ignorance I neglected to predict the multiple roosters battling so intensely for dominance. Cue the stove being  lit for Coq au Vin.

One grizzled veteran of the battles gave me the name of our 7 acres: One-eyed Jack Farm



Pretty close to our experience as well, with possible twist being the cold climate.  As I type this from just waking, it's -22 degrees F outside.  Because the chickens over the years sorted out into their own clans, they ended up choosing their favorite outbuildings for roosting,---one building being a deliberate chicken coop, the others just inhabited due to 'clan-ism'. When it gets below 0F, the nightly ritual is to plug in various heat lamps to keep warmth in the building, but all buildings were built with south-facing windows and tend to warm into the 30s by day, the sun increasing in strength with each passing week.  The downside of the heat lamps being on is that it induces egg laying,....just too early in the season.  If  hen lays and I don't find the eggs within a few hours, those eggs will freeze and crack (still useful, but not so storable).   Because of our livestock guard dogs, ground-based predators are now a minimum and the losses are more from hawks and owls, but the chickens  through years of natural selection have become quite wild and wary.  Rooster fights are an issue, but are the easiest way to whack a few unruly males, so focused are they on the battle at hand. But soon it will be warming up to the point of needing to provide nesting boxes, even as the hens now, if they want to raise a clutch, will need to nest in a hidden place....something they are very skilled at these days!
 
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Josh Hoffman wrote:
How does the goose egg compare to a chicken egg?




Taste-wise, they are about the same. Goose eggs are great when scrambled but not so good for pan-frying (they're a little tough).

I hear that people who like to bake tend to prefer goose eggs.
 
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Judith Browning wrote:For those of you already raising chickens, you have something precious



It's been interesting watching the discussions about egg prices online- mostly on the Nextdoor site (oriented towards local news/for sale/etc).  Egg prices have gone way up and down over the last few years, but mine just keep producing and fortunately, the feed prices have been fairly steady.  

I sympathize with those struggling with high egg prices.  Eggs are one of the cheapest sources of quality protein and nutrition available.  It would help if the government would not use top-down directives to kill 100 million chickens in the US because a small number have bird flu and allow other solutions to be tried.
 
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I have read that egg prices are not going to be going down.

The last time we were at a grocery store an 18 count carton was almost $10.00.

Even at that price I feel that makes for a cheap breakfast.
 
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Anne Miller wrote:I have read that egg prices are not going to be going down.

The last time we were at a grocery store an 18 count carton was almost $10.00.

Even at that price I feel that makes for a cheap breakfast.



I have to agree with this. Considering the prices of other animal proteins, the per serving price of eggs is still the lowest - so yeh, we keep buying those sub-par-compared-to-home-raised-store-bought eggs. My youngest girls are due to start laying any time now, and the days are beginning to get longer, so my 2 & 4yr olds will hopefully start up again, soon - and I'm SO ready!!
 
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The store brand dozen here is $6.12. That is up quite a bit due to the slaughtering of all the birds in poultry cafos. I think that is the issue.

Chickens are such a joy for us to have. We watch "the chicken channel" everyday in early morning and evening. I am sorry, that as some posts indicate, some of you are unable to have them. I hope there is a local source for you that is not affected by these events.



 
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Pete Podurgiel wrote:

Josh Hoffman wrote:
How does the goose egg compare to a chicken egg?




Taste-wise, they are about the same. Goose eggs are great when scrambled but not so good for pan-frying (they're a little tough).

I hear that people who like to bake tend to prefer goose eggs.



Yeah.....I'll use 1 goose egg to replace 3 chicken eggs in a baking recipe.  I used to give most of our goose eggs to someone from the Philippenes who used them for salt water brining, then hard boiling.  Just note that the ratio of yolk to white is quite a bit higher with a goose egg compared to chicken egg as well.
 
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John Weiland wrote:

Pete Podurgiel wrote:

Josh Hoffman wrote:
How does the goose egg compare to a chicken egg?




Taste-wise, they are about the same. Goose eggs are great when scrambled but not so good for pan-frying (they're a little tough).

I hear that people who like to bake tend to prefer goose eggs.



Yeah.....I'll use 1 goose egg to replace 3 chicken eggs in a baking recipe.  I used to give most of our goose eggs to someone from the Philippenes who used them for salt water brining, then hard boiling.  Just note that the ratio of yolk to white is quite a bit higher with a goose egg compared to chicken egg as well.



Goose eggs are lovely! They have almost triple the yolk:albumen ratio of chicken eggs, and are more tender than duck eggs, while being just as rich. The only other eggs I've had, that closely compare, are turkey eggs - but, I think they are both more precious, kept to hatch, because there are so few laid, each year.
 
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Today I read that Costco and Trader Joes are going to limit the amount of eggs folks buy because people are hoarding eggs.

We usually buy a lot because we seldom go to town.  I buy just enough for a month.
 
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Anne Miller wrote:Today I read that Costco and Trader Joes are going to limit the amount of eggs folks buy because people are hoarding eggs.

We usually buy a lot because we seldom go to town.  I buy just enough for a month.



I was thinking something like this may happen. Like my OP mentions, we use at least 10 a day so we would be at the limit pretty quick if they do not take family size into account.

The Dept of Ag says they are projected to go up another 20%.

 
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North of the 49th parallel, we haven't seen much of a change so far. Our system (with its pluses and minuses) keeps supply stable and allows distributed mid-size producers to stay in business. But then we don't get the smokin' discounts when mass over-production kicks in.

We get most of our eggs from a farm family I have known since childhood. Happier chickens, I think, and I sure can tell the flavour compared to store-bought eggs.
 
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I don't follow the retail prices since I got a small flock of chickens. I track everything I can about them on a spreadsheet, and I've recently added a cell that tells me how much I'm paying per dozen eggs. Right now, that's $5.41 but I just bought new pullets that haven't even hatched yet, much less laid eggs, and a bag of feed I haven't opened yet. Adjusted for that, my core flock of adult birds are producing for $4.27 per dozen and still coming down. That's using ready made farm store feed. By growing your own food (If you get the nutrition right) you could produce even cheaper.
 
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I wish they would let some of these places keep the birds alive and see how they do.

The info below is from this article: https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/2/12/2025/bird-flu-4-days

The American Pastured Poultry Producers Association just released a 4-day synopsis of exterminated chickens and it's unnerving.  This is 4 days, folks.

Weekly Disease Update 2/4-2/10

POULTRY CASES

2/4/25: Dauphin Co., PA, Commercial Egg Layer, 1,975,300

           Adams Co., PA, WOAH Non-Poultry, 30

           Mercer Co., OH, Commercial Turkey (x3), 27,300

           Mercer Co., OH, Egg Pullets, 88,300

           Mercer Co., OH, Egg Layers, 96,700

           Darke Co., OH, Commercial Turkey, 5,400

           Queens Co., NY, Live Bird Market, 1,100

           Bronx Co., NY, Live Bird Market, 100

           Newton Co., MO, Commercial Turkey, 13,600

           Lawrence Co., MO, Commercual Turkey Breeder, 14,300

           Jasper Co., MO, Commercial Turkey, 49,500

           Alpena Co., MI, WOAH Non-Poultry, 8

           Worcester Co., MD, Commercial Broiler, 201,600

           Harvey Co., KS, WOAH Non-Poultry, 50

2/5/25: Cumberland Co., PA, Commercial Broiler, 26,400

           Mercer Co., OH, Egg Layers, 174,600

           Mercer Co., OH, Commercial Turkey, 8,900

           Auglaize Co., OH, Commercial Turkey, 11,000

           Queens Co., NY, Live Bird Market, 520

           Kings Co., NY, Live Bird Market, N/a

           Larimer Co., CO, WOAH Non-Poultry, 10

           Stanislaus Co., CA, Commercial Turkey, 30,200

           Pinal Co., AZ, WOAH Non-Poultry, N/A

2/6/25: Lebanon Co., PA, Egg Layers, 86,000

           Lancaster Co., PA, Commercial Duck, 40,000

           Lancaster Co., PA, WOAH Poultry, 14,900

           Mercer Co., OH, Egg Layers, 232,600

           Mercer Co., OH, Commercial Turkey (x2), 30,000

           Darke Co., OH, Egg Layers, 522,200

           Queens Co., NY, Live Bird Market, 200

           Bronx Co., NY, Live Bird Market, n/a

           Newton Co., MO, Commercial Broiler, 44,400

           Lawrence Co., MO, Commercial Turkey, 9,500

           New London, CT, WOAH Non-Poultry, 20

2/7/25: Lebanon Co., PA, Commercial Broiler, 53,500

           Lancaster Co., PA, WOAH Poultry, 610

           Mercer Co., OH, Egg Layers (x2), 485,200

           Mercer Co., OH, Commercial Turkey, 4,100

           Calcasieu Co., LA, WOAH Non-Poultry, 10

 
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bought a dozen Pete and Gerry's' organic eggs for $6.38 today at our local Harps.  
That seemed reasonable by comparison to other egg prices there.
They are rationing two dozen to a customer.

I envy all of you chicken farmers with your discussions about how to store all of your extra eggs

 
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Josh Hoffman wrote:I wish they would let some of these places keep the birds alive and see how they do.

The info below is from this article: https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/2/12/2025/bird-flu-4-days



Might not be enough healthy birds after an outbreak to be worthwhile. Reports I’ve seen of bird flu in Illinois, it sounds like all birds just start dying really fast, one vet says almost 100% fatality rate. We’re seeing that with wild birds here too, a huge number of dead mergansers washed up on the lakeshore.

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/south-suburban-chicago-loses-hens-bird-flu/
 
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